Legal device. Lets get to the news. The white house hers touting their Health Care Bill as a move to the senate, some republicans vowed to start from scratch. Speaker of the house paul ryan says that obamacare is collapsing, that the house bill is about lawmakers their promises. Watch. This is a rescue mission to make sure that we can achieve the goals that we all want. That is getting the cost of coverage down and making sure that everybody has access to a portal for health care, especially and including people with preexisting conditions. That is what the bill does. Mike emanuel joins us now live from capitol hill. Hello. Top white house officials have been out in force trying to talk about Health Care Reform in this country, trying to reassure the American People. And they insist that President Trump will take care of people who have preexisting conditions. Nobody wants folks who have a preexisting illness or injury not to be covered. We want to make certain that we can do it at a lower price and broader choices for patients so that again they are able to see the doctor that they want to see, they are able to go to the hospital that they want to go to. Obamacare give you insurance, but not health care. A lot of folks that were technically insured, they could not afford the premiums or the copay, that is what we have been driving at. Giving people the care that they want, the quality that they need. The affordability that they deserve. Senate majority Mitch Mcconnell has a Health Care Working group made up of leadership. Moderates coming and conservatives all seeing if they can come up with consensus among republicans about the future of health care in this country. Senators are talking about coming up with a whole new fresh approach, but not clear of democrats play a role. I would hope so. It is really important. Obamacare premiums continue to climb. Insurers keep pulling out of markets. I would love to have some cooperation from the democratic party, but so far they have not cooperated at all. Because it is important. Whether it is so blue state or red state, the Insurance Markets are escalating and cost, sometimes imploding. So we would like to get it done this year. If the other side decides not to help, it makes it harder. I just want to work, sit down, get something done. Nobody has asked us. I understand we have 13 republican senators working on revamping the bill. The congressional delegation said, dont worry, the senate will fix it, nobody has asked any democrat. Top House Republicans are saying that they have no problem with this and it writes its own bill, they can go to conference if the Senate Passes something and work out the differences. When you have senators talking about starting from scratch, that suggest that this is going to be a timeconsuming endeavor. Absolutely, thank you very much. Starting from scratch, not what we want to do with most of the recipes in our household with kids. We like to have a mix. The reason this started in the house was because the Supreme Court categorized obamacare as a tax. And the constitution requires that all tax bills originate in the house rather than in the senate. Is that a good thing . For this particular i dont know if it is a good thing or a bad thing, because the senate is going to write its own bill. But both of the bills, the one that the house passed, and the one that the senate probably will pass, in my view it has an unconstitutional premise. That is the view that somehow it is the power of the federal government to micromanage health care, and the obligation of the federal government to make sure that everybody has health care. It has become a right. And the ability to acquire health care, all of those three premises were in obamacare, and they are in the house bill. They will probably be in the senate bill. So the way that some republicans are reacting to this on the senate side, kennedy, if this was nothing likable in the particular bill, are they right or wrong . It is interesting, without the chasm was between from certain members of the Republican Party within the house. But we are going to see quite a divide between the two houses. Between the house and senate, and the senate has been watching the process. They feel like there is so much that the house has gone wrong, particularly failing to secure the votes for the passage. In the first place. So now they look at this, they see that it is deeply, deeply problematic. Nobody wants ownership of the bill, and for them that is a mandate to go back and scrap it. Unfortunately, for those of us who are on the side of liberty and the free market, it does not appear that they are going to be scrapping it and allowing the free market to really get its hands on health care. That is interesting. Because what we had been told by some of the Republican Party was once we get to phase two, you will see that across state market. Thats supposed to be stage three. We have to get through pays 21st. Right, okay . So i want to ask again about what if anything this got through right, because the president was excited about the fact that he was able to get past the hump. It was very uncomfortable on friday with the rose garden media blitz that happen, because i think i confused people that may be dont know that much about the government that this was locked and loaded, done. It was a giant success, and i am very superstitious when it comes to things politically related. It reminded me of George George w. Bush banner behind him. Thats a great comparison. The thing that is happening in congress is going to happen in the senate, adding the extra benefit of democratic hysteria. Its far from over. I was deeply disappointed when i did not go through the first time in congress, but i still have a lot of concern that it is not going to happen. I usually have a democratic question for you, but i want you to turn your head around a neutral reality today. You her to pretend she is dead republican . Just not be a democrat for a second. Because i think it is interesting to seeing what you have amongst democrats right now. Do some more conservative democrats who might be on board with some of what is being talked about potentially in the senate bill. Gets politics are going to hold them back. We saw something similar with the Freedom Caucus members, they got over it, moved on. Now we are seeing the moderates are among republicans in the senate too. What advice would you give republicans at this point . The senate is going to take some time. You heard joe mansion say that if people reached out to us, he is one of the moderate democrats. If people from the republican side reached out to senators coming he would help get a better bill in the senate. What is so interesting to me is that countless experts have come out and said this bill is going to drive up costs and mean less coverage for the elderly, poor, people with preexisting conditions. It seems like the House Republicans in the Trump Administration are betting that all of the experts are wrong. They are saying, just trust us. Because the question is right, how much should government due on health care . The Republican