Displaced anger. Going to pay somewhere between 20 and 40 less than the other countries. Same exact that was directed toward the indictment. Predictably biden did steer clear of bidens legal troubles which took a marked turn to the worst today. Is he facing prison time Sweetheart Plea Deal actually collapsed. Is this all a smoke screen to hide the other crimes that involve others in the biden family . Joining me now is Sol Wisenberg former Deputy Independent Council and david schoen former trump impeachment lawyer. Okay, sol, i do kind of agree with what Vivek Ramaswamy we did thed out earlier that this seems a little bit like a smoke screen because is it bigger than the biden family, perhaps, being on the take with foreign governments and having our Foreign Policy affected by it . Probably not, but nevertheless real jail time a possibility, your reaction tonight . Real jail time is not much of a possibility, laura. Really in terms of weiss, is he dam damned if he does and damned if he doesnt. If he didnt indict and let the speedy trial clock run out, he would be criticized for that deservedly so. He did the minimum he had to do to save face. I dont think the fact that he indicted hunter today or had the grand jury could it is parted of a vast coverup its just that there are other coverups going on and thats important to point out. Hunters lawyer abbe lowell immediately put out a statement saying in part the evidence of this matter has not changed in the last six weeks but the law has and so has maga republicans improper and partisan interference in the process. All right, david, he also says that the charges dont hold water because of the Diversion Agreement. Is he going back to the Diversion Agreement. Your reaction do that . Hunter has got one of the most experienced criminal lawyers in the country in abbe lowell. And pretty wise lawyer, also. Going to try his best to negotiate first to get that Diversion Agreement back in place. If he has to litigate it he certainly will and he a tough fighter. There is something to the idea that the Diversion Agreement can be enforced. Its a signed agreement. Paragraph 19 of the agreement says its the complete agreement. Governments position is the Probation Officer didnt sign off where it says approved by but there is nothing in this agreement in con dras to the Plea Agreement that requires that. And you can be sure, behind the scenes, the Probation Office approved it. But, beyond that what he is talking about what the law i believe is fifth circuit case of raheemy, almost identical to count 3 thats charged here it. Threw out a charge of possession of a firearm by a person under an order, Domestic Violence order 922 g. Count 3 here charges hunter under 923 g 3 being possession of a firearm as a drug user. So, very similar. I think they look at the history and Second Amendment and not kind of thing prediction against gun possession. I think he has a strong case. The Supreme Court granted certain area in raheemy they did that back in june. This is a hot issue. Yesterday six cases argued in the New York Court Of Appeals on this kind of issue whether these Gun Control Regulations are constitutional and abbe lowell knows he has a very strong argument in that regard. Laura i fell like i just got cle credits. Continuing Legal Education credits from shone from the california bar. Thanks, david, i appreciate that all right, sol, on this issue jamie raskin came out today and, again, they are trying to turn the tables on this narrative. Watch hunter biden, you know, has been prosecuted by a u. S. Attorney who donald trump appointed who joe biden kept in office far from trying to cover anything up. I think President Biden has credibility that he believes in equal justin under the law he allowed Donald Trumps prosecutor to stay on board and investigate his own son. Laura because when i think corruption, i think eric swalwell. Now, sol, what of this . Hunter was charged because joe wants equal justice . What . Well, first of all i think others have said this and it bears repeating david weiss would not have been chosen as the u. S. Attorney for the district of delaware if he was objectionable in any way to either of the two Democratic Senators there. So, again, to call him trump appointed is to kind of, yes, is he technically trump appointed but it wouldnt have happened if he wasnt an entirely safe individual. David makes a good point. Abbe lowell is a great lawyer. But, remember, that abby is not the one who negotiated the original Diversion Agreement. And there is going to be a real factual dispute here. If the court says that the agreement is ambiguous in the issue of whether or not Probation Officer has to sign off or whether or not he agreed with it. There are differing interpretations there was a filing a few days ago where the government said absolutely, the chief Probation Officer in delaware never signed off on it. And the defense