Back to you, tom. Thank you, andy. Lets welcome our guests. Her wit is so sharp she has to check it when she flies. Host of kennedy on the fox business network, kennedy. He thinks hillary is hotter than the sauce she carries in her purse. Former aide to chuck schumer, christopher hann. He doesnt work construction, but for some reason he knows how to pour cement. Robert davie. And he has the facial hair that says get in my van. Next to me, comedian joe materis. Lets start the show. Demonstrations against the Police Continue across the country. David brown has a message for the protesters. Join us and become part of the solution. At a press conference on monday, brown talked about how he left college to join the force after seeing his friends back home get caught up in the crack epidemic of the 80s. And he encouraged people who were angry about Police Killing black men to do the same. Become a part of the solution. Serve. Serve your community. Dont be part of the problem. Were hiring. Were hiring. Get out there get off the protest line and put an application in of the well put you in your neighborhood and we will help you resolve some of the problems you are protesting about. Chief brown also had a message for lawmakers. Police cant solve every problem in society. Things like drug addiction, Mental Health issues and failing schools and they shouldnt be asked to. We are asking cops to do too much in this country. We are. We are asking us to do too much. Every societal failure we put it off on the cops to solve. Thats too much to ask. Policing was never meant to solve all of those problems. I just ask for other parts of our democracy along with the free press to help us. Help us and not put that burden all on Law Enforcement to resolve. Help us. Kennedy, i love this message. Are we asking too much of police . I think we are, absolutely. You look at a city like new york where cops are now when they engage with people, they are supposed to ask them about their mental state. They really have turned into sidewalk psychologists. Not to mention having to tackle terrorism and rising homicide rates and Everything Else that happens in a big city. He did such a great job of humanizing Law Enforcement right now. It is you know, my brother was a cop for a longtime and uncle was a cop for a longtime, and a lot of us have family members in Law Enforcement and it is such a hard job to do right now. My heart goes out to him. The way he talked about hugging a Police Officer every hour and how this was the hardest thing he has ever had to do in his life, and how he had to take a moment and really con tech actual contexualize and process the funerals and how he would take time off, i was moved by his humanity and how real he was and the case he made for cops today. It is so true. What is it . What did he do differently . I am generally procop. When i hear the cops talk, i buy what they are saying. What was it about this speech that kind of it seemed to resonate with everybody. He is clearly a man in pain. He lost seven four of his colleagues and others are hurt. The citys in pain. He has to hold it together for everyone and he is doing a good job. He is a role model for anyone dealing with a crisis across america of the i agree. People should join the police force if they want to change it. Thats part of the problem. There is a bigger stigma that has to be worked out about the roles of africanamericans in our community and how they are perceived by people, even blocks themselves. Even blacks themselves. What he says makes sense and it is a great first step and i applaud this guy. He is a model. Every police chief in america should look at him as a role model. Thats it. Come on, is this going to, you know, is it going to resonate . Is it going to last . It is needed to last. It needs to resonate. The president should have given a speech similar to this in terms of the appreciation for Law Enforcement instead of going into poe lit sizing the second amendment. It is crucial the communities engage with the Police Department in a humanistic way. Yes, it is terrible what happened in some instances. As someone said on another show, if you looked at the surgeons, i think it was ben carson, there are bad surgeons out there, but how many have saved lives . Irrespective of that, i did this thing in 1992 where i did saville civilian patrol. I wanted to engage the populous into helping the communities as a direct conduit to Law Enforcement because i fore saw with terrorism with the drugs on the streets and with the rampant disrespect for Law Enforcement and communities that was happening that we needed a different kind of organization which is a more extended neighborhood watch. It would help this Police Officer incorporate and have people. When he said i want you to join us instead of sit back and criticize us. Thats a crucial statement and a step in terms of something i think we need a national program. Thats it. You make a great point. When you go to the local communities people say we like our local police force. But as a national issue, it seems like obviously urban communities dont trust the police at all. Am i right, joe . Our one urbanite on the panel. Come on, speaking for the the guy from west chester. Im saying we have this National Conversation now, and it to me is very anticop anticop. Sure. One of my best friends is an excop. I have been friends with him since, jeez, before 9 11. I can remember back when the whole rodney king thing went down. Being with him and being driving through the streets you know, we were comedians, but he was an excop and i can remember we were in right over the 59th street bridge in new york and right into queens. It was a really bad area. There was just like hookers walking the streets. I used to live in queens. You were not feeling