Its officially christmas. All right, we will move on. President trump meeting with top Congressional Democrats at the white house with the possible partial Government Shutdown looming in the next ten days. If lawmakers do not reach a deal on a spending bill, that could happen. The major sticking point, funding for a border wall. You are watching outnumbered. Im harris faulkner. Here today, melissa francis. Fox news contributor, lisa boothe. Fox news analyst, host of benson harf on fox news radio, marie harf. In the center seat i dont know, does he have an opinion on anything . [laughter] former utah congressman and fox news contributor, Jason Chaffetz is in the house. Merry christmas. Jason you know what i love watching the first lady do that . Those kids have selfie sticks. [laughter] harris there are there the moment melissa i bet their parents did. [laughter] harris glad to have you. Well go to the news. Big news day, as always. We are watching the white house as the president , congresswoman nancy pelosi, and senator Chuck Schumer are set to meet. At the heart of the talks are efforts to fund that border wall system. The president has requested at least 5 billion to pay for that. An idea which democrats have so far rejected. Senate minority leader schumer and House Majority leader pelosi released a statement. Here it is, in part. Our country cannot afford a trump shutdown, the president knows full well that he doesnt have the votes to pass house and senate and should not be an obstacle to a bipartisan agreement. Over this morning, President Trump tweeted in 2006, democrats voted for a while and they were right to do so. Today they no longer want Border Security. They will fight it at all costs, and nancy muscat must get voter speaker but the wall he is alluding to new reporting showing that nancy pelosi may have something on her hands. The roll call is showing at least 15 democrats are holding firm on their opposition to nancy pelosi becoming the next speaker of the house. She can only afford to lose 17 votes. Counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway suggesting that congresswoman pelosi may not be able to risk the political fallout making a deal with the present. Watch it. This president is willing to work across the aisle with leader schumer and with speaker pelosi. She also has a critical decision to make. She does not have the votes to, necessarily, for speaker. Its really tough for her to get them. Why does she promise these democrats in her caucus to becoe speaker . Harris we are hearing that there is video whats going on in the room, we are expected to get there very soon. We will play it as we get it. The optics of doing business with the president. What do you make of it . Jason doesnt bode well for nancy pelosi. This joint statement is fundamentally flawed. They say they dont have the votes in the senate and the house. They have already passed in the house, that 5 billion. So they do have the votes. It does come down to the senate. The president should have probably split those two and talk to schumer and maybe have a different conversation with nancy pelosi. Nevertheless, the president its embarrassing that he hasnt gotten the funding. The government in itself, the two years he has been president , has spent 8 trillion. How did they not come up with a 25 billion . They have already cut it down to 5 billion. Now they trying to cut the 1. 6 billion in half. The president is going to hold tight on this one. Harris if you were a Democrat Voter and you are looking at this situation, with nancy pelosi getting it wrong, as he said, in terms of how many votes are really in the house. If you are looking at that and wondering what the heck it . We voted you in as a check and balance on the president but we still expect you to get something done. By the way, we are inside a twominute warning. I will try to cut down i cannot cut anybody off but i may have to. Marie she has more room. Preaching play hardball more. Thats where donald trump will need votes. The new nbc marist poll, almost six in ten americans say the president should compromise on the wall to avoid shutdown. Harris what does that look like . Marie thats a question. Almost seven nintendo consider building a wall to be an immediate priority for the next congress. The president this is a good if he shuts the government down because of the wall, if they agree to meet somewhere in the middle, it shows that it will hurt him. Harris we will wrap you quickly because we are inside o. We succumb i want to ask you this question republicans couldve helped out the present and they didnt. Lisa thats a good point, they havent. Thats what he should hunker down and put a lot of precious e on congress. He could get funding threats and stress the time a president. We dont know whats going happen in the house, if theyre going to take it back or not. When people harris i have to cut you off. The president met with nancy pelosi and Chuck Schumer about funding a ball. Lets watch together. Thank you very much. Its a great honor to have nancy pelosi with us, and Chuck Schumer with us. We have actually worked very hard on a couple of things that are happening. Criminal justice reform, as you know, we just got word that Mitch Mcconnell and the group would be putting it up for a vote. We have great democrat support, great republican support. Criminal justice reform, something that people have been trying to get how long, nancy . Many, many years. It looks like its going to be passing, hopefully. Famous last words. On a very bipartisan way. Its something we are all very proud of. Again, tremendous support