came back and said not only did they not sign off on it but the government represented that to the court we dont find a record of that anywhere. There is going to have to be some kind of a hearing on this and stay tuned. Laura is this all a gamble in effect, david, to your point. You have got one federal Appeals Court doesnt look at the statute. There is a question about whether this is going to, you know, hold up. So, in the end, could this end up becoming like a Boomerang Effect on the republicans themselves . They say hunter, hunter, hunter and well, actually didnt hold up in court. It could. And its at least a diversion as you pointed out a smoke screen, do you think . Sol, david, so much. This morning talking about illegitimate impeachment. Nothing more than a partisan political stunt, there is no no evidence shred of evidence that President Biden engaged in wrongdoing. Laura thats Hakeem Jeffries talking about my next guest. House Judiciary Committee chair jim jordan. Congressman, you laid out for republicans today where the biden impeachment investigation stands. What can you tell us clearly so the people watching tonight be can understand . Well, there is so many facts that warrant requesting to this phase of our constitutional duty to do oversight. And thats why this speaker i find it interesting that this announcement from david weiss comes two days after the speaker announces we are opening an Impeachment Inquiry. I find there has been all kinds of those kind of coincidences that have happened along the way. But i think what happened today with david weiss, this was an attempt to save face. Because, remember, the context here. First, there was going to be no charges against hunter biden. Then it was the Sweetheart Deal they take to the judge that the judge declines, and then they say, oh, the person who presided over all that, four and a half years and all that, were going to make that individual the Special Counsel. So, of course he has to do something. And he does this. I think its largely a distraction from the bigger potential issues here which is the farrah issue and, of course, the Felony Tax Concerns and the statute of limitations that they let run. So, you have all that. Were going to look into it. Were going to do our duty. Were going to be driven by the facts and the evidence and the constitution. Laura im going to say this again. Foreign policy. Yeah. Our Foreign Policy, it raises a question have any decisions been made that would not have been made had this connection between hunter and top chinese officials, top ukrainian officials not have existed . Think about the ukrainian official burisma. Four key facts that capture this all. The first is hunter is put on the Board Of Burisma. Second, he wasnt qualified to be on the Board Of Burisma third, the people on burisma say hey we need help of d. C. To get the pressure the prosecutor is putting on us. Fourth, joe biden goes to ukraine and gets the prosecutor fired. And he uses our tax dollars. He leverages our tax money, the people of the Fourth District of ohio that i represent leverages their money to get that done. And when he did it it was an abrupt turn from the policy of the obama administration. And, frankly, what he did is consistent with the 10 23 form and what the confidential human source said took place. If that doesnt Warrant Opening an Impeachment Inquiry, i dont know what does. And then you add to that the layer of how the Justice Department has handled this case for a four and a half years, i think we have to investigate. Thats our job. Laura subpoenas did, more go out today . Yeah. Laura if so to whom . More attorneys at doj. We have done 13 just related to this between chairman laura attorneys. Attorneys part of the hunter biden investigation. Particularly that meeting that took place on october 7th, 2022 that the whistleblower, whistleblower mr. Shapley the red line meeting he realized there is no fixing. This i will have to go forward and talk about how this case was handled. We want to talk with people in that meeting and others associated with it. 13 in total between chairman smith, Chairman Comer and our committee that we want to talk. To say we talked to three already. The two already in our committee and a couple more that have been talked to by chairman smith. Laura now, mitt romney has spoken out on this Impeachment Inquiry, you know, he has announced his retirement. He did this big how populism is dangerous and we need to go back to the old ways i guess when republicans lost everything. This is what he said about the impeachment issue. The house is beginning an Impeachment Inquiry. I havent heard any allegation of something that would rise to the level of a high crime or misdemeanor. I think it would be very unusual to actually see a referral of impeachment . I dont expect that to happen. They can inquire and see if there is evidence that shows something else. I dont think they will find that. Laura but he votes to impeach donald trump over january 6th because what evidence is that that trump said also, one of the issues on the first ridiculous impeachment. Here is the ultimate irony they impeach President Trump saying he leveraged american tax dollars preference policy done in ukraine which he didnt but thats what they impeached President Trump over and now we have joe biden engaged in the very same thing. That is, to me, the great irony here. So evidence, 10 for the big guy. No one has disputed the big guy is joe biden. 