Reported more than 300 cases of Carbon Monoxide poisoning as people are trying to stay warm in their cars and by other devices. In galveston, the medical Examiners Office requested a refrigerated truck to expand body storage. The power grid breakdown sparking outrage and demands for answers and how texas failed such a massive test of a major point of state pride, energy independence, gas pipes, Wind Turbines frozen, the electric grid was crushed by surging demand, Texas Governor greg abbott demanded a full investigation and is blaming the lefts climate agenda. This shows how the Green New Deal would be a deadly deal for the United States of america, our wind and our solar got shut down and they were collectively more than 10 of our power grid. It just shows that fossil fuel is necessary for the state of texas as well as other states. Harris you watching outnumbered, im harris faulkner. Here today, emily compagno, kennedy, former new mexico Governor Susana Martinez and in the Virtual Center seat on our makebelieve couch until we are all together again, host of one nation and fox news political analyst loris elect lawrence jones. Great to see you, lawrence, i caught your tweets and i hope your family in texas is doing well, you and i share that in common. I just had on whoevers end of a few minutes ago, the reaction to whats happening right now, i want to hear from you just on the Energy Aspect of it, green versus anything else. Lawrence well, as you know, harris, and thank you so much for your comments, my family is making it through, they are all over texas, my entire family is in texas. But i have to start off by being troubled by the governor that was just on the program, we played the spot and although i respect the governor and the leadership there, this has been terrible and its one thing to talk about the Green New Deal and the Energy Policy coming to texas but texas is controlled by all republicans. Every seat when it comes to government for the entire state is run by republicans, i dont understand why they are putting this on the democrats policy. Yes, it is coming to america but as far as texas, i have a lot of questions for the governor, one being, why dont we have reserves . Number two, there was no planning to purchase power at an acceptable rate. Number three, why are we relying on turbines . Again, republicans will this thing and secondly, the electric Reliability Council of texas, the chair, she lives in michigan. Why is she on that board . Government is responsible, they stick their nose in the koolaid of a lot of things but the things they are responsible for, they rarely get right. And although i want to support my state come as you all know, i am a proud texan, that it had to write on my left arm. Harris its really big, we couldnt have you wear it on the show because it wont fit on tv. Lawrence i know [laughs] when you get things wrong, there is accountability. Get the power on. My mom has lupus, she needs the power of. Harris so what you are talking about and we just showed the frozen turbines, they are clearly frozen and not moving but most of texas depends on natural gas and the reserves from what i am reading and i encourage everybody to pick up the Texas Tribune or any of the local reporting outlets they are in dallas and houston and other areas because youll learn a lot, particularly in austin. The lines below ground froze for natural gas, they had not been weatherized. And i asked representative pflueger about this and i also said to others that have interviewed, your reactors, the water was freezing, to keep them safe they put those off line, some of that has come back online today or is expected to. This got really complicated. It was extreme, we get it but are we not able to do all of it at the same time, thats what they ask, can we do it all at the same time so you are not just dumping oil and natural gas and moving to turbines, keep it all, keep all that inventory kind of going, weatherize what you need to until we are really ready to make the switch and i dont know if thats what failed here, im just looking at a lot of frozen stuff and asking a lot of questions. Kennedy . Kennedy that requires foresight and balancing all of the Energy Options that youve got and they clearly didnt do that. So you do need foresight, you need to see that a storm is coming at some point and this isnt just something that should have been cobbled together a few days ago. They really should have had better plan in place, thats the foresight part. The problem is when something happens, instead of taking responsibility and jumping into action, then they blame everybody else and thats incredibly problematic because that doesnt solve the problem. Lawrence is absolutely right about that. Now, what needs to be done is this situation needs to be internalized by several other states who have a much greater reliance on Renewable Energy sources which will be great. Someday they will be fantastic. We are not there yet and when it becomes a case of life and death, you cannot force this process. But, you know, my worry is the lack of foresight is a virus that spreads all throughout all levels of government and they are not going to Pay Attention to this in places like california where there Energy Policy has already been a disaster. Harris wow, emily . Emily looking at this through the legal brought up an investigation and expected lawsuits and it really turns on foreseeability and also what those in decisionmaking positions knew or should have known and the argument here, to provide that birdseye view, the argument is that this was the result of a mix of oversubsidizing wind energy and