Especially when talk about ebola. First of all homework shows youre not at risk unless you swap spit or other bodily fluids. Diseases like these are hygienically borne and terminated by isolation. If that american doctor a hero who put others lives before his honey cant come here for treatment than where . He didnt go to canada or england which says much about our private health care and little about their socialized alternative. Of course you should always stress precaution. Thats helpful. Especially if youre in the media. When you suggest, however that chaos reigns in a hospital where there might be an ebola patient youre not helping. You may get more attention or eyeballs but youre a creep. Cover the kardashian instead at least you wont hurt anybody and it might stop the hysteria. The person being tested means nothing. They have to isolate you. The guy is doing fine. No chance he has the virus. So why the reactionary response, dana . Because it is a deadly disease and there is concern. I think what youre referring to are you referring to the front page of the New York Post that there was a guy who might have a ebola. Its shark bite story of 2014. Usually every summer theres the story of shark bites and you have to be worried if youre near the shore. Theres reason to be concerned that there are people that are coming, possibly coming in to the country who are infected but dont know it. And then, you know, could be additional problems. You have to be educated about how it is spread. Its not like sars. Remember when there was the sars epidemic in Southeast Asia and it started spreading. That was a little bit more worrisome because it was spread through, if i can be talking to bob and he could end u sars. He already has sars. And he survived. Bob has ebola and sars im fine. Designee gets healthier. You could get Something Else just from talking to bob. I should be in a hazmat suit. Thats true. Lets go to dr. Siegel. You told me that you can use the same kind of quarantine they use for stars. And the National Institute of allergy and Infectious Diseases the most prominent Infectious Disease expert in the country he said theres a small chance it would spread here. Neither of these experts were worried about spread here. Should we be worried . I think theres cause for concern. I mean you have 190,000 flights coming in to jfk alone, 21 Million People a year. A lot of them coming from this region of the world. I will say this. In places like new york city they do practice alternative medicine. So you could have somebody come from one of these countries, go visit a Family Member and go see a nontraditional doctor. This is not unheard of if he comes with a Family Member. If somebody gets sick on a flight from jfk because its passed through bodily fluids. There shouldnt be hysteria. If you get it you have a 90 chance of dying. People who are caring these people are in hazmat suits. So if somebody has the ebola virus and are blocks away you probably wont get it but those who are caring for them are the ones in danger. I think its cause for concern and if this does start to spread, it will hurt our economy and it will hurt our health care system. No question. Now us a mentioned, greg, were testing to make sure someone with symptoms, anyone who goes into a hospital with flulike symptoms has to be tested to make sure its not a false positive. Its costly. The point you make and its a good point you have to actually come in to contact. If youre worried about ebola dont come in to contact. Dont go to west africa. I love you, brother, but i think its dangerous, dangerous to say lets calm the rhetoric down because we dont know. Yes, we do know. No, we dont know. Yes, we do. So far 900 people died in africa and could be more. Why did they die . We do know how they died. From retropractices. They wash their practices. Im glad they grounded their flights. It was foolish to bring two people with known ebola virus infection. You turn down a doctor who risked his life to save other peoples lives, you would turn him down. How sick is that . Bring the cdc there. Emory is a private institution that can treat them. If people want to go there listen i think its fantastic what he did as a christian. He was christianlike let him die over there. Thats what you said. Let me put it this way. Its my opinion. This is a debate show. As wrong as my opinion, according to you is, i think we need to know more. I think we need to know exactly if it is only transferred through bodily fluids and were not exactly positive. It has 90 mortality rate. 60 . Up to 90. 60 . Upwards of 90. Heres how its spread contact of secretion of the sick or corpses. There are in west africa the reason why its a large increase is because it started in rural areas which can be localize and isolated. I do like listening to the facts. I want to inject my opinion. Opinion needs to be based on fact. Im done. Bob . Go to my twitter. Part of the problem here is that this san african disease and we had aids out of africa, a number of diseases in west africa. There are no borders. Talk about borders people back and forth. The fact of the matter is when you start Something Like this and you start to ratchet it up too high whether you know it or dont know it you have to take into account siegel and others who understand these things the guy is safe. He went to emory but being treated by government doctors of the cdc. I had to burst your bubble on something. I think tuberculosis is a bigger problem than this is. I can understand erics point. We dont have all facts but we have enough to say heres a guy that did the right thing and get the right treatment here and i