50 for pops. The brand according to devon archer, Hunter BidensBusiness Partner the brand was, in fact, joe biden. Multiple bidens receiving money. Multiple Companies Set up. Multiple times the white house has changed their story on this whole situation. On and on we go. Laura as a friend of mine said the other night also a very prominent lawyer said, look, if this stuff is true, this is much better than watergate. Selling u. S. Access, influence for money for your Family Member, who is the closest Family Member to you other than your wife. Dinners phone calls, meetings. Is that not . Thats why we have moved to this phase of our investigation. Thats why i think it was appropriate to do so. And thats why the speaker announced it two days ago. And i think its interesting that two days later you get this maybe there is no rhyme or reason to why it happened two days later. But there has been a number of those kind of things that have happened close together. Laura congressman, thanks for coming in tonight. Great to see you. The truth hurts and democrats are about to be in some serious pain. My angle explains, next. Americas plastic makers are investing billions of dollars in new technologies and creating Plastic Products that are more recyclable. Durable. And dependable. Our goal is a cleaner, healthier planet for generations to come. For a better tomorrow, were focused on making plastics better today. 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They came at him side wrays through the Washington Post columnist David Ignatius. It turns out that some on the Intel Community gave that writer a heads up about calls that were intercepted between flynn and the Russian Ambassador at the end of 2016. Like clockwork this ended up in a column published on january 12th, 2017. Where ignatius noted the flynn calls and then asked did trumps gain encourage russias alleged hacking to hurt his rival Hillary Clinton and does russia have leverage on him . We know the rest of the story. The Special Counsel investigate Special Election interference and flynn pled guilty. Ignatius was the goto guy to get the ball rolling. So i wonder is a similar dynamic at play again . But this time the guy they are trying to push aside, could it be joe biden . In a the Washington Post column published two days ago, anything neighbors a loyal democrat, argues that biden should not run again. Bidens age isnt just a fox news trope, its been the subject of Dinner Table Conversations across america this summer. Kamala harris is less popular than biden. She has failed to gain traction in the country or even within her own party. Wow. And he sounded alarm again on camera through this summer i havent gone anywhere in the country. I havent talked to any group of people where this issue whether President Biden should run again hasnt been a centerpiece of conversation. It doesnt get into the newspapers. But its there now. Which leads us to ask is there some coordination going on between top Government Officials who are increasingly worried about a trump second term and the press who equally despises trump and is getting worried . Have they now made a calculation that biden is a liability and not an asset . And are they now kind of feeling their way to some type of transition away from biden . Why not ask nancy pelosi who, in two consecutive Media Appearances sounded purposefully unconvincing in her faint praise for a bidenharris ticket. The bidenharris team is a team were very proud of. Joe biden bricks such wisdom, judgment, experience to the job of presidency. And he is a great president and will continue to be a great president. He is experienced and strategic in his thinking. Thats all up here and then in the heart he is the most empathetic president. Laura yeah. The fire maui thought joe biden was super empathetic when he finally visited the region. Deadliest fire in state history and compares it to a kitchen fire where he almost lost his cat. Pelosis absurd praise makes biden seem even more decrepit to me, not less. She knows that too she has to say those things. She also knew that the message she was about to be sending about bidens number two was going to be taken a certain way when she answered this question. Is Vice PresidentKamala Harris the best running mate for this president . He thinks so. And thats what matters. And, by the way. Do you think so .