there wasnt enough Baseload Energy to withstand the massive spike in demand and thats coupled with the texas infrastructure which wasnt designed to withstand or handle all of these freezing temperatures. Youve all touched on the data points, the Wind Turbines froze, the safety sensors of the Nuclear Reactors froze, the batteries drained in the cold so they lost their reserve power, the pipelines in texas for transportation are not insulated so they froze, et cetera. The argument there is think of this for fossil fuels which provided the Baseline Energy we have. What the electric Reliability Council of texas is arguing okay, we lost 16 trigger lots of Renewable Energy but we lost twice that from our thermal sources which include gas and cl and nuclear and they argue the winter grid or its capacity is only 7 wind, 80 of the other thermal sources. So this is the present landscape and moving forward the question remains for texas and especially those in charge, well, what sources of energy can withstand and to be reliable in this extreme weather situation and how can the government stop burdening the decision to go with those energies like overregulation and the like. Harris you are asking questions that i want to go to a governor to now. Governor martinez, i wanted to come to you because i know others on the panel may have questions. So you are going to close us out for us with your breadth of experience, what are they dealing with right now in texas in terms of the hierarchy, Decision Making in all of that . You see Governor Abbott is trying to promise investigations, they just need the lights in the heat to come back on. Governor martinez exactly, that needs to be the absolute number one priority is to make sure that the homes are heated and people are safe and not living in their cars for hours and hours and then sometimes ultimately death. I have two grandbabies living in leander, texas, sitting in front of a fireplace. Off and on their heat goes and number one priority, make sure that that heat is on. Number two priority is to make sure its longlasting because we are going to probably have a second wave of cold. A cold that is unusual in texas. Does it mean you couldnt have foreseen it and prepared for it . I am a strong believer of all of the above, so wind, solar, fuel, natural gas, oil, all of the above. However, it all has to function day together so one cannot carry the load, another one can back it up but we cannot live with a Single Source of energy and expected to be the beall, endall. So with the investigation i do think it is an eventual process that needs to take place but number one is keeping those texans alive and making sure they are warm and that the elderly are taking care of, facilities, hospitals, we have so many large facilities where people there is no heat, then what happens to those individuals . Theres no electricity and none of that going on, what are the risks . Investigation, yes, but that is to come later, i agree with lawrence 100 . Harris you know, governor, im thinking about something that i know to be true about texas, too, they have that one Energy Source and its not capable of buying more electricity from other states. They have a one option, like a top down one option and im sure you would know about this because you are not far away right in new mexico from having seen a state that operates that way, whats your thought . Well, we certainly have. Oil and gas in new mexico is very vague, for a state that the population is 2. 1 million. However, we also have solar and wind energy. All of the above is something that we support. However, there is such an investment in green energy and Renewable Energy that unfortunately i think there is into the constant support systems and upgrades that are necessary for fuel and gas energy, natural gas being a clean energy, lets not pretend its not, it is a clean energy and so i believe strongly that all of the above maintains our ability to have National Security and of course taking care of all people who live in america. Harris governor Susanna Martinez of new mexico, thank you very much. We are going to take a quick break, we will be right back. An homeowners. With home values high and Mortgage Rates at all time lows. Great news for veterans who need money for their family. Thats me. Refiplus from newday usa lets you refinance at record low rates plus get an average of 50,000. Thats me. Thats money for security today or retirement tomorrow. Thats me. Refiplus. Harris we break and now with breaking news as we learn that longtime conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh has died. He announced his diagnosis on his show last february and in october he announced that attempts to treat the cancer were no longer working. He is of course most famous for his longrunning radio show the Rush Limbaugh show which has been on the air nationwide since 1988. Hes also written seven books, hosted a Television Show in the 1990s. Rush limbaugh was 70 years old. Our Trace Gallagher has a closer look at his life and career. I think people listen to the radio for three reasons. Be entertained, be entertained, be entertained. And avid listeners were wildly entertained. His daily program, i heard by an estimated 20 million listeners each day and broadcast over 650 affiliates made in one of the most wellknown voices for grassroots conservatives and the target of criticism by the left. But long before he was a household name, calling himself rusty sharp he played records on local radio in missouri. A college dropout, he moved to larger markets but struggled to find acceptance for his onair political commentary. That