The g. O. P. Blueprint is being posted this evening. Separate components from house ways and means and energy and commerce working in conjunction, and g. O. P. Leaders say its time to deliver. Americans need relief. They deserve a new direction. Thats why we are taking action to repeal and replace obamacare with Health Care Solutions that can actually work for the American People. Hhs secretary tom price and budget director Mick Mulvaney are expected to have dinner with President Trump to review the proposal with Mick Mulvaney is a Founding Member of the House Freedom caucusing is critical to winning over the conservative wing. The ways and means proposal calls for dismantling obamacare taxes and mandates. Expanding Health Savings accounts, and providing a monthly tax credits of people who dont receive insurance through work. I the president s goal is to give people choices, let them purchase the kind of insurance they want for themselves and their families. Not what washington forces them to buy. This is an important distinction between where we are right now and the individual and smallgroup market and where want to go. Energy and commerce plan calls for a patient and state stability fund. Unwinding obamacare is Medicaid Expansion and strengthening medicaid. Some of the discomfort of come from the tax credit concept. Theres a divide between a conservative camp within the caucusing we feel uncomfortable at this point with the idea of a refundable tax credit. Other folks for saying this is a way of funding a Health Savings account that would be applicable to everybody. Republican senator Susan Collins has warned republicans are not unified. Theres not a consensus. Its very complicated, and we shouldnt rush it. We need to get this right. The gops plan was under attack before it was released from the Top Democrats grades because they dont want folks to see it until the very last minute. Just russia through. I dont blame them. Its going to be very hard for republicans to be proud of the plan. Lawmakers are getting a look at the blueprint. The committees are expected to work on the package later this week. Bret special report exclusive. We go behind the scenes to see how republican lawmakers will manage the legislation through the often byzantine approval process, and well talk specifics. Joining me is house ways and Means Committee chairman kevin brady and from capitol hill, house energy and commerce Committee Chairman greg walton. Chairman, thank you for joining me. Lets start and break it out. There are two committees dealing with two parts of the legislation. Chairman brady, let me start with you and ways and means. I guess the tax part of the equation. Its been seven years since obamacare was passed into law. It is collapsing. It has heard more people that its helped. We deliver on President Trumps promise to repeal and Begin Replacing it with two big principles. Restore state control of health care and get it out of washington. Restore the free market. Give individuals the power and freedom to choose plants that are right for them. The second part is in the ways and means area. We begin by repealing the awful taxes of the mandate penalties and the subsidies and obamacare. And to give americans the freedom to buy plans they need that includes nearly doubling the size of the Health Savings accounts and make them more usable. We give them a tax credit immediately usable. It ranges in price from 2,000 to 14,000 a year, depending on their age and family and with that, they can buy affordable plans that are approved and certified in the state they are in. These plans they need and can use, not the plans washington spent dictating to them. Bret how is this not obamacare light from your perspective . It is obamacare gone because repeal those taxes, the mandates, subsidies. There is nothing left. Instead, we give them the same tax break we give workers at big businesses. We give that same tax help to Small Business people. The mom and pop businesses, workers at Small Businesses, even entrepreneurs and families in between jobs, the ability to buy a plan that is right for them and i think maybe most important and we are giving americans the freedom who havent got health care at work and they dont have a government program, freedom like theyve never had before to buy health care that is right for them. This is clearly obamacare gone and new freedom. Bret last thing on this, are they tax credits means tested . We focused, we want to make sure that as you get older, your Health Care Premium increases, your tax credit increases. As your family expands, we wanted to expand with you. We focused it on the low and middle income families who dont get health care at work break this is important whether you are young person just leaving school and your Parents Health care. Whether you are a Small Business person struggling to make ends meet or you are a retiree whose work to her life and theres a few years left before medicare, this fits what americans need. Bret chairman walton, you are dealing with the energy and commerce legislation. Medicaid and what happens with medicaid. When we repeal and replace obamacare, the biggest entitlement reform at least in 20 years. Certainly since the clinton days when they reformed welfare. We want to restore power to the states, put medicaid on a budget and have a doctorpatient relationship in health care and the insurance market. 