Transcripts For FOXNEWSW The Daily Briefing With Dana Perino

Transcripts For FOXNEWSW The Daily Briefing With Dana Perino 20200729



america, midland, texas. >> you know it well. lesson, about 25 minutes from where i am standing, that private fund-raiser being sponsored by governor greg abbott, rick perry also along with them. they will be here in about an hour an and i have to give a sph on the oil industry. the oil industry has taken a huge hit. oil prices back in april were actually trading in the negatives. very, very scary to many people. now, one of the thousands of companies, and texas struggling. at this morning, dana, eyes and fall this morning not working, just sitting stationary. this unfortunately is the sad reality. he owns the actual rig for later this afternoon. >> and we've got going back to work in the next couple months, so for our company, things are improving. they have sort of been rough for the whole industry. >> dana, he set about five years ago, he had over 1,000 employees. now, he has laid off over 300 and just the past month or so. it has been incredibly different for the oil industry. again, president trump in nearby odessa, he will take the stage to deliver remarks. making it easier to get permits, and also talking about other aspects of the oil and gas industry. very important. >> dana: and the backbone of the economy. thank you so much, david. meantime, violence continues in cities coast-to-coast, particularly in portland, where protesters have been at it for two straight months. but new today, d-line when the feds might leave the city. john roberts is live with more. >> dhs officials tell me that after more than 60 days of continuous violence there nightly in the city of portland, the governor has done the right thing and done what she should have done weeks ago, and that is to call in the oregon state troopers to help provide security for the hatfield federal courthouse there in the area surrounding it in downtown portland. acting dhs secretary chad wolf worked out an agreement with the brown over the last few days. according to that agreement, there will be a robust presence of oregon state police in downtown portland. state and local police are to begin securing property, especially federal property, and state police will coordinate with the federal protective service to protect federal facilities. however, the officers will not be leaving the city immediately. here is what president trump said about it this morning. listen here. >> we hear all sorts of reports about us leaving. we are not leaving until we have secured their city. they don't secure their city soon, we will have to go in and clean it out. >> chad wolf saying "the department will continue to maintain our current augmented federal law enforcement personnel in portland until we are assured that the hatfield federal courthouse and other federal properties will no longer be attacked and that the seed of justice in portland will remain secure." wolf goes on to say it that "dhs maybe in a a position to change its course posture," but he insisted state and local leaders must police their communities. dhs officials also insist that they did not acquiesce that any demands from the state officials. rather, it was the other way around. officials were eventually forced to come to the table. in a conference call this afternoon, chad wolf saying "the oregon officials are finally seeing the error of their ways, stepping up and what they should have been doing for the last 60 days. that is partnering with federal law enforcement to do their job." dan i. >> dana: yes, and chad wolf will be on "bill hemmer reports" in the 3:00 hour. >> you can hear it right from the horses lips. >> dana: that's a new saying. we are going to work on that one, john. great to see you. let's bring in the communications director for president trump 2020 campaign, and always a wonderful guest for us. things were being here. i want to talk about the campaign, and if you follow the money, and you follow the travel of the president and the vice president, there seems to be some clues as to what might be happening. ted cruz said this about texas last week. take a look. >> texas is the key to national domination for years to come. if the democrats win texas, it's all over appeared with the democrats did in 2018, its own warning sign for 2020. they more than double democratic turnout in the state of texas. they took it from 1.8 million all the way up to 4 million. that was unprecedented. >> dana: so, ted cruz sounding the alarm, saying that the president needed to get to texas. is this trip today in response to that? >> no, the trip today, as you alluded to before, that the oil industry is a big reason why the economy was so strong in the first place under president trump. it's a great way to draw a contrast with joe biden. he has alexandria ocasio-cortez killing the entire fossil fuel industry and the 10 million jobs that go along with it. president trump is going to win texas, make no mistake about that. we don't believe it is close now or that it will be. we actually implored joe biden to spend money in taxes if he thinks is competitive. go ahead, then spend the money there. then he will not be able to spend in minnesota. >> dana: i have seen some democrats saying anonymously that it is foolish for the biden campaign to spend money in texas, but i want to ask about michigan because there's a report that the trump campaign has not spend any additional on ads there. iowa or even georgia so we have this monmouth university hawks my cow today, having them at a 47-47 tie, so does he