Admitted on camera to nbc news that he tried to join isis. Someone has to defend islam. And somebody has to defend innocent muslims. I purchased a ticket with the intent of entering syria, joining up with medical and food aid convoys, or directly with the islamic state. A push came from being mistreated by people around me. Who didnt share the views i had. I think theres a strong possibility that theyll charge me with supporting terrorist organizations, and participating in terrorist activities. Wow. There are dozens of americans overseas right now fighting with isis. Heres our defense secretary. We are aware of over 100 u. S. Citizens who have u. S. Passports, who are fighting in the middle east with isil forces. There may be more. We dont know. So we learned this week, greg, the doj civil rights investigation, the fbi focused on nude photos of celebrities. Does it seem a little misguided with this isis Terror Threat . When you see footage of an american saying that he wants to join the fight with isis against america, on an American News network, its a little bit disconcerting. Yes, to talk about don morgan is, its a theres a clear trend here. All of these recruits are bona fide losers, radical islam is a loser magnet. Which is why i have to ask, why do we stop them from going . I will pay the ticket for any radicalized muslim in america to go to syria. And everybody should go, if you call that the martyr exchange program. We could all sponsor a terrorist and send them to their very own paradise. You notice these guys, theyre inferior beings because they feel that life has been rough on me, so i must go kill people. Generally if youre a holy person, youre okay with nonbelievers. Youre all right with that, because youre confident. These are not confident people. Theyre sad, pathetic little beings that deserve to die. Lets accelerate their deaths. Almost like a cash for clunkers, but a cash for camels. This one will work. It sounds very good. Dana, the defense secretary, theres hundreds of americans who could join this fight. Very troubling, and very different from the message of the white house. But the message of the white house has been all over the map. Also, this is just the last three weeks that this has actually been on americas on the front pages. For about two years, there have been almost 12,000 foreign fighters with western passports. Thats not necessarily american, but from western civilizations, that have been fighting and training in syria. It just it is obvious some of them have returned. Now, the past radicalization is not necessarily straight. So maybe when they come back theyre not actually going to blow up anybody. But i think being vigilant is the most important thing. To gregs idea, what if because one of the things that these people like don morgan are doing, theyre looking for travel deals online. So i think we should figure out a way to sweeten the pot, make those tickets really attractive, and then snag them and watch them walk away and leave them there so they cant get back. There are certain things we can do. We need to be as creative as they are. On somebody like this, if he knew, if he was in syria, and he were to find out about an american who was being held hostage who was about to be beheaded, i think he should be charged with treason and not allowed to come back to the United States. Eric, do you feel comfortable that the government is following these guys, that were doing everything we can to protect the homeland . The border issue, i know thats not the topic for this block, but it certainly plays a role. I think were underestimating whats going on right here in the homeland. We talked about that terror. They dont want to call it a terror cell, three jihadis come from the same town in minnesota, two of them went to high school together. The tsarnaev brothers. Theyre coming from here and coming from within and killing us. I think he should be charged with treason. Better yet, send him to gitmo and waterboard the hell out of him until he tells what he knows. We have a way of dealing with terrorists for a while. We decided that wasnt going to be nice enough to terrorists. So we stopped doing it. And look what happens. Its starting to sprout up again. We have dead americans, beheaded americans. Theyre not slowing down. Islamic terrorism isnt slowing down. Theyre not slowing down coming after americans. Theyre speeding up. And the Obama AdministrationValerie Jarrett goes to the Islamic Society of north america. And speaks to these people. They have a post to the hamas and muslim brotherhood. Were extending the outreach to them. When will c. A. R. E. Condemn not just acts of terror, when will they say hamas, muslim brotherhood, hezbollah, youre wrong, youre against everything we stand for and you should be stopped. And by the way, no sharia law should ever touch the shores of america. They wont go that far. The only positive thing i saw this week, c. A. R. E. Did condemn the beheading. The act. The act. Right. This is their time to lead. I dont see a lot of these organizations, i dont know how they dont condemn the act, when its so horrific. Bob, when you read the papers in new york city and follow it closely, we were hit on september 11th. There will be a number of jihadi suspects arrested in new york city. The nypd has been spying on mosques for any potential radicals. Bill de blasio, mayor of new york city, has shut that down. Do you think weve moved away, as eric said, from some of these very successful terrorbusting procedures here . Weve spent trillions of dollars on homeland security. Its paid off. From what i can tell, there seems to be a number of these incidents where weve intercepted them and stopped them. There were a couple that were highprofile and didnt go anywhere. I think the chance of these guys coming back in the United States, is highly unlikely. But this is, again, gets back to the point where you allow muslims to come