1 out of 3 counties, patients have one choice for an insurance plan. Let me make clear a couple things were going to make sure. Not pulling the rug out from under people. Not going back to the days where those with preexisting conditions were penalized or could not Access Health insurance and not back to the days of lifetime caps or allowing your kids not to be on your insurance until they are 26 by those protection stay as we reform medicaid and get it on a budget. Get it back to the states. Let me give you one example. Governor herbert from utah petitioned the federal government to be able to communicate by email with his medicaid recipients who had email. Nine months later, the federal bureaucrat said he couldnt do it by email. That would have saved his state 6 million bid this is the kind of thing that makes no sense, drives up costs, want to give back to our governors in states and local gover can innovate with those most in need, those on medicaid. Make sure they are properly cared for. Bret this includes preexisting conditions, and it includes keeping your child on until 26. Yes, indeed. No lifetime caps. We think those are important provisions. Those were frankly in many cases republican provisions long before there was obamacare. I worked on these issues in the 90s when i was on the state legislature. Health issues dont look at your Voter Registration card. They hit your family. We want to make sure those most in need get the care they deserve. Bret as you make a shift, if this passes, how do you avoid a drop in the total number of those insured. I think we will restore the markets. Right now the biggest threat is that the Health Insurance market itself and the individual market is collapsing. We have seen rate increases of 25 , 27 . I get letters from people saying i cant afford what they are selling. And if you look at the individual mandate and what its done in the market, twothirds of those say they are going to pay the penalty or get a waiver. Only a third signed up for obamacare insurance. Its out of whack, not working. As the ceo of aetna said, its in a death spiral. Want to create a market thats affordable and available and works in partnership with what chairman brady is doing on the tax credit side but we think we can get there and we can get coverage back into the marketplace that right now is collapsing. Bret chairman brady, i want to turn to you. Where do you think the biggest pushback even within your own caucus is going to come from. I know youre preaching this and the bill goes out tonight. Honestly, you cant lose more than 21 votes in your caucus to get it through the house, let alone what you are going to face in the senate. Where do you think the biggest pushback comes from . Im confident we are going to pass it and deliver on President Trumps promise to repeal and replace. These policies have passed the house a number of times in the repeal area. The replacement are longstanding republican policies of giving control back to the states and individuals but we are making sure this is fiscally responsible. I see the elements are there. Weve been listening very carefully to our republican members for months now and over the weekend as well to make sure we get it right for them. The changes you see in this legislation thats online tonight and available for americans to read i think are exactly in the right place. Bret are you willing is the speaker, leadership willing to use the Political Capital here to bring conservatives over and then you have the debt ceiling, possible Government Shutdown battles, tax reform. Is the Political Capital going to be used on this . Yes it is and it should be. This is one of our key promises as republicans but we know we can do so much better than obamacare. The proposal we lay out tonight in the stepbystep basis which is just the opposite of the Affordable Care act is exactly what the American People need. House republicans are going to deliver for the president. Bret chairman walden, final word. Are you confident this bill brings cost down . s to go i think it well. Especially in culmination with what secretary price can do at hhs. A lot of power over there to turn the levers. Get real reforms in the market. Restore to the states the ability to make some of these decisions appeared we have reached out to the states and may have said please. One side fits all doesnt work for our state. Thats part of why the markets are collapsing. In combination, the answer is yes and i think were going to get it done. We are proud of the product. Its online and people can read it and give us their feedback. We will have an open and transparent markup in the near future. Bret chairman brady and walton, thank you very much. President trump has signed his second executive order instituting a travel ban for potential immigrants and theres a lot of fingerpointing going on over there president s that his predecessor had the trump tower phone phones tapped. White has announced President Trump will ask the courts to revoke his initial immigration bill, the one thats been mired in the courts and some 48 Different Cases for weeks and hes going to try it all over again. The president lay low on the new executive order, citing it in private out of sight of the cameras, leaving the rule out to his lieutenants. While no system can be made completely infallible, the American People can have high confidence we are improving the vetting process and keeping terrorists from entering our country. The order aims to do the same thing as the first. Keep certain people with no previous status in the u. S. And who are currently overseas out of the country. Today the attorney general offered no evidence of the need to temporarily ban all refugees from the u. S. Today more than 300 people according to the fbi who came here as refugees are under an fbi investigation today for potential terrorism related activity. The First Executive order caused chaos at immigration checkpoints before being halted at the courts. Opponents called the new order more of the same. The