think everything will be fine. I dont think anybody ought to spread it beyond that. But can we agree were in unchartered territory here. Theres no question, i think, that people are they are freaking out and they want facts and they want information and thats why were covering this because its important and some people are asking the question and thats why were debating it why cant they people be treated offshore. Is there an opening for a military hospital. Should they be brought here. Theres cause for concern. My concern was these international flights, 21 International Passengers that may not seek medical treatment or throw up on a plane, there may be an incident like that. I dont want it to be pushed to the side completely because we dont know. Frankly i dont trust people who are in charge particularly here in new york city and the white house to get this thing under control. Let me bring dana in here. We say we dont understand this. Ebola has been around for 40 years. There have been outbreaks that end by using the tactics ever isolation and medical practices. The reason why this is different youre dealing with a culture that is superstitious of medical practice. Is there a reason why people is freaking out because the media is filling up space of hwith hysteria. Its possible that through them coming back, they basically have given their lives to take care of these people. They got sick. Came back. Because of the research being done on them we might get even closer to find a cure that would help people all over the world and thats something that still in america we might disagree about exceptionalism and our military but when it comes to medical diplomacy were still the best at it in the world. Remember that movie they had the african village and flew in a big bomb and blew the thing in. Somehow it got into california, the town in california and it spread. It was called ebola, i think. I bet every network will put that on the air now because its hot. Eric, last word, how does panic help. Im not saying panic. Be careful. Be smart. Wait until you have all the facts indiscriminately to bring these patients to the United States. Let me finish this one thought and ill shut up. Youre not making sense. We brought two people back. Governmentsponsored. It was controlled. Youre talking about two separate things. The concern is that people that are coming we dont know if they are sick. Thats my point. Youve been mixing the two which is why everybody is so frustrated. Really . I dont think we have enough information. Its not smart to willingly bring two people who have it back to the United States. Before you go ahead and say its okay and sound the all clear, you do things British Airways is very smart. They are not going to lose a ton of money. British airways would not have turned down a british doctor who was trying to save lives. Next on the five, a rise in antisemiism around the world. An update on the conflict in the middle east. Stay tuned. We never thought wed be farming wind out here. Its not just building jobs here, its helping our community. Siemens location here has just received a major order of wind turbines. It puts a huge smile on my face. Cause im like, this is what we do. the fact that iowa is leading the way in wind energy, im so proud, like, its just amazing. Noyou can watch live tv anytime. Its never been easier, with so Many Networks all in one place. Get live tv whenever you want. The xfinity tv go app. Now with live tv on the go. Enjoy over wifi or on Verizon Wireless 4g lte. Plus, now you get up to a 100 prepaid card when you purchase any new Verizon Wireless smartphone or tablet from comcast. Visit comcast. Com wireless to learn more one of the sadder by products of the conflict of israel and hamas is the trends of antisemiism throughout the world especially in europe. Protests have rocketed throughout the world in cities. Precedent show World Leaders should be more forceful in their condemnation of these acts. Our World Leaders in many cases have not stood up and told the truth as they know it to be. They have been pandering too top of the minority communities sometimes in their country ty s sometimes. Many think you can appease your way out. Going back to the 1930s when there was huge appeasement of hitler. Its moral cowardice. I spoke to a contact at the National Holocaust museum and he said consensus is antisemiism is worse now than it has been since world war ii. I want to start, greg with you, you said something the other day. The governments of these countries the official word from these countries is that they condemn such protests, they are trying to get information be more, i guess, asking them not to be antisemitic. The problem is its gone from government into the culture and how do you get it back out . Antisemiism arises as practitioners are tolerating the abysmal behavior of others. The person screaming kill the jews remains quiet about islamic mysogny and homophobia. You couple that with educated young adults infected on campus by professors who are also antiisrael, thats basically ebola spread by a pony tail. The amazing irony you have more hate going on the campus than you do in military Industrial Complex where people get along. Most of this hate i mean its cowardice because these critics think its brave to criticize israel. They know israel wont behead them on the street. They dont go after radical islam. None of the pop stars in england go after radical islam, they just rag on israel because they know they wont get killed. There was a band you cant support any more white family. Great band. But they went after israel and its like, you know what . Thats