Enemy far greater than al qaeda if we lift iraq too soon. Today he spoke to fox news for the first time about that ominous warning and the state of of iraq today. You knew it in 2007. In fact this is george bush, president george bush in 2007 before the surge. Begin withdrawing before our 5bn jh . 2 oy,lmtjal would be dangerous. It would mean wed be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. It would mean increasing the probability that american troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous. How did you know . Well, i know the nature of the enemy. Anybody who kills 3,000 innocents and beheads people because of their religion or because of their point of view is dangerous. Democracy takes time to take hold, and yet theres an impatience with that process. The lesson of 9 11 is still important today as it was right after 9 11. Also what does he think about president obamas decision to pull our troops out and let terrorists take over the country. Heres more from 43. Reporter Martin Dempsey says its well known the military recommended that we leave a residual force of 10,000 to 15,000, maybe more. Did you feel the same way . I did, yeah. I agreed with general dempseys assessment. Well open it to you because we have a lot of sound from president bush. Your thoughts on really the first comments since he really predicted what was going on now back in 2007. You have to understand where im coming from. I dont think any of this would have happened if we hadnt gone to war in iraq. Saddam hussein had done things that were bad but not nearly as bad as these guys. Qy8rzn c rkwwebvasy 7wovi1 to give testimony to the u. N. About why there were weapons of mass destruction. The question really is could 10,000 or 15,000 people have been there and for how long, 10, 20, 30, 40 years and would that really have stopped this . I think it was a bad decision to go in. The end product is were seeing it today. Maybe the bad decision was to pull out too soon and as we pointed out, george bush predicted that if we had let the residual force in iraq maybe we wouldnt have americans beheaded. If you read Thomas Jocelyn who writes about the enemy, the grand plan was to build out from afghanistan al qaeda. Now you have all these other groups that have metastasized that are being called other names but the truth is it is all al qaeda. Theres two things basically. What president bush is saying when he agrees with general dempsey, its no different than what secretary gates, secretary clinton, secretary panetta and general petraeus have all said, the first three of those all in books so theyre on record saying that they disagree with the president s decision to leave iraq at the time or not to leave more of a force there. Bob, that is true. I dont know why youre breathing heavy, but thats true. Im listening to you. He breathes heavy all the time. You can see from my point of view hes breathing deep. Those are facts. The only people who seem to think that was not a good idea were obama, biden and susan rice. Now, thats their prerogative but there are consequences for decisions, as youre seeing. The second thing i wanted to mention is we cut the sound bite a little bit too early because i liked the second part of what president bush said. In regards to the lesson after 9 11 is that americans need to understand the west needs to understand that the human condition around the world matters. And it matters to our national security. That is the broader Foreign Policy thinking of the bush administration. I think its also important, the president didnt give an interview today to talk about this per se, of course he knew he would be asked about it, i guess. The purpose of inviting them down there was to talk about the Fourth Annual 2015 warrior open that is a big Golf Tournament that supports iraqi and Afghanistan War veterans. Let me bring these guys in. We have a lot more sound to get to. Thoughts on that first interview. To bobs point, we have placed troops in countries for decades after wars so its something that we do to maintain the peace and sometimes it lasts a long time. That war had been won, but it wasnt obamas war to win, so it 0qmrvxvi;wb 0y h7 . Ag . รท[hm[ t somebody had left the shower curtain behind, but that wasnt his shower curtain so he just got rid of it. Thats what he did with the iraq war. Let me get k. G. On this one. Go ahead. I just take issue with taking that shot at president bush and trying to disparage him where hes been nothing but a gentleman and a class act, been unbelievably respectful and empathetic to the difficult job that president obama had. Hold on, thats a great transition to the next one. What does president bush think of president obama allowing isis to rise in iraq. Listen. The president has to make the choices he thinks are important. I am not going to second guess our president. I understand how tough the job is. And to have a former president , you know, second guessing is i dont think good for the presidency or the country. Does president obama call you . He called me to tell me that the nation killed Osama Bin Laden or the srchl. E. A. L. Te got Osama Bin Laden, for which i was grateful. But hes been no, hes not on a regular basis, which is okay. It doesnt hurt my feelings. Its a decision he has made. I want to get to danny in a second, but go ahead. He goes on to say that he understands president obama has developed a relationship over six years with people that he trusts and seeks counsel in so this is the bigger man saying i dont mind. If he needs me, im here. The point is theres always lessons to be learned from history and past president s have a history of contacting their predecessors. And with respect to president bush, you didnt see him take a shot and say, told you so. I was right about this. We should have done we should have finished the job by allowing the iraqi people to have the benefit of ongoing support so that we could have not made what the veterans fought for in vain. Just out of curiosity, what former president s consulted other president s for big decisions. He did. For what . Bill clinton said that bush called him. Yeah . Theres one. Twice a year. Generally