need to shore up his position mary and what is traditionally a pretty red state of georgia? >> that's actually not even tr true. time reserved in michigan for the home stretch leading up to election day. we are going to be on the air nationally, first of all, and in key battleground states because we are in the process of educating all americans that joe biden is an empty vessel. he is the trojan horse candidate that the extreme left is using to fill with their extreme agenda. we will be on tv in michigan, absolutely, and all the way up to election day, just as we will be nationally. americans, our internal data shows, that a lot of people now who joe biden is, but not very much now much about him. and that is going to change between now and election day. believe me. >> dana: i think that's interesting. you've said that on this program before. one biden is more fully defined, you will see a shift in the numbers. it especially online order. take a listen to what joe biden said. >> we are able to do without the department of homeland security. turn it into a private militia. and it can be done today. but that wouldn't help trumps political interest. he's determined to stoke division and chaos. it's not good for the country. but donald trump doesn't care. his campaign is failing, and he is looking for a political lifeline. >> dana: tim, tell me what the campaign season terms of law and order and that being a campaign hug going into the last 96 days. >> well, i think over the last two months in portland as an example, you get a glimpse of what america would be like if joe biden were president. he was very clear. he would not have sent federal law enforcement and to try to keep the peace in portland, and it is quite clear that the governor of oregon and that may or have not been doing their jobs for the last two months, or president trump would not have had to step in, and they have made it a mission that they have not been doing their jobs by now agreeing to have that oregon state police there, so if joe biden were in charge, he would not have enlisted the aid of federal law enforcement officers, and chaos would still be raining in portland and seattle and in other cities around the country. that's the approach joe biden would take. he has sided with the rioters and against law enforcement officers. >> dana: he did say yesterday that he thinks that they should be arrested and tried. he did say yesterday that he believes that anyone who is rioting or suspected of the violence that we are seeing should be arrested and tried. >> joe biden, from the very beginning, has taken the side of the rioters against the police. the statement that he issued specifically about portland, he accused police of stoking the fires of division at a time when the protesters were setting literal fires at the federal courthouse. so biden knows he's on the wrong side of this issue, is trying to backpedal. he has sided with the rioters and i guess the police, and president trump will be crystal clear from today to the end and from the very beginning, he stands with law enforcement and the people who live in these communities and want to be able to live in peace. if joe biden can look at what's going on in portland and think that it's peaceful, we don't even know what he's on. >> dana: i think he was making a distinction between the protesters and those who were violent. always good to have you, tim. speak i thank you, dana. >> dana: now i have a live look where the heads of google, facebook, amazon, and apple are testifying. let's take a look. >> congressman, i think the ftc had all of these documents and review this and unanimously voted at the time not to challenge the acquisition. i mean, i think with hindsight, it probably looks like obvious that instagram would have reached the scale that it would have today, but at the time, it was far from obvious. a lot of the competitors that they competed with, including these companies, which were hot at the time and had great founders and entrepreneurs running them. i worked closely with him. i don't think it would even exist today. it was not an guarantee that instagram was going to succeed. the acquisition was going wildly well, not just because of the founders talent but because we invested heavily in building up the infrastructure and promoting them, working on security, working on a lot of things around us, and i think -- >> well, thank you. mr. zuckerberg, you are making my point. in closing, mr. chairman, i want to end where i began. facebook, by mr. zuckerberg's own admission, and from the documents that we have, they saw instagram as a threat to potentially take business away from facebook. this is exactly the type of anticompetitive acquisition that the antitrust laws were designed to prevent. this should never have happened in the first place. it should never have happened, and it cannot happen again. i yelled back. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i would remind the witness that it of course does not alleviate the antitrust challenges that that chairman described. i will recognize the gentleman from colorado, and again, thank him for cohosting one of the most important field hearings that we have had in colorado. i think it is a critical investigation. >> thank you, mr. chairman, and i want to offer my appreciation to you for the bipartisan way that you have approached the investigation. i want to start by saying that capitalism is the greatest instrument for freedom this world has ever seen. it has given the united states the freedoms and means to defeat the soviet union, be back fascism, and put a man on the moon. this economic system has lifted millions out of poverty. it has made america the freest, most prosperous nation in the world. our witnesses have taken ideas born out of a dorm room, garage, warehouse, and built these dreams into four of the biggest power players in the digital global economy. we all enjoy the freedom to succeed. now, let me be clear. i do not believe it is necessarily bad. big is often a force for good. but i want to address one particularly disturbing issue. in october 2010, google dropped out of the running for pentagon contracts to complete the defense infrastructure or jedi contract, which was valued at more than $10 billion. googles reason for removing itself from the bidding process is that the u.s. military's project did not align with google's corporate values and principles. this is the same u.s. military that fights for our freedoms and stands as a force for good across the globe. these are the same soldiers, sailors, and airmen that sacrifice their lives in order to ensure you have the freedom to build your company and set your corporate policies without fear of government interference, unlike in communist china. i also find it very interesting that only months after making this decision to withdraw from the jedi contract, then chairman of the u.s. joint chiefs of staff warns of the committee that the chinese military was directly benefiting from google's work. it made me wonder what values google and communist red china had in common. i asked myself is it that the chinese communist party imprisons muslims and concentration camps? showing on the chart behind me, could it be that china forces to work in sweatshops? maybe they align on the desire to suppress free speech. did they agree to lie to the world about the covid-19 pandemic? then i thought about the dragonfly experiment. i wondered if perhaps you agreed with their use of technology platforms to spy on its own people and enforced ricardian security laws. maybe it's that your company is aligned with the chinese communist parties corporate espionage policies where the strategy is to steal whatever can be produced domestically. these values that allow them to work with the chinese military would explain why they wouldn't think twice about plainly stealing a competitors product, right down to the watermark, with any hint of retribution. i heard a story that was so brazen and contrary to premarket principles that i thought it must have been straight from the chinese playbook. relying on your search engine to build its brand and company. google misappropriated lyrics from genius media groups website and publish those lyrics on google's own platform. however, genius, google in the act quite literally, red-handed, when genius expected this corporate draft was occurring, as they incorporated a digital watermark that spelled out "red-handed." the lyric boxes contain the watermark, showing that your company stole what you couldn't or didn't want to produce yourself. after google executive stated that they were investigating this problematic behavior, jeannie has created another experiment to determine the scope of the misappropriation. it turned out that out of 271 songs where the watermark was applied, 43% showed clear evidence of matching. your company, which advertises itself as a doorway to freedom, took advantage of the small company, but extinguishing their freedom to compete. google is supposed to connect people to information. your corporate values once stood for freedom, a platform that let capitalism to flourish and help bring countless people across the globe out of out of poverty. my question to you, do you think that google should get away with following this playbook if you didn't have a monopolistic advantage in the market? speak out congressman, i want to be able to address the important issue that you raise. the project with the department of defense, bringing our cybersecurity approached to help protect pentagon networks from cybersecurity attacks. the project underway with the navy, happy to explain more. we have a very limited persons in china. we don't offer any of our services in china. and for the music, we license the contents there from other company is, and so this is a dispute between genius and other company is in terms of the contents. but again, happy to engage in explain what we do here. >> i yelled back, mr. chairman. >> i now recognize the gentleman from georgia, mr. johnson, for . >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. cook, with over 100 million iphone users in the united states alone, and without ownership of the app store, giving apple the ability to control which apps are allowed to be marketed to apple users, you will do immense power over small businesses to grow and prosper. apple is the sole decision maker as to whether or not an app is made available to app users through apple's app store, is that correct? >> sir, thank you for the question. the app store is a feature of the iphone, much like the camera is and that ship is -- >> my point is, and i'm sorry to interrupt, but i want to get to the point. the point is that apple is the sole decision-maker as to whether an app is made available to app users to the apple store, isn't that correct? >> it' if it's on native app, y. >> throughout our investigation, we have heard concerns that rules governing the app store review process are not available to the app developers. the rules are made up as you go. they are arbitrarily interpreted and enforced and are subject to change one of our apple sees fit to change, and they have no choice but