groovy. Those were hookers . Those were hookers. I thought they were friendly neighbors. I can remember arrests being made and the people being arrested would be yelling in pain when there was no pain happening. I dont think like soccer floppers . Yeah, kind of like that. My friend was a cop and he would say he would like you know, im watching this if you need me in this. Picking that up for a second, the same thing happens with smokers and nonsmokers. You can walk on the street i have seen this. A guy will have an unlit cigarette and the nonsmoker will start to curse at them because they think they are smoking. They do the cough and they think they are smoking. Because society is the way it is today, this is what is happening to Law Enforcement. There will be a super sense saw tiesed population that is looking for stuff that will hurt and hinder Law Enforcement instead of respect them. Are the p coulds are the cops the smokers or the nonsmokers . The smokers are look, there are issues, b blow it out of proportion. Here, now it is time for former new york city mayor Rudolph Guiliani made several appearances on television recently and in every one he said roughly the same thing. Here is guiliani on fox and friends. I believe i saved a lot more black lives than black lives matter. I dont see what black lives matter is doing for blacks other than isolating them. All it cares about is the Police Shooting of blacks. It doesnt care about the 90 of blacks that are killed by other blacks. Thats a simple fact. He added specifics noting he took over the city with 1,924 murders per year. And, quote, gave it to mayor bloomburg with 500 plus murders. Thats a lot less murder. He also defended his belief that the phrase black lives matter is inherently racist. It is inherently racist because number one it divides us. All lives matter. Number two, black lives matter never protest when every 14 hours somebody is killed in chicago probably 70, 80 of the time a black person. Where are they then . The press did not want to hear it. Huffington post called him shameful and said the mayor goes off on racist tangents against blacks to help the police. Some said Rudy Guiliani thinks he is a black messiah. Questioning his legitimacy to speak on the matter at all. No really, who invited guiliani and begging us to, quote, let this man slip back into the obscurity he so richly deserves. Why . He is a former u. S. Attorney who spent a lifetime fighting crime. As mayor, the numbers show he probably saved thousands and thousands of black lives. All across the media almost no one was willing to discuss the merits of what guiliani said. Instead a multiple choice question was posed. Was guiliani, a, a racist, b, insensitive or c, out of touch. Obviously the answer is none of the above. Christopher, you are probably going to tell me why guiliani was wrong about what he said. I dont want you to tell me that. I want you to tell me why it was controversial. Why are there 10,000 articleses about how shameful guiliani is. I think he is missing the nuance. Not everything he said is wrong. A lot of it misses the nuance of what the black lives Matter Movement is. It is not about ending all violence in all communities. It is about the way Police Interact with africanamericans in the country. And the feeling that many blacks have across america that they are treated unfairly. He misses that nuance. He looks at it as a racial moment. Just because you say black lives matter doesnt believe you dont believe all lives matter. I think all lives matter and i think the black lives Matter Movement is trying to do something positive. 99. 9 are good, hardworking people who are not into violence and disrupting communities. Obviously that happens in any protest Movement People get involved that shouldnt be. He is missing the nuance. Thats the problem with guiliani. Guiliani should know better. He ran a big city, and i think ran it well. He ran it well. Hahn thinks he is missing the knew yawns, but why nuance, but why is that controversial . Why write an article about how ridiculous guiliani is if he is giving his opinion on fighting crime. Bill said the same thing chris is saying. Black lives matter for a lot of people is not about racism. It is about perception and the way they feel they are perceived. The whole hash tag sprung from the idea that black lives dont matter and it was a way of negating that. Unfortunately it has turned into a group of people, a collective, shouting anyone down that disagrees with that. When you are Martin Omalley or Bernie Sanders and you say all lives matter which is ultimately where we are supposed to go as human beings, isnt it . Isnt that the point of ending racism so there is true equality . If there is true equality, then yes, all lives matter. We are equal under the law. We should be equal if we get to a place of true saville tee where we can talk about things without looking at each others skin tone. I thought that was the point of Martin Luther kings existence. When you say all lives matter is somehow racist, that to me is what is offensive. I dont find black lives matter to be inherently racist. Do you think it is controversial that guiliani does and he should be shouted down because thats his opinion . No. I think he was saying the facts that he mentions all of the statistics and all of the things that happened. Lets face it. If im going to speak complete truth right now do it im gonna say it. Say it it is hard for a white person to say anything like that. It is really hard for us. We are not allowed to speak about something that as soon as we say i am a stand up comedian and if i say black i can feel the crowd go they dont know where is that your opening line . Black . Is that the first thing you say . No, guiliani was basically touching on something that it does