into this country, with student visas, anything like that before, 15,000 never showed up at their schools, there are other instances of this. With england and france, we all have created muslim communities. And those muslim communities have flourished, and they have built mosques, and thats their right to do that. But it is not their right to carry out the terrorist organizations. Apparently theyre doing that. There is a pr effort, dana, which i want to ask you about. There was an oped penned by david cameron, in a little bit of political trouble himself. I think hes also doing this to save his own duff. They said that they vow not to be cowed by isis. For me, words are important, words matter, but its really actions and what theyre doing. Im concerned that were not taking all the appropriate steps, not just overseas, but back here at home. Weve been dancing around the Political Correctness of this issue. In england, that really hit home over the last week, when the case came to light with 1,400 young girls being systematically raped, abused, prostituted, by pedophiles, that were pakistani and bangladeshi for the most part. So the words certainly matter. I admire the west for how we try to handle assimilation. Of course were a society. We want you to be here, but we bent over backwards to the point were hurting ourselves. On the social media standpoint, i think thats where the pr battle is the most important. What were watching now, if twitter existed in the seventh century, this is how human beings treated each other. We have all evolved. They have not. The pr war gets even more important, because evil doers like the beheaders actually have phones. Some of these phones are connected to the countries that have nuclear weapons. Its totally different terrain. And the other part of the i think what obama and cameron could have said, is that think about unprecedented it is that we have now had, in the last two weeks, a british citizen killing by beheading an american citizen over a syrian civil war. That is what we have to come to terms with, that we are actually now we have americans, both british and americans actually fighting one another over a syrian war. The harshest words coming out of the administration, joe biden, but first just because you brought up the is it rotherdamn or rotterdam . The girls raped or sexually abused over a long period of time. Its actually women, their entire gig is about controlling and abusing women. Once women gain any power, it crumbles. They have to keep women covered. They have to keep women as third, fourth class citizens. It would be nice, it would be such a great thing if you see feminists rise up, and i would love to see an army of killer women that would whose sole job is to ice these people. Because theyre the number one threat to women worldwide. And feminists have to actually take the lead, and it would be great for the military to create specific you know, that actually exists in israel. Yeah, they have women fighters. And make them as ruthless and as almost as atrocious as they are. You know, we can be if you get us at the right moment. I know, if we touch your shoes, andrea can i touch on another issue. Thats kind of getting lost in the shuffle of all this. Iran. Were talking about an iran that wants to be Nuclear Capable to do whatever the heck they want to do. Theyre as fanatic as the isis islamic fundamentalists. Theyre just as bad. They have the whole structure between the religious side that wants to they want sharia everywhere. They want to promote sharia law around the world, around the globe. They want israel off the map. Weve heard them say it time and time again, to allow Nuclear Capabilities in iran, is just buying time before they become the next isis on a much bigger, and more financial iran and isis are opposed to each other. For now. Remember when isis was against syria . This is an issue that i think republicans and democrats should come together. Exactly what greg said, think about the antiwomen sentiment, the antigay sentiment. This is an opportunity for everybody to come together. But the harshest rhetoric has been from Vice President joe biden. Take a listen to the vp yesterday. Should know, we will follow them to the gates of hell until they are brought to justice. Because hell is where they will reside. Hell is where they will reside. Okay. Bret baier has a source who said this. Chase them to the gates of hell. How the blank are we going to do that when we cant even leave the front gate of our base. And colonel ralph peters last night said, really . We wont even krolgs the border into syria. Tough talk from the vp. But we go back to the words versus action. We put troops in to protect american facilities, which is exactly what were doing. If youre going to have a journalistic statement, you might have more than one source are you questioning bret baier . I dont know bret baiers source, thats the whole point. Are there two, three, four people saying the same thing . As i understand it you do agree that the message from joe biden delivered right there is vastly different from the message of president obama its vastly different from all of the politicians. Then call it that. I think that the followup to joe biden is, okay, then forget president obama for a moment, you, sir, what specifically then would you do . What are you willing to do to chase someone to the gates of hell . And id be interested. D. C. Is hell. I think the real one of the real enemies here is the complacency of a distracted country. Were ambivalent because were so successful. We have everything we need. We have the am bi am by a lens winner, but every day there are bombs dropped on them. Youre missing my point. Im talking as an american citizen, becoming as insane as they are. As finally scaring the hell out of those who scare us daily. Why arent we out in the streets waving flags and burning things . Why arent we burning effigies . We dont do it, because were complacent. We did it on september 12th, 2001. But weve gotten away from that. Until more americans die, thats when youll start to see more people rise up. It has a different ideology, thats what i think. He doesnt love and want to protect the United States. And thats the same who doesnt . President obama. Just read the cairo speech. Its all there. A look back at the life of joan rivers. 