Of an american journalist named Steven Sotloff. According to an Intelligence Group which tracks terrorists. The organization reports the Islamic State released another video, one very similar to the one that showed the beheading of american james foley. This new video shows a masked terrorist, knife in handstanding next to Steven Sotloff and ends with a gruesome shot of sotloffs body. The terrorist with a british accent claims to be the same militant from the james foley video. In that video they threatened to kill sotloff if the United States did not stop attacking Islamic State targets in iraq. U. S. Officials air strikes against militants in iraq have week. Last week Steven Sotloffs mother pleaded with the leader of the Islamic State to free her son. Steven has no control over the actions of the u. S. Government. He is an innocent journalist. A spokesman for his family is saying now that the family is aware of the video, to please give them peace while they grieve. Sotloff was a free lance journalist who worked over9e and says it is the u. S. Foreign policy which is to blame for sotloffs death, which is clearly not the case, shep. And, catherine in the end of the video there is a threat at least to someone else. Well, its clearly implied at the end of the video the individual believed to be sotloff makes a statement, then the executioner makes his statement, and then they show what i would call the initial stages of the beheadings. They cut away and then show the completed act, then it goes to black and comes back again with another individual who is kneeling on the ground in the orange jump suit, and this has been widely identified as a british hostage, and the executioner doesnt say, he is next, but he says, this is a warning to all nations who should join any coalition with the United States. So the selection of a british hostage as the next one who is their target does not seem to be any accident, shep. Catherine herridge. Thank you. Of course, they do have the hat hostage wind chill dough meant to how many more hostages they have. We know the British Parliament is about to consider new rules regarding these terrorists and well get to that with a couple of experts. First i want to turn to math view van dyke, a friend of see ven sotloff and james foley. Im sorry. I dont know how youre dealing with this. These guys were tight friends of yours. Yeah, yeah, i lost two friends in two weeks. How too you make sense of this . These guys were there to do just one thing and that was tell a series of stories bat people who were being really ripped apart. Just vjc journalists doing tr jobs, reporting, they knew the risks but kept going back. The story needed to be told now. They paid for it with their lives. Steven sotloffs story is knew to many of our viewers because for many months, at the familys request, there no talking. The hope was to get him freed before anything bad happened. In a lot of these cases the families choose to keep it secret. That a replies applies to otr hostages. We believe there are maintenance as 20 being held and theres a possible that isis buys them. Some of them are kidnapped by other groups and then sold to isis, some directly kidnapped by isis, but there are definitely other hostages and more americans held hostage as well. Was there any kind of communication we know with some hostages there was a ransom paid by other countries. Were there demands for ransom. Im not sure in this case. It sounds as if i mean, as as unthinkable, they wanted to use these guys for these reasons, and analysts were suggesting the other day that maybe they were killed on the same day. They could be in the case of isis, they have a variety of sources of funding. Theyre not a group that relies on ransom demand so they have a more diversified economy than the region, extortion, taxes, and in their case, ransom wasnt the highest priority. One other item. See stensotloff had hear on his head and in this video he does not. Whether it suggests it was done at another time or whatever. We do know the british are now talking about putting more sanctions into player, making it more difficult for terrorists to move about. Day after labor day for us, this group with media and social media is as good as anything we have ever seen. They are. Its a whole different animal. They since they have taken terrorism to a whole new level, but eventually well win and stop them. How is his family . Im sure theyre devastated. I talked to his sister recently but not since the news came out. I think its better to give. The space. I wondered with the video mrs. Sotloff put out before the holiday, it was difficult to watch a mom have to go through that and you wonder if anything like that would make any impression on anybody. Not for these guys. These are heartless individuals. Theyve done a campaign of cruelty, not just against foreigners but against the people under their reign. Nothing can dissuade them unfortunately. What was sotloffs passion . He loved journalism, loved the region, his real passion was the people. He was good at arabic, spent time living in libya. Somebody that connect with the people of the region. When he was in aleppo he was trying toyef÷ still the center f this conflict and how it was affecting