to go along with the changes, or they must leave the app store. that's an enormous amount of power. also, the rules get changed to benefit the app developers, and the app store is said to also discriminate between app developers with similar app player last on the apple platform, and versus large app developers. why do they not treat all app developers equally? >> sir, we treat every developer the same. we have open and transparent rules. it's a rigorous process. because we care so deeply about privacy and security and quality, we do look at every app before it goes on, but those rules apply evenly to everyone, and as you can tell -- >> some developers are favored over others, though, isn't that correct? >> that is not correct, and as you can tell from going from -- >> i will give you an example. i do have two app stores -- two app store employees to navigate the bureaucracy. is that true? >> i don't know about that, sir. >> well, you don't have other app developers who have the same access to apple personnel, do you? >> we do -- we do a lot of things with developers, including looking at their beta test apps, regardless of whether they are small or large. >> okay, well, let me ask you this question. apple has negotiated exceptions to typical 30% commission for some apps, like amazon prime. a reduced commission, such as the one that amazon prime gets, available to other app developers? >> it's available to anyone meeting the conditions, yes. >> okay, let me ask you this. apple requires all app developers to use apple's payment processing system if those developers want to sell their goods or services to apple users through the apple app store. is that correct? >> that is correct. speak out and processing payments for apps that you allow into the app store, you collect their customer data, and you use that data to inform apple as to whether it should, whether or not it would be profitable for apple to launch a competing app. isn't that correct? >> sir, 84% of the apps charge nothing. the remaining 16% either. 15 or 30, depending on the specifics. if it's in the second year of a subscription, as an example, it only pays 15%. >> what's to stop apple from increasing their commission to 50%? >> sir, we have never increased commission in the store since the first day operated. >> what is to stop you from doing so? >> no, sir, i disagree strongly with that. there is a competition for developers, just like there is for customers. and so the competition for developers, they can write their apps for windows or playstation. we have fierce competition at the developer side and the customer side, which is essentially it is so competitive, i would describe it as a street fight for market share in the smartphone business. speak out have they ever disadvantaged a developer who went public about their frustrations with the app store? >> sir, we do not retaliate or bully people. that's strongly against our company culture. >> your time has expired. the chairman recognizes that gentleman from florida. >> mr. zuckerberg made the claim that facebook is an american company with american values. do any of the rest of you take a different view, that is to say that your companies don't embrace american values? great to see that none of you do. mr. pichai, i'm worried about google's market power, how it concentrates that power, and ultimately how it wields it. project maven was a collaboration between google and the department of defense, citing ethical concerns, and you made the decision to pull out of that following receipt of the letter from thousands of your employees, saying that google should not be in the business of war. my question, mr. pichai, is due to you weigh the input from your employees when making that decision to abandon that judge with the united states military? >> congressman, thanks for your concern. we are deeply committed to supporting the military and the u.s. government. we have undertaken many projects. we do take them into confidence. making decisions on a variety of factors. as a company, we were new in the cloud space at that time. >> thank you, that is a sufficient answer. you did take their feedback into account, and in fact, some have recently sent you a letter in which they asked you to exit partnerships as a consequence of ethical concerns. they've asked you to stop doing business with american law enforcement, saying that police broadly uphold white supremacy an end not google should not be engaged in any services to police, and as you well know, you provide some of the most basic services to police, like email, but also services that help keep our cops safe when they are doing their job, and so my question is here in front of congress and the american people, will you take the pledge that google will not adopt the bigoted antipolice policy that is requested in the most recent letter? >> congressman, we have a long track record of working with law enforcement when it is supported by due process. the pushback against request, the request that we get, but we have a long history of following the law -- >> i understand the history. i'm asking you about the future. law enforcement, can they rest assured that under your leadership, google will not adopt these bigoted antipolice policies? >> we are committed to continue to work with law enforcement in the u.s. >> i greatly appreciate that, and i know that will be very comforting to the police who utilize your services. you mentioned earlier in the discussion about china value or engagement in china was very limited. but yeah google has an ai china center. the chinese academy of sciences