white house insists this will pass legal muster with none of the confusion of the initial rollout. I have spent much of the day on the phone with members of congress and leadership explaining this and i did the same thing last week. There should be no surprises whether its in the media or capitol hill. White house offered no evidence to back up President Trumps extraordinary assertion on saturday that his predecessor has greenlighted wire tapping trump tower during the closing weeks of the election. Officials called on congress to investigate. Lets investigate it and see where it leads. Lets have a house and Senate Intelligence committee do their work and think about whether to include this. The president has made clear he would like there to be an investigation. Fox news has learned the afghan leadership asked the Justice Department to send out a tweet refuting the president s claims. James comey believes the assertion to be false. Senior white house staff indicated they are not buying what comey is trying to sell. Republican members of congress walked a difficult line. I have seen no evidence of the allegations weve seen in the media. That doesnt mean none of these things have happened. I havent seen it. Democrats rejected the idea the president was being spied on but said either way, it looks bad. If he falsely spread this kind of misinformation, that is so wrong. Its beneath the dignity of the presidency. If its true, its even worse for the president because that means that a federal judge independently elected has found probable cause that the president or people on his staff have had probable cause to have broken the law or to have interacted with a foreign agent. Of the president was trying to change the subject away from the disastrous end of the week, mission accomplished. In doing so hes ignited only in of questioning that could consume his staff for days to come. See you on john roberts on the north lawn. Lets get some perspective on the stories. Brit hume joins us. I want to start with the rollout of obamacare. As you get down in the details, do you think republicans are going to go after each other on some of this or that they will unite . I think republican will be fine on most of this but theres always been a problem that obamacare included the subsidies for people to buy insurance under the obamacare plan. The repeal of obamacare is you take those subsidies away, and we all know from years of watching entitlement Reform Efforts go by that the hardest thing the world to do is revoke a benefit once it has been granted by law. What the republicans have done is replace the subsidy with a tax credit which is in effect another form of subsidy. There are conservatives in the house and i think we know some of them are who think this is a bad idea, that it amounts to obamacare lite or even an element of obamacare lights. I think republicans in the house leadership have some work to do to sell the idea of the credit to some of the more conservative members. If they dont round enough of them up, they may be denied the majority they need to passage. Thats just one phase but i think its a trouble spot. Bret Mick Mulvaney, formerly of House Freedom caucus, is apparently going to lead some of that and they can lose 20 votes. They lose 21 and it goes to the house. In the senate, they need 51 votes to get through with reconciliation. They use the budget process to eliminate the possibility of a filibuster. They could do it with 51 votes but it means to be seen whether there is misgivings in the centage. This is the start of the process and there will be negotiations Going Forward in all kinds of melodrama and perilous moments when it looks like its going to come apart. Doing something this big is never easy. This is at least a plan. Critics have been saying that they dont have a plan. Now they have a plan. Bret all being laid out pretty want to get your thoughts on the other story that kind of consumed the weekend. President trumps tweets about wiretapping and the fallout from all of it. Two things. One is there doesnt appear to be any available substantiation for the claim that his predecessor authorized or allowed or even ordered him to be wiretapped. Its not at all clear that mr. Trump was wire tapped. That President Trump was wiretapped when he was mr. Trump. At the same time, in the middle of the firestorm over claims there was collusion between the Trump Campaign and russian interests or russian intelligence. There is no substantiation for that either as far as we know. What we have is a battle of competing claims, neither which seems to be wellfounded. Bret you have Chuck Grassley writing a letter to the fbi director in which he says that the fbi and associates of the Clinton Campaign paid former british spy Christopher Steele to investigate the republican nominee at a time when he was getting paid by the democratic campaign. He wants to know whats the deal with it. This is the infamous dossier. We know a couple things about the dossier. Theres a number of things in it that are known to be false in its white widely thought to e scurrilous. Apparently it never went forward, they negotiated and were going to work with him in some way and then the whole thing blew up in the press about the dossier and it never went forward. Seems to be senator grassley, chairman grassley is on solid ground asking for an excellent nation which is what the purpose of the letter was. It will be interesting to see how the fbi director, who seems to be at the center of nearly everything, response. Bret as always, thank you. Up next, the u. S. To bring court sets its sting out of the controversy over transgender bathrooms. We will have a lab report. Keep it here. Tom name it tom s