from republicans and tremendous support from democrats. Ethic its going to get a very good vote. We will see soon enough. It will be up for a vote very shortly. A lot of years theyve been waiting for it. The other thing, the farm bill is moving along nicely. I guess they will be voting on friday or so. Pretty close. We think the farm bill isnt very good shape, a lot of good things are happening with it. Our farmers are well taken care of. Again, that will be quite bipartisan. It will happen pretty soon. Then we have the easy one, the wall. That will be the one that will be the easiest of all. What do you think, chuck . Its called funding the government, mr. President. President trump [laughs] we will see what happens. It is not an easy situation, because the president s have a the democrats have a different view. We have great republican support, not grid democrat support. Well see one thing that i do have to say is tremendous amounts of all have already been billed, and a lot of wall when you include the renovation of existing fences and walls, renovated a tremendous amount. We have done a lot of work. In san diego we are building new walls right now, right next to san diego we have completed a major section of wall. It is really working well. A lot of wall has been built. We dont talk about that, but we might as well start because it is being built right now. Big sections of wall. We will start down i could continue that. One way or another, it will get billed. I would like to not see the government close in, the shutdown. We will see what happens over the next short period of time. The wall is a very important thing to us. Border security is extremely important and we have to take care of Border Security. When you look at what happened with the caravans, with the people, we shut it down. We had no choice, we shut it down. It could be a lot easier if we had real Border Security. I just want to pay my respects to the Border Patrol agents and officers, they have been incredible. The i. C. E. Agents and officers have been incredible. Very importantly, our military. The military went in and did an incredible job. They have been really, really spectacular. A lot of the people that wanted to come into the country, they wanted to come in no matter how they wanted to come in they want to come in and a rough way. Many of these people are leaving and going back to their countries. Honduras, guatemala, el salvador, and other countries. They are leaving. You notice its getting a lot less crowded in mexico. A lot of them are going to stay in mexico, and the Mexican Government has been working with us very well. So we appreciate that. But they havent been coming into our country. We cant let people come in that way. Thats pretty much it. We are going to talk about the wall. I wanted to talk about criminal justice reform, just to let you know how positive that is. I want to talk about the farm bill, how positive that is. And i want to talk about the wall. I will tell you, its a tough issue because we are on very opposite sides of i really think i can say Border Security, but certainly, the wall. The wall will get built. A lot of it is built, it will be very effective. I asked for a couple of notes on that. If you look at san diego, illegal traffic dropped 92 once the wall was up. El paso illegal traffic dropped 73 , and ultimately 95 once the wall was up. In tucson, arizona, illegal traffic dropped 92 . Yuma, they dropped illegal traffic 9596 . When i say dropped, the only reason we even have any percentage where people got through is because they walk and go around areas that arent built. It dropped virtually 100 in the areas where the wall is. Its very effective. If you really want to find out how effective you wall is, just ask israel. 99. 9 effective. Our wall will be every bit as good as that, if not better. We have done a lot of work on the wall, a lot of wall is built, a lot of people dont know that. A lot is renovated. We had walls in very bad condition that are now in a one, tiptop shape. Frankly, some wall has been reinforced by the military. Theyve done a fantastic job. They we may not have an agreement today. We probably wont. But we have an agreement on other things that are really good. Nancy, would you like to Say Something . Well, thank you, mr. President. For the opportunity to meet with you so that we can Work Together in a bipartisan way to meet the needs of the American People. I think the American People recognize that we must keep the government open. That a shut down is not worth anything, and that we should not have a shut down. You have the white house, you have the senate, you have the house of representatives, you have President Trump we dont have the votes, nancy. We dont have it in the senate. We need six votes. Excuse me. I cant get it passed in the house if its not grid going ts in the senate. I dont want to waste time. We can start that way. President trump the house we can pass easily. Nbd. The problem is the senate, because we need ten democrats to vote and they wont vote. The point is their equities to be weighed. The fact is, the House Republicans could bring up this bill if they had the votes immediately and set the tone for what you want. President trump we thought we would get it passed in the senate nancy, we would do it mutely. We can get a pastor easily in house. Nancy, i will have it passed in two seconds. It doesnt matter, though, because you cant get it passed in the senate because we need ten democrats vote. Again, let us have our conversation. The fact is, legislating which is what we do you begin to make your point to