has published a paper that enhance the targeting capabilities of china's jay 20 fighter aircraft. you collaborate with chinese universities that take millions upon millions of dollars from the chinese military. in fact, one of your googlers, under your employee, was cited in chinese state media, saying china is like a sleeping giant. when she wakes, she will trample the world." phone lines have been blurred in china between commercial and military application, and as he cited, he says that your company is directly aiding the chinese military and peter teal, who actually serves on mr. zuckerberg board at facebook, so that google's activities with china are treasonous. he accuse you of treason. so, why would an american company with american values so directly the chinese military but have ethical concerns about working alongside the u.s. military on project maven? and i understand your point about cyber security. it a specific way to ensure that our troops are safe on the battlefield, and if you have no problem making the g20 chinese fighter more effective in its targeting, why wouldn't you want to make america as an effective? >> congressman, we are not working with the chinese military. that is absolutely false. we have clarified what we do, very, very limited in nature. people working on open source projects. i am happy to share with the office to explain the work in china. >> gosh, when the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff said that an american company is directly aiding china, when you have an ai center, working with universities, and they are talking about china trembling the world, it seems to really call into question your commitment to our question and error values. >> i recognize the gentleman from maryland. >> mr. zuckerberg, as you know, the proliferation of facebook accounts is a key tool in the strategy of russian interference in the american election in 2016. the sun, the house have all found that vladimir putin engaged in a sweeping and systematic campaign to undermine american democracy in 2016 to work for victory in for donald trump. in his remarkable book, whistle-blower christopher wiley who worked for several years there, recounts how the russian assault on america dependent on facebook. "when cambridge analytica launched in the summer of 2014, steve bannon's goal was to change politics by changing culture. facebook data, algorithms, and narratives were key weapons. they use these tools to identify people who exhibited the three traits, the dark triad. narcissism, machiavellianism, and psychopathy. they then bombarded these people, small percentage of the american public, and increasingly dark and manipulative messages from facebook page is both to get them to vote for trump but more importantly, to activate them as a racist and white nationalist." he goes on to describe the remarkable success of this campaign both electorally and politically in the country in terms of sowing the terrible racial and ethnic divisions that you see in america today. so, they waged a mass campaign of psychological warfare to polarized america around race and to activate races and anti-semites. but it didn't work so well for america. mr. zuckerberg, which parts of this narrative have you addressed, were you planning to address, or do you see that, essentially, as the cost of being a four-minute marketplace for ideas? is there nothing that can be done about the use of facebook to engender social division in america? >> congressman, thank you. since 2016, there have been a lot of steps that we have taken to protect the integrity of elections. we've hired more than 30,000 people to work on safety and security. we've built up ai systems to be able to find harmful content, including being able to find more than 50 different networks of coordinated and authentic behavior. basically nation-states trying to interfere in elections. >> let me just because you therefore second because i'm interested in that. it does stop it for profit campaign is a coalition that includes a color of change, the anti-defamation league, in another civil rights groups, and their targeting facebook right now for a boycott because of the rapid spread of hate messages online, the presence of extremist groups trying to infiltrate and disrupt the black lives matter purchase, and the fact that all try and anti-semitic content flourishes on facebook. so they are asking you to remove these pages and essentially to join the movement for civil rights by not allowing that kind of content. therefore cutters include a lot of big companies like patagonia, levis, mcdonald's, heineken, and so on. but you seem not to be that moved by their campaign. and i just wondered what you think about what they are asking you to do. >> congressman, thanks. we are very focused on fighting against election interference, and we are also very focused on fighting hate speech. our commitment to those issues and fighting them go back years before this recent movement. this 2016, the defenses that the company has built up to help secure elections not just in the u.s. but around the world, i think are some of the most advanced that any company of our government has in the world. we routinely know collaborate with law enforcement and intelligence agencies, and are able to sometimes identify threats coming from other countries before governments are even able to. in terms of fighting hate, we have build sophisticated syste systems. our goal is to identify it before anyone even sees it on the platform. we built ai systems, and i mentioned, tens of thousands of people working on safety