president s dont yeah, theres a history of it. The reason, bob, in the wall street journal there was a column by Bret Stephens on tuesday in which it suggested that president obama could benefit with a call to president bush or having a relationship with him but that is based on reports from mostly bill clinton but president bush commented on it as well that bush and clinton developed a good working relationship and a friendship and camaraderie during the bush administration. That continues to this day. The bottom line is president obama took the surge personally and punished us naturally because of a petulant, adolescent reaction. Can you explain to me you say this over and over again. This war was won. How do you mean it was won . The surge worked. There was a vote. There was democracy, there was calm. There was a surge and then it all went to hell. What about corruption. Corruption is around in every start of every country, we know that. But if corruption but because the men and women that served the country valiantly felt that they had achieved the goal and everybody who was there that was on the ground knew that we needed to keep the position strong so that they could continue to succeed, otherwise its like pulling the sheet out from under them. Lets bring this to the today and now, to terror right here at home. There was a jihadstyle beheading here in america a few days ago and the administration can still only call it workplace violence. But listen closely to a man megyn kelly spoke to last night. He says he attended the same mosque where the oklahoma suspect worshipped and the terror was taught there. To the public, the mosque will not promote terrorism or any kind of radical acts, but when theyre among friends and congregants only, they will teach islam which will include the offer to nonmuslims, the choice, rather, that you must convert, live under islamic rule, or be fought against. Jihad for the sake of allah. He also exposes the congregations true feelings about bin laden and those horrific beheadings. I had two friends at the mosque. One of them is now an imam. The men told me that if Osama Bin Laden came to their door, they would invite him in and protect him because he was a brother muslim and we must protect him from those that dont believe. Did they ever discuss the subject of beheadings . Was that ever discussed . The only time that beheadings were discussed was in the means at which you confront the infidel. When you meet the unbelievers, you should smiet at their necks. We didnt even need to hear it from him. If this victim was already dead, which i think she was, why did he behead her . Because what would be the point . The point is was to spread terror, to send a message. And that makes it terror. So why dont we just compromise and call it workplace terror. Just get rid of the violence. Lets all agree and say it happened at the workplace, its terror. By the way, were so focused on his actions, but in hate crimes, were always focused on intent. Why is it with this crime its all about the action and not the intent . The opposite with hate crimes. The thing about this is, and ive been saying this for a long time, a lot of this stuff is going on in a lot of mosques. They raise money for terrorists. Some, not all of them, but a lot of them preach a brand of islam that is not acceptable. But this is not new to me. You know, we were pu and i dont think we should have and theyre training a lot of people. But i dont think you can say all mosques. No, i said some of them. No. I mean, look, this is again further evidence and further proof. To pick up on what youre talking about, yeah, why wouldnt we take him at his word that describe his intent. What his actions were combine wed what was in his mind and his ideology about committing jihad. A symbolic then if in fact she was deceased to cut her head off. Thats exactly what he was trying to achieve in that moment. Take him for his word and his actions. One of the things i really liked about seeing that and appreciating the interview is that right before it, they talked they had a reporter out there to the mosque representative, you were about you said you would talk to us and all of a sudden you changed your mind. The reason that interview i think is important is that you have very little communication coming out of the mosque. Thats why there has been the need to do some sort of surveillance at times that they think was a specific threat. An infiltration. That was on the merits. So this information that we get firsthand from somebody that was actually there and then goes back, that he reveals last night because of a Law Enforcement request is very interesting. Shes going to have a second part tonight. I dont know if she asked but im curious about this question. What led him to the mosque in the first place . What was it that he was this guy . What was he looking for . I think that would give us even a different picture. And did he come in contact with someone who specifically encouraged him or put the idea in his head. Its all about them inspiring and reaching out and further the tentacles of terror. And obviously i know the answer to this question, but why do you have to be in silhouette . You have to be in silhouette because if youre a whistleblower in a mosque about islam, youre likely going to be the next one beheaded. Youre doa. Think about all the other whistleblowers that are on tv. They talk about exposing corruption in the government or exposing corruption in a business or a company. But if you expos terrorism in a mosque, youre likely risking your life for it. Either that or had a bad hair day. It looks like he was wearing a cap. Should we go . Well go. Before we go, a programming note, dont miss gretas big interview with the Prime Minister of israel. He warns about the dire threat of global jihad. Heres a peek. The problem is that militant islam is trying to dominate the middle east and then take over the world. Its number one target ultimately is the United States. They view all these branches, shiites, radical shiites, radical sunnis, they see you as the great state. They call us the small state because were just a