House has kicked that down the road because they see the politics. Now that people have the coverage, hard to take something away. But it seems like the Trump Administration is betting that all of the experts are wrong. That all of the dire predictions just like nancy pelosi did with the original obamacare. That was the big structural mistake that you would think republicans would learn from. Its that sort of opacity, not only bad for the legislation itself it is bad for average americans. And i hate to turn to this, but politically heading into 2018, this is tough. A year and a half away, we are already talking about it. I could not agree with maria moore, she will not like this word, but one of the more insidious things that obamacare did was spread throughout the land, all across the government that the idea that it is governments right to micromanage and governments duty to make health care affordable. Neither of those is in the constitution. Neither of those has been endorsed by the Supreme Court. Those are political reality is, once you give a class of people a benefit from the government, it is almost impossible to take that benefit back without catastrophic political consequences. It is an invasive weed that is designed to fail. It designed to fail to put us on the road to singlepayer pay. One thing that the Obama Administration did was that they tied it to another agency with the irs. What republicans have tried to do, especially paul ryan and his plan, we saw with rand paul as well, take it away from the ira, maybe put it back in the hands of the insurance companies. Difficult to take it away from the people, difficult to take it away from the governmental agency, it will be hard. I want to lay this out and then get your response to it. The president is now adding extra pressure, as if the senators did not feel enough. Republican senators will let the American People down, he said in a tweet. Obamacare premiums and deductibles are way up, it was a lie, it is dead. Thats what kennedy was saying. Can i interject really quick . A really interesting piece where she is talking about her experience with obamacare, she is a person that democrats say do not exist. Her premiums are at 3000. In this piece that she wrote, and for everyone to google it. But she is talking about how it is expected at 3000 a month from the perspective of democrats for somebody like her, affordable. She has two young children, also a widow. I do not speak for her, it is an incredible piece. A lot of stories where we are talking about 2018, republicans have to start putting stories like this, the huge failures of obamacare with people like Mary Catherine. Because there are hundreds of thousands, if not more stories like this. Bye for some reason the media focuses on only the stories of people that will be benefited. But heres a question whether the president can get something out of the senate as quickly as he could out of the house, but the answer is no. The senate is smaller, insurance and claimed to resist, the republicans only have a two vote majority. I dont think that which mcconnell has control the senate the way that paul ryan dated for a while over the house. Really quickly before we move on, i want to talk about the six, Seven Members that are moderates and republicans, you have the one who does not like the medicaid portion coming out ted cruz, rand paul who just want to see a complete repeal, lets start from scratch. Your thoughts. That will force the senate to cobble together a compromise that will either be rejected by the house moderates or the Freedom Caucus, the same clinic small Government People in the house. I expect it will be compromised by that group, then we are back to square one. So the white house, the Republican Leaders doing this just super misleading bragging rights . Or because they really do think that they can make Health Care Less expensive by taking the government out of it . If this does not work, for some reason that fails, that photo ops is going to be branded on the Trump Administration for the entire term. 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This is after a federal judge blocking a key portion of it, calling it unconstitutional based on remarks that the president made during the campaign. Todays hearing is the first of two appeals being heard this month. The threejudge panel on the ninth circuit appeal will hear several claims from the case out of hawaii. Im so glad that you are here, you told me during the break that you or break this down for me. Please explain. We have two judges, one in maryland, one in hawaii, each received a complaint that the revised travel ban was unconstitutional. The one in maryland held the unconstitutional, the one that bans refugees, the one in hawaii held the whole thing unconstitutional. The Justice Department appealed both of these decisions. One of them will be argued this afternoon, the Maryland Court is being appealed to the federal Appeals Court sitting in richmond, virginia. Usually it goes to a panel of three judges. This court decided that every judge on the courts will hear it. This saves the step of going from three judges to the full court. That whole argument is fair, there will be broadcast live at 2 30 eastern this afternoon. Anybody who knows how to find its can listen to it. A week from today, the panel of three judges in the ninth Circuit Court of appeals all of whom were appointed by president bill clinton will be hearing the appeal from the hawaii judge. If these two courts agree whether they say yes or no, what happens to these cases . They go back to the trial courts for the trials. There have been no trials. Just preliminary decisions made by judges based upon documents and oral argument from lawyers, that is a prediction as to how the case will end up. But a real case requires trials and testimony and challenging the testimony. How long can they take . Are we talking like oj time . That is a great question. If the two Appeals Courts disagree, one upholds the band, one stops the band, the Supreme Court will be forced to get involved, because when the courts disagree, you cannot have federal law meaning Different Things in different parts of the country. Is and that what the president once, the travel bans going to the Supreme Court . Yes, but not to trial. If these two trials are held in maryland and hawaii, the results are repealed, and to the Supreme Court, i dont know that it gets the Supreme Court to during Donald Trumps term in office. Thats how long the process will take. I have been reading that you still have some obama appointees along that r far as the judges are concerned. So that starts to complicate things for the president. Lets say that it does get to the u. S. Supreme court, you have a new member with neil gorsuch. I dont know what we know about his past or the configuration of the courts, how do you think the travel ban would do . I do not know the answer. I read during the proceedings, a lot of milk or sisters worth, his opinion on euthanasia, not an opinion on immigration. It did not affect his court, so i do not know which way he will go. What