everyday people. Yes, and he had done it before. He had been to syria before and libya, and he was very good. A real professional. Really bright career ahead of him. Any contact of any kind all along the way . Not since he went missing itch had dinner with him in d. C. A few weeks before he went to syria. We talked about the security situation but he just vanished and ahead about it from syrian contacts. If theyve shut down journalism we wont know what is happening and then were in real trouble. Are your friends who travel these regions still out there and doing good work, or has this put the fear into folks, where they really wont take the chance. Unfortunately,ess, lot of journalists have stopped going. Media organizations have stopped sending people, free lancers are afraid to go. It has put a lot of squeeze on the press, a lot of them just wont ghoneim, and i dont blame them at all. It wasnt that long ago this sort of thing didnt happen, there were unwritten rules. Not that they havent happened throughout history, but in this other things over the past few years, this wasnt happening. Isis doesnt play by any rules. Isis kidnapped women and sold them as slaves, beheads people routinely, crucifies people that they disagree with. This is an organization with no limits and they need to be stopped. Youre doing something that would be hard for a lot of people to do and that is going out on a regular basis to just about anybody who will listen and talk about your friends and what theyve been through. Why are you doing that . I want the memory to be reserved, their legacy to be preserved. They shouldnt be forgotten. The only reason we know anything had is happening in syria is because of people like james and steven, and people need to know what they fav their lives for. Matthew van dyke, thank you for coming. Well have continuing coverage just ahead of this killing witch former ambassador bill richardsonson, richardson, ad more information on ukraine, and Michael Ohanlon will join us to talk about if we, for instance, increase our military campaign against isis, how does that affect isis . And its able to recruit and spread across that region . And if we dont, what then . Bill richardson, Michael Ohanlon. The president live as it happens. All ahead on Shepard Smith reporting. Important legal matters in just minutes. Now its quicker and easier for you to start your business, protect your family, and launch your dreams. At legalzoom. Com we put the law on your side. Continuing coverage of fox top story this hour and the apparent execution of another american journalist, Steven Sotloff, but an Islamic State militant. Bill richardson, a form u. S. Ambassador to the United Nations and is live. Mr. Ambassador, thank you. We know when they put out these videos and create a direct confrontation with the United States, it helps them with recruiting and helps them do what we dont want them to do. So what is the United States to do now . Well, it may help them recruit but i tell you what its also doing. The International Community and the United States has not seen this level of barbarism. Its going to unite the American People and the congress into a very, very strong response against them. What should the u. S. Do . I would say what we need is a kitchen sink approach against isis. Now, i think we have to be smart about it. We have to have military response, airstrikes. We also need diplomatic initiatives, need to build a coalition. The good news is theres a lot of countries against isis, everything from iran to hezbollah to the saudis to the United Arab Emirates to iraq. So, i think its Fertile Ground to build a strong coalition. We need better intelligence on the kurdish situation, on the affects there, but i think this is going to backfire on these people, shep. I know its horrible, and i think our first thought has to be with these families of these journalists, and the journalism industry and their profession, respect for what they do. Mr. Ambassador, we have been told by our leaders repeatedly, and analysts agree, theres no way to stop this group except by boots on the ground. g the president said those will not be american boots. Where do we locate boots . Among the coalition i cant imagine boots from iran or saudi arabia certainly. I cant imagine them from iraq. The United Arab Emirates, i dont know how many boots are available there we have been told you cant stop them without boots. Where do we get them . Well, i think our military is the best at targeted airstrikes. But the president said that we will not have boots on the ground, and every analyst said and members of the military, leaders said we cant stop them without boots on the ground. I think we need the best intelligence possible. Youre saying there are no boots available outside of ours. I think there would be. I think this international coalition, the president is heading there would that include our boots . No. I think the president has made this clear. I dont think the American People would sustain that. But at the same time, shep, i think you will see increasing support for training, for airstrikes, for all kinds of weapons but were told we cant stop them without boots on the ground. I know theres not an answer here and thats part