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Does your food go beyond . Learn more at purinabeyond. Com. Thousands of fast food workers walked off the job today in order to fight for a 15 minimum wage. Protests have been under way all day in more than 100 cities nationwide and dozens of arrests have been made. Democrats have been trying to use the minimum wage issue to garner votes in the upcoming midterm elections. Bob, after the poll came out yesterday, that that is not an issue that seems to be having too much of an impact. I think its marginally in the Africanamerican Community and probably Hispanic Community where a lot of people do do fast food. I certainly hope they get 15 an hour. I certainly hope i for one, not that it matters, i dont need it, but im not going to eat anything at a fast food joint for a week. I think anybody out there who has a conscience for that, are for it. But i dont think they can. On the politics side of it, i feel like the democrats continue to push for this for something that is not going to be voted on this year, or the next two years. Possibly it will be in the states. But theres not going to be a vote by harry reid in the senate theyre raising votes and not fulfilling promises to people. Couldnt they be doing other things that would put more money into the pockets of people that do work for minimum wage . On the first part, yes, he has to have the unions, they spend 97 of their donations that go to democrats. Thats the hat tipping them this week. And hell move on to the next, probably immigration after Congress Comes back from their next fiveweek vacation. And after the election. So this is how they get that check that box. Talking about what raising the artificially raising the wage does. Heres what happens. The supplyanddemand curve, thats the wage that the free market, the fair value of an hours worth of work is worth to an employer and to a worker. When you artificially raise it, what you do is you create more supply of labor, more people want to get that higher wage and it on that same curve, when you do that, you drop the demand for it. Its more expensive for a company to hire people. When you drop demand for labor, thats the definition of unemployment. Thats what youre doing. Youre going to raise the wages but drive the people into the unemployment line, no question. What you really need to do is move the demand curve. Make the demand for labor more robust. Thats called growth. When you do that, automatically, along the supply demand curve, you increase wanls and do it from the right way, not the artificial way. Thats what you were saying, greg, in the green room. Poor cities would be hurt worse by this. He had the whole supply i didnt get with my english major. Like, this would hurt poor areas harder than not so poor areas, because a 10 wage is different in every part of town. The increase may be larger in one area of a town which would cost more jobs. Because the gap is larger. You would have to hire less. In a weird way, you would actually hurt the town that needs the help the most by eliminating jobs. Lets face it, the job of a unionist is strictly to expand a union. Its a selfperpetuating organism. Its not interested in helping these people, theyre just interested in helping themselves. Oh, come on. The unions are responsible for so many assets we have in this country. I agree with you, bob, years ago. But now its changed. And the pendulum has swung. Thats why unions are fading. It has changed. I do agree with you, bob, there are some good things that unions do. You can understand why they want higher wages and why they want the best working conditions for their workers. I get that. I think what really ticks people off is when they see the unions negotiating these deals in the white house. Like the obamacare law. Only to then exempt themselves from the deals. So they push these laws on everybody else, but then say, you know what, we want no part of this after they subject all of us to it. Thats another huge problem that i think lets go back to this thing. The last state a number of states have above 10 an hour minimum wage. Ive not seen one person lose a job as a result of it. That is the most ridiculous comment. Number one where are they . If you increase the isis is behind the push, i believe. Increase the cost of labor, to any business, a burger joint or Manufacturing Company or a real estate company, if you increase the cost of labor, you have to do one of two things. Drive the price of the product up or reduce the hiring. Companies arent becoming more prosperous. I think also without profits, you dont have taxes, bob, then where would we be. Thats true. The benefits of raising the minimum wage and consequences are exaggerated by both sides. Because of the other policies of the of this current administration, not to mention the cities and the states, on energy and health care, if you are a minimum wage worker and are able to get more money into your bank account every month, that will then be eaten up by the cost in taxes and regulations. So i feel like its empty promises. I think you made the best point when you said this is basically a lie. Unless the states do it theyre not going to do this. So what youre seeing is the Democratic Party open up the playbook and do the baseginning activities, right . Immigration. Well get the hispanics out to vote, right . Minimum wage will do this. Check the box. And then the doj civil rights investigators. Theyll try to get states to pay the minimum wage. On the four is