not brave thats stupid. Bob, jimmy carter today said that he believes that israel needs to recognize hamas as a legitimate political actor. This is a former president that doesnt seem too worried about his legacy in america but maybe around the world because im surprised you direct this question at me. Give us some insight as to what hes thinking. I think what hes thinking is first of all, can i comment on the antisemiism in europe. Certainly. This is not a new phenomenon. Its been growing in germany and france. These rightwing moments even before this all happened. When you couple that with fact that these countries that refuse stand up and Say Something about this are the same ones that allowed muslim residents to move into their country, france and germany and england and of course they are going to be worried about it. You cant just sort of bow down to these people and allow antisemiism happen. Whoever these kids were that did it on the church shouldnt have been hung but put away in jail for a long time. Now on carter, you have to say this. I think what hes thinking there was an election in gaza, a number of people from hamas who were elected. Now we mentioned on this show there should be another election. I think thats a good point. But they are in that sense, quote, a legitimate Political Force in gaza. They are terrorists. They are murderers. Now i dont know of another Political Force outside the nazis that would reach that conclusion, even the nazis were not elected fairly. But the hamas people were. So i think thats what he was thinking. I dont think the timing is the best probably not. Let me ask, eric, when you have this phenomenon thats growing and you have a former president of the United States kind of giving credibility to their arguments, how do you as culturally try to turn back the tide . Very interesting whats going on. Right . Historically jews in america have voted democrat. They lean left and vote democrat. Whats going on now with the conflict seems the conservatives, the republicans are backing israel in the conflict and pushing away from the left. If you watch msnbc and the other networks are more sympathetic to hamas or the gaza side and its very interesting. George soros big left wing nut job invested everything he had that had israel connection. Why is this . Why is the left now choosing to side with hamas and gaza. I cant figure it out. Remember i think it was two weeks ago when we were talking about christians and women and children being killed in mosul, Department Said it was concerned. Yesterday, it said it was appalled by actions by hamas. The language is different. It is different. Hamas is occupying gaza. Israel has said, look, its not that israel is saying there cant be a two state solution. But hamas mission is to obliterate israel. They dont believe they should exist. Why our position on terrorist organizations have changed. One thing if you want to have a debate about the palestinians and israelis. This is different because were talking about a terrorist organization. On Jimmy Carter Bob says i dont know what he was thinking. He wasnt thinking. Jimmy carter doesnt think. He said terrorism is a legitimate form of political expression. If we say that we have to say isis, al qaeda, hezbollah is a legitimate political actor. And introducing a bill in congress is just like what they are doing establish their political goals. I do want to say that this spread of antisemiism, i lived in paris for a long period of time and i saw this bubbling up of this northern african immigration that happened in the 1960s, it happened in england, france and germany. Bob is absolutely right. Now you have this culture where they are rising up. I do think that it is something to be deeply concerned about. Look at newsweek this week. Take it out of my block. I got to say one thing. I have to toss it to come on. I do. Well get right back. An update on the sad news of the day. Fox news confirmed the general killed in afghanistan was Major General harold green. His next of kin have been notified. Highest ranking american to die in action for our nation since the vietnam war. The pentagon Officials Say a man believed to an afghan soldier opened fire on a Training Camp near kabul this morning, as many as 15 people wounded. About half of the injured were americans and general green was killed. As for him, hes a native of upstate new york, received his commission as an engineer officer following his graduation in 1980. He holds a ph. D. From the university of Southern California in material science. His military education includes army war college. His awards include legion of merit with three oak leaf clusters, the Meritorious Service medal, Army Commendation medal, the Army Achievement medal and the Army Superior Unit award. According to the reporting of the the Washington Post newspaper hes survived by his wife susan and his sonoma enthusiast who serves today in the United States military in the army. Major general harold j. Greene died today in afghanistan. Im shepard smith. But if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. Prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. Because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. Plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. Celebrex can be taken with or without food. And its not a narcotic. You and your doctor should balance the benefits with the risks. All prescription nsaids, like celebrex, ibuprofen, naproxen and meloxicam have the same cardiovascular warning. They all may increase the chance of heart attack or stroke, which can lead to death. 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