and security with the goal of getting the stuff down, so that way, before people even see it. we are able to proactively identify 89% of the hate speech that we take down before i think it is even seen by other people. i would like to get that's a 99%, but we have a massive investment here. >> my time is almost out. can you just address the proliferation of fake accounts. i understand annually you get 6.5 billion fake accounts produced there, but in some sense, you have a profit motive that is linked to that because that is what is reported to your investors. are you working zealously to try to get out these fake accounts that are used to spread hate and disinformation? >> the witness may answer the question. >> absolutely. we work hard on this. we take down billions of fake accounts the year. a lot of that is people just trying to set up accounts to spam people for commercial reasons. a very small percent of utter nation-states trying to interfere in elections, but we are very focused on trying to find those. harmful content on our platforms does not help our business. it hurts our business. people do not want to see about stuff, and they use our services less when they do, so we are aligned with people to take that down, and we invest billions of dollars a year to do so. >> yelled back, i think you. >> we stand in recess as we fix a technical feed with one of her witnesses. >> dana: already coming you been listening to the hearing there on capitol hill. i have a little bit of echo in my here. in the meantime, let's go to gillian turner, reporting live from capitol hill. i bet that was really interesting. members of congress -- a lot of issues. they don't seem to be sticking to anyone of them. this could go on for quite a while. what was your biggest takeaway? >> first of all, this hearing got off to you are really rough. democrats goulding republicans for not wearing masks. the hearing started about an hour late because the committee was having technical issues, so that's just kind of another manifestation of what you are seeing. they are not terribly well prepared. this hearing was really about two years in the making, and getting all four of these big tech ceos that once was like capturing lightning in a bottle. now, what's interesting is that they seem to agree on antitrust. these four tech companies have now gotten so big, lawmakers are worrying that they have made the tech industry anticompetitive. here is the chairman echoing my jim jordan set at the top. >> open martic kits are predicated on the idea that if a company harms people, they will choose another option. we are here today because that choice is no longer possible. >> of the four tech giant ceo ceos, jeff bezos is really the wild card. the only one who's never testified before lawmakers before. he came out of the gate swinging. he said exactly what they want to hear, which is that he thinks amazon should be scrutinized. apple ceo tim cook and mark zuckerberg took the opposite approach. they claimed or tried to claim that their platforms are not dominant. take a listen. >> we don't have a dominant share in any market or in any product category where we do business. >> our services are about connection, and our business model is advertising. we face intense competition. in many areas, we are behind our competitors. >> so the big thing that all four of these ceos want to do here today, convince lawmakers not to break them up. that's an idea that has really gained a lot of traction here on the hill in recent years thanks to elizabeth warren and the plan that she had to do exactly that. >> one thing that surprises me that i wasn't come up a lot which we were expecting to hear where these accusations from republicans about anti-conservative bias. jim jordan brought that up off the top in his opening remarks, but no one circle back on it yet, so we will bring you that as soon as they get into it. >> and i'm sure they probably will. gillian turner, thank you. we will get back to the hearing as soon as we can. in the meantime, fox news contributor ari fleischer, former white house press secretary, he joins me now. i could talk to about this for hours, but i will get to a couple of points. so, for any of these companies, when you get invited to capitol hill, it is an antitrust hearing, that sounds alarm bells off for the ceos. and i know getting these four to come on the same day is really important. if you are watching comedies members of congress, especially when there questioning tech ceos, it is hard for them to get to the point. they don't really seem to know what it is that their staff is asking them that they should ask it, and the ceos are able to just get through it easily. >> it does make you scratch your head and say what's the issue? and we've seen this before. members of congress have to be in an inch thin and a mile wide on so many different issues. as they develop real expertise. when they do, it is typically over something involving foreign policy, armed forces. tech? no. politicians and tech don't really go well together. politicians might have their technology work. they want to be able to tweet, but the tech experts, they can talk circles around members of congress. >> dana: one of the things that happened yesterday is that the republicans on the committee issued a memo that said you know, we have to be careful here because the democrats want the power, and if they were to take over the presidency and the senate, you could end up having big government get very involved in big tech. do we really want to go down that road? what you think about that? >> at the end