of the point. If the military leaders say this group cannot be stopped without boots on the ground, yet there are no boots thon ground to stop them, that means theyre not going to stop. We can strike them from the air as much as we want. May slow them or stop their forward progress but will not take back the land they have taken. Thats not a consensus among our military leaders. Id like to hear what the joint chiefs say, too pentagon is saying there are a lot of retired guys who i respect, but at the same time i think, shep, we have to be smart about how we go after these guys. Its not just military. Its diplomatic, its sanctions, its building a coalition of the willing, and this may be getting assistance from countries and movements that we dont like, but these people are a threat, but i tell you, this video, i think its going to backfire on them. Its going to show their brutality, going to show the world that this is an International Community that has to unite against Something Like this, and dont underestimate public opinion, the horror of what happened. Nobody is underestimating that. I realize we have an idea but not one for reporting about how many hostages this group may have. And its not a tiny number, mr. Ambassador, and i wonder how many more theyre going to be able to parade out and cut heads off before eventually we come to a collective discussion that includes we cant stop this Group Without boots on the ground, and if we get drawn into another conflict in the middle east, how the hell are we going to get out . Were in a bet of a predicament. Is that fair . Yes, thats fair. This is why we need a National Debate here. We got to put all this partisanship aside. The president and the congress, republicans, democrats, there has to be a National Debate. We have to confront isis. How we do it, with what means, with what resources, and i think the coffin for these people that think theyre going to maybe recruit some individuals, but the loss theyre going to have, and International Public opinion, look at the unite nations. Theyre going out there. Theyre going to be focusing on the brutality of this regime. Theyve got a very, very loud, loud speaker, the u. N. , and the u. N. Is listening. They dont have boots available. Lets have this debate. Boots, how many, what do you want to say . I dont have any clue. But when you hear, were not going to put boots on the ground, cant find the availability boots and these people cant be stopped without boots on the ground and they keep cutting peoples heads off, thats concerning, and you wonder how long we can sustain this. All im saying is lets have a debate on that. Im all about that. Getting congress to debate much of anything, mr. Ambassador. I cant imagine a situation under which that happens. Can you really . They would actually come together and do something . I think youre going to see an emboldened congress and a president coming together on an issue like this. I think this is a 9 11 moment where the country comes together. All right. Ambassador bill richardson, auld always good to see you. Not the end of this, we need to get some big picture analysis of this so ahead, on the killing of Steven Sotloff and the fight against these islamic militants, what could work . You have to have abouts . We dont have boots. What do we do . 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You can debate whether we should have publicly announced that but it would be hard to save these individuals. So i think we have to recommit ourselves to destroying the Islamic State. And i think the reason you do this is not in ven venges for one or two dade americans, as tragic as the deaths are, because this group is a threat to our regional allies and americans in the mideast. Theyre not debatable. This group attacked iraqi kurdistan. Its nonevent an arab group or part of the middle east. They want to control it if they could that tells us they wont this broader Islamic State, caliphate, as their name suggests and that means they want to attack not only other parts of iraq, kurdistan, but jordan, and wherever else, ultimately saudi arabia, maybe europe. Im not suggesting theyll be able to do that but thats where their amibitions take them. Now we have the question do we want to provoke hem to make can more directly and immediately against us by upping our role, or by risking american combat deaths in iraq again. I heard you talking about boots on the ground. Here i think we do need to help because theres no way that isis is going to be defeated by the iraqi army in its current form. But i dont think we should replace the iraqi army. The question is what do we need to do to rebuild, reconstitute, and reenergize that iraqi army that American Military expertise can really help with, and then what is the corresponding strategy for syria, and finally, i think that to help that iraqi army rebuild, we may need to put some mentor teams into the field if and when circumstances allow, and so i think we could envision up to several thousand americans ultimately back in iraq, but not doing major combat operations and not deployed as major combat units, simply, is going to be possible to get arab nations into a forgive me for saying it coalition of the willing . I think it