state your case. Thats what the House Republicans will do. There are no votes in the house, a majority of votes, for a wild. No matter where you President Trump if i needed the votes for the ball in the house, i would have it in one session. It would be done. It wouldnt help because we need ten in the senate. Let me ask you this we are doing this in a very friendly manner. It doesnt help for me to take a vote in the house where i will win easily with the republicans. It doesnt help to take that vote because im not going to get the vote of the senate. I need ten senators. Thats the problem. You have the white house, you have the senate President Trump i have the white house. The white house is done. The house would give me the vote if i wanted it. But i cant because i need nancy, i need ten votes from chuck. Let me Say Something here. Let me say one thing. The fact is, you do not have the votes in the house. President trump nancy, i do. We need board security. Nancy, nancy. We need Border Security. Need Border Security. People are flowing into our country, including terrorists. We have terrorists. We caught ten terrorists over the last for a short period of time. Ten. These are very serious people. Our border agents, all of our law enforcement, has been incredible what theyve done. But we have caught ten terrorists. These are people who are looking to do harm. We need the wall. We need it more than anything. We need Border Security, of which the wall is just a piece. Chuck, did you want to Say Something cuesta mexico heres what i want to say we have a lot of disagreements here. The Washington Post here give you a whole lot of pinocchios because they say you constantly misstate how much of the wall is built and how much is there. But thats not the point. We have a disagree bit about the wall. Whether its effective or not. Not on Border Security, but the wall. We do not want to shut down the government. You were called at 20 times to shut down the government. You said i want to shut down the government. We dont. We want to come to an agreement. If we cant come to an agreement, we have solutions that will pass the house and senate right now. And will not chide the government. Thats what wed want you to do. Not to threaten to shut down the government. Let me finish. Because you cant get your way. Let me Say Something, mr. President. You say my way, or we will shut down the government. We have a proposal with democrats and republicans, that they will support, to do a cr that will not shut down the government. We urge you to take it. President trump and if its not good Border Security, i wont take it. If its not good Border Security, i wont take it. When you look at these numbers of the effectiveness of our Border Security, and when you look at the job that we are doing but you said it is effective. President trump can i tell you something . You just said effective. President trump without a wall these are only areas where you have the wall. When you have walls, chuck, its effective. When you dont have walls, it is not effective. Yes. Lets call a halt to this. We come here as the first branch of government. Article one, the legislative branch. We are coming in in good faith to negotiate with you about how we can keep the government open. President trump we are going to keep it open if we have Border Security. If we dont have Border Security we arent going to keep it open. Im with you. We are going to have Border Security. You are bragging about what has been done. What we want to do, the same thing that we did last year this year. That is our proposal. If its good then, its good now, and it wont shut down the government. President trump chuck, we can big a much bigger section with the money. Lets debate in private. Okay . Its frankly a fax. We need board to secure to come i think we all agree that we need Border Security. We do. President trump see . We get along. Thank you, everybody. You say Border Security and the ball. Can you have Border Security without the wall . President trump you need the wall. The wall is part of Border Security. We need Border Security, the wall is a part of Border Security. You cant have very good Border Security without the wall. Not true. That is a political promise. Border security is a way to effectively honor our the expert so you can do Border Security without a wall, which is wasteful and doesnt solve the problem. President trump it totally solves the problem. Its very this is vital damage, we are at a place to say they have needs. The economy people are losing their jobs, the market is in a move. Our members we have the lowest on deployment weve had in 50 years. People in the Republican Party are losing their offices now because of the transition. People are not resnick nancy, we gained in the senate. Excuse me, did we win the senate . We won the senate. When the president brags that he won north dakota and indiana, hes in real trouble. President trump i did. We did win them. We came in here in good fait faith. We entered into a discussion in the public view. President trump its called transparency. Its not transparency when we are not sticking to a set of facts. When we want to have a debate with you, we confront them. President trump you know what . We need Border Security. Thats what we will be talking about. Border security. If we dont have Border Security, we will shut down the government. This country needs Border Security. The wall as a part of Border Security pray lets have a talk. We are going to get the wall built, and we have got a lot of wall already. Its a big part of it. Its a big part of it. We need to have effective