sound like the old guy shaking his fist at the world, and thats why he is being treated like that. But, robert, he has a track record. He is saying that his kind of policing which black lives matter is opposed to, because they will tell you that they dont want guilianistyle policing. He says it does save lives. I am better than them. Thats what he is saying. You know, again, this is a volatile issue. I dont like the decisiveness in our country and i havent seen it like this since the 60s and we have a black president. There is a reason why we have the divides and it is inflammatory. Guiliani is an italian american. There were more lynchings of italians in america than blacks in one particular day in new orleans of 12 saw sill yens. The police chief was killed and they blamed it on the saw sill yens. Since the turn of the century the New York Times said the italians are dirtier and lower tean the negro. This was a 1906 article from the New York Times based on that lynching happening. The italianamerican immigrant understood that the police because we had a lot of things our social clubs were checked. I went before a grand jury and we were looked at at a certain way. We are sensitive to that and sensitive to how a black person is perceived by Law Enforcement sometimes. And just by society, and there is a thing. Sometimes if a black man is walking behind them they are worried at night. Jesse jackson said it at one point. I want to move on. This is a complex issue that takes it has so many nuances. The National Dialogue should be one of unity. It should be like this panel right here. I agree. It is like a beniton ad. Dallas police used a robot to blow up the gunman who killed five Police Officers which is apparently the first time the tactic has been used. It set off a debate about the increasing militarization of the police and the remote controlled use that was used of lethal force. A former counterterrorism fill told the New York Times the further we remove the officer from force and the consequences that come with it, the easier it is to use that tactic. It is what we have done with drones in warfare. In warfare your object is to kill. Law enforcement has a different mission many say the use was justified. Here is the mayor of dallas. It was a difficult decision because the safety of our Police Officers were in our mind. We had just lost so many and we had had those shot. We ask him do you want to come out safely, or do you want to stay there and we are going to take you down . He chose the latter. The gunman killed five Police Officers and they were going to kill him. Thats how it was going to end. Why does it matter how it was done . I think it was a chaotic situation, and i am not going to monday morning quarterback what what happened. Having worked with Law Enforcement in my career when i was working with government, it is a stressful situation. I think the way the Dallas Police handled the situation was tremendously brave not just with that sniper, but the way they handled the crowds. It could have been a far more critical situation. They deserve recognition for that. Am i a little concerned about robots being used to kill people in america . I am concerned about drones killing people. We need to get rid of in foreign countries. Thank the president for that. I think thats a story and thats where i partways with the president. I think thats a conversation to have another day and we shouldnt second guess what happened in that situation. It could have been far worse. I want that conversation today, kennedy. Thats why we are here. Absolutely. Are you uncomfortable with robots killing people . I am uncomfortable with robots killing people. As a libertarian i am uncomfortable with drones killing people. There is a necessary element you remove and i dont want it to be easier for the state to kill people. In this instance though, i hope it is like the atom bomb. It is something we do once, maybe twice, and then never employ again. And then people talk about Nuclear Energy and Hydrogen Bombs and all of that and how it will change the earth as we know. It but it has also been a deterrent. I hope we never get in a situation again, and maybe thats incredibly naive, where we have to deploy Something Like this. In that case it was justified because there was another guy who had explosives and he was coming after more officers. I understand that. The consequences of Something Like this in the future application, thats what worries me and thats what we have to have a discussion about. We need protocols for application. We learn something from every one of these events. We is have 30 seconds. A system has to be put in place. If god forbid somebody was sniperring 12 black people, just picking off black people. Law enforcement didnt send in the robot and needed to send it in, what would they say to Law Enforcement about that . You had this robot that could have saved lives. You have a situation and we are going to have bad characters increase in this country and not less. I think it is a deterrent for the bad guys to say, you know what . Here is what could happen. It has to be used judiciously. You like robots . I want all robots. I want a full robot. Like row like robo cop. Yes, i have no problem with that. He said they are hiring and i will take the job. I am coming to dallas if you can give me a full robocop uniform. Peter weller. He wants to step up. It is time for a break. When we come back, a story involving bulbascores and jiggly puffs. Dont miss it. The red eye pod cast is back. Subscribe on fox news. Com. Live from americas news headquarters, im robert gray. President obama will be in dallas later today to honor the five Police Officers killed during last weeks protest against Police Shootings. The president will speak at an inter faith memorial. He w