all changed in 1987 when the fcc repealed a law requiring equal airtime for opposing political views. That allowed stations to legally share his perspective without offering another opinion, limbaugh was soon broadcasting nationwide. Limbaughs syndicated radio show became one of the most highly rated programs in the country, though sharing limbaughs conservative views were affectionately called dittoheads. He would soon go everyday entertainer to a Formidable Force in american politics. Im dangerous because i am right and im having a good time being right. His huge success on radio lead to a tv show and seven books, first titled the way things ought to be. In 2,001, limbaugh chuck listeners, telling them he was almost to death. I think the right side hearing aid outcome i do not hear single thing. You know i have always tried to be honest with you. Limbaugh admitted he was addicted to painkillers which he was taking for back pain. Immediately following this broadcast i will check myself into a Treatment Center for the next 30 days. Limbaugh was later charged with prescription fraud but made a deal with prosecutors that spared him a trial. He attracted attention not for what he said with the way he looked, losing 90 pounds in less than six months. In february 2020, he revealed that he was in was fighting advanced lung cancer. Trying to do this without anybody knowing because i dont like making things about me. There are going to be days that im not going to be able to be here. Limbaugh publicly said he started smoking cigarettes as a teenager but said he quit by the early 80s. He was often photographed smoking a cigar and even questioned the link between smoking and cancer. They say, one puff from one cigarette can kill you. If this is true they should make a scary movie out of this. Limbaugh never had children but was married four times. Perhaps his greatest lifelong love was radio. A longtime personal friend of president trumps, there was this state of the union first. I am proud to announce tonight that you will be receiving our countrys highest civilian honor, the president ial medal of freedom. The president acknowledging the radio host for inspiring millions of people a day. Im grateful for everything, there is so much to be thankful for especially when, right in front of you is the prospect of it being taken away and it just tamps up the appreciation for all of the goodness that you have in your life. One thing both tractors and dittoheads can agree on, Rush Limbaugh, the man who once claimed to have talent on loan from god, changed broadcasting in america forever. Trace gallagher, fox news. Harris the news of Rush Limbaugh, of course, is something weve been following in recent days, we knew hed been off the air for at least a week. Rush limbaugh, as you know, shared his journey as much as he wanted to and is much as he felt he needed to along the way and when his voice went away from the airwaves, we were hopeful as a nation that he would come back. He was in the beginning of the nonacceptance of the council culture, he was really a believer and first amendment, over anything that might be canceled. As long as it was true. In my early 20s, i met Rush Limbaugh at a Kansas City Chiefs football game. We were in a tailgate tent together and i sat between Rush Limbaugh and baseball legend george brett of the Kansas City Royals. And as i sat there, we talked about a lot of sports, obviously, we were at a chiefs game but i noticed a couple things about Rush Limbaugh, the broadcaster. He was really proud of what he did because it was about truthtelling. He was also a very inquisitive person, generous of spirit and i sat there and he said, i want to listen to you as i ask a couple questions because i want to know what kind of journalist are going to be. He said i hope you will continue to listen to people and you will always tell the truth. That will make you very valuable in the world of broadcasting. In the then he and george brett had some really fun funny things to say about baseball and all sorts of other things and he was a great keeper of sports as well as politics in terms of his conversation. Rush limbaugh was born in missouri, this conversation at Arrowhead Stadium all those years ago in the 90s with me was in kansas city, missouri, but he was born in Cape Girardeau and the state took pride in Rush Limbaugh because he stayed there, he came back. His heart was there. The Rush Limbaugh show was not the only thing that he did. He wrote books, bestsellers, in fact and his conservative voice was something he wanted people to hear about and read about on all different platforms because you never know where you might reach someone. Maybe his first book titles would tell us that, the way things ought to be. See, i told you so. He wanted to be that person to tell you what was going on and he wanted to draw the line very brightly between what you might think is happening based on people who are not honest with you versus the way that he saw that it needed to be told. Not always pretty, not always comfortable, people may try to, and of course we have the lingo today, cancel culture. We didnt back then necessarily but dont let people try to quiet you. Invite them to the debate. And so thats how he was. And thats how he will be remembered. You see the former first lady there in this video putting on the president ial medal of freedom, the highest civilian honor, the president there as he awarded that, as of the 2020 state of the Union Address. And the National Association of Broadcasters Hall of fame, the National Radio hall of fame, both entities that recognize the skill, the talent, t