of the day, they are the private sector, and they became gigantic because tens of millions of people subscribe to their services. they like what they are getting. so i'm always reluctant, dana, to say that the government can do well and regulate, stefan, now that are how to do things than the private sector can do, so i just start with a heavy dose of skepticism about whether the government can improve things. i think the public has to continue to pressure any private sector company. if not, find alternative vehic vehicle. >> dana: well, and these companies are also facing pressure from other governments outside of our country. these are american companies. they employ a lot of people. maybe they should employ more. maybe they should be doing things differently, but they are american companies, and the trump administration has been pushing back pretty hard, especially against the e.u., saying if you go after them, we will go after you. i will give you the last word on that. >> that's really interesting t too, isn't it? he criticizes a lot of these tech companies and then defends them and other forms, which is appropriate. not everything has to fall into these categories. the other issue too is a lot of these companies to manufacture in china, and i would love to see them do more of their manufacturing in america. hopefully that is one of the results that will come from all of the pressure. >> dana: all right. ari fleischer pure pleasure to have you. next, most kids aren't even back in school yet, but already, one of the biggest teachers unions in america is signing off on teachers walking out. ♪ i don't see it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ the open road is open again. and wherever you're headed, choice hotels is there. book direct at choicehotels.com. ♪ (vo) ...especially when your easilyg distracted teenager has the car. at subaru, we're taking on distracted driving... ...with sensors that alert you when your eyes are off the road. the subaru forester. the safest forester ever. >> techand your car., we're committed to taking care of you >> tech: we'll fix it right with no-contact service you can trust. >> tech: so if you have auto glass damage, stay safe with safelite. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ lookentertainmentour experience: xfinity x1. it's the easiest way to watch live tv and all your favorite streaming apps. plus, x1 also includes peacock premium at no extra cost. this baby is the total package. it streams exclusive originals, the full peacock movie library, complete collections of iconic tv shows, and more. yup, the best really did get better. magnificent. xfinity x1 just got even better, with peacock premium included at no additional cost. no strings attached. they have businesses to grow customers to care for lives to get home to they use stamps.com print discounted postage for any letter any package any time right from your computer all the amazing services of the post office only cheaper get our special tv offer a 4-week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps.com/try and never go to the post office again! >> dana: for some schools planning to reopen in just a matter of weeks, one of the nation's largest teachers unions is threatening strikes of safety protocols dummy their demands. jackie has life with more. >> good afternoon. august 1st, it is crunch time to figure out what is going to happen with schools. do they open? don't they open? all in the backdrop of the coronavirus. so many unknowns as well. you have the trump administration, and they're saying you've got to open schools. we are going to help you do it safely appeared with the senate republicans pushing for $70 billion for education with more going to schools that open in person for instruction. for parents, it's imperative that the kids go back to work. long term distance learning. the administration also realizes that some kids are put at a huge disadvantage here because of remote learning, not getting meals, parental supervision to learn socialization, and so many other things. the other side said it is just not safe to open. one of the most outspoken has been president of the 1.7 million member american federation of teachers. she has set all measures will be taken to protect students and their educators in the case of last resort, they may even strike. she told stuart varney why in some places it is difficult to get a hybrid opening plan in place. go what's happened is they can't get the ventilation systems so that they are safer now. they can't even get soap so that kids can wash their hands, and so that's why we are trying to get them to start remotely and then get bac back to school. >> saw a couple of things to consider here. in june, about 76% of the aft actually wanted to go back to learning and present, but of course, that was before we saw spikes in certain cases. i also want to bring this to your attention. these stacks that are pretty staggering. children of color, they've got the most to lose if they stay home. only 9% of why parents are concerned with serving their children meals during this time period, but children don't my parents of color may not be able to put food on the table. so many things to consider here with the welfare of children and their teachers being first and foremost. >> jackie deangelis with that story for us. thank you so much. and now on the case after thousands of americans started getting strange packages of seeds from china. this is a very crazy story. gary taney has more on this for us. what's going on? 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