frontal position, a forward position of the United States. They want to destroy us so they can get to you. Thats 7 00 p. M. Eastern tonight. Coming up, instead of focusing on the jihad crisis, our president is focusing today on helping his party win the election. Dana is all over that here on includes 37 of democrats. With the midterms fast approaching, the president is trying to convince voters otherwise, at least when it comes to the economy. He spoke today. We can and should be proud of the progress that our country has made over these past six years. It is indisputable that our economy is stronger today than when i took office. I said we would rebuild our economy on a new foundation for growth and prosperity and with dedicated, persistent effort weve actually been laying the cornerstones of this foundation every single day since. Okay. So, eric, let me start with you, our financial expert. Is it not true that you are in every recession the country does better six years later. The question is how relative it is to growth and its potential. The most important thing is growth and how soon do you get back to normal growth. It took us six years and we may not be there. Heres the point, though. President obama used those words. Its indisputable and then went on to say by every economic measure america is better off. He said lets deal in facts. Mr. President , i listened to your speech. Ill deal in facts if you want. These are apples to apples comparisons from the day he took over to today. Median Household Income is down. Thats a fact. Household ownership rate is down. Thats a fact. Gasoline prices are up. Way up, thats a fact. Milk prices are at an alltime high. Up, way up. And the number of americans receiving food stamps is way, way up. We know the numbers about Labor Participation of course Labor Participation rates is down. I can name 20 different facts that are disputable that america is better off. How about some of these facts. All im saying is hes saying lets deal in facts, say its indisputable. It is indisputable. Are you saying the country is not better off than 2008 . Hows this. Go to our facebook, the five fan facebook page, whatever it is right now, facebook. Com and ill put all the facts up that show that were not better off. Do you mind if i share a few facts too. The number of jobs have grown from 215,000 at a faster pace since 1999. Theres been no inflation. The stock market is up. Profits are up across the board. Still, the wages on wait a second, i thought you would hate that. What . Profits. You just had a 400,000 person march against profits. Geez, louise. He wants to say the economy is on an upward trajectory. So are north Korean Missile tests. Its never happened. Hes making middle class households poorer. If making people poorer is progress, he is a progressive. Its incredible. I just dont get it, bob, when you say youre for profits one day and youre not the next. I am always for profits. Im not against profits. Throwing a flag on the play. I know profits are necessary for growth. Im not a communist, despite what you may think. You have admitted to being a communist. Well, i said that in jest. Not this week. The point is that he has got the right political thing to do is to move to the economy. Hes got some things he can talk about, things he can brag about and thats what the democrats need. What i think theyre missing and im curious where it is, maybe kimberly well get you in on this, which is the bigger idea. So lets stipulate that, okay, so we were in a financial crisis and a panic in the fall of 2008. The president takes over. Six years later the country im saying the polling says that they dont feel like its good enough. So where is the big idea . I see the minimum wage piece. Other than that, what is the president talking about . I didnt see anything else that was new today. No, of course not but this is only the material that he has to work with. Somebody is like here are the cue cards, these are the things we can hit, you have to pivot to the economy. Its a very typical obama policy speech. Hes got to seize on what he can because midterms are coming up so this is a point of crisis. He has to go for what at least he can have something positive to say. The problem is, the public, the American People, the voters arent buying it, so theres a disconnect. So hes just hoping that perception is reality if he says it enough. Just so you know, the fox news poll read the exact question. Voters dont agree with the president s assessment that the country is better off. They dismiss the president s boast as mostly false by a 5836 margin. That includes 37 of democrats. It was not about their own economic situation. But, bob, the president who asked who posed the question that way. Actually we were just quoting the president in that question. I want to roll this because the president took a little bit of personal shot at this Network Today in a speech. Take a look. Theres a reason fewer republicans, you hear them running around about obamacare. Because while good, Affordable Health care might seem like a fanged threat to the freedom of American People on fox news, it turns out its working pretty well in the real world. Greg, have you gotten under his skin . He bashes at fnc more than isis. If theres anybody in the media that likes the fact that its not them that hes angry at, you shouldnt be because that means youre a wuss. Youre a plient servant in his harem. Were the only network that actually tries to challenge him. Can i ask you a question . Everybody around this table said six months ago, particularly eric, i dont know a single republican thats making a case on obamacare and i dont know any democrats i dont know what youre reading because a lot of people are not make it a singular issue but its one of many issues. But this was supposed to be the singular issue. Because why would you stick with one . There are ten issues. Irs, ebola, the southern border. Is ebola his fault too . [ overlapping speakers ] the president gets blamed for im not going to stop yelling. That fox news cuff wasnt off the cuff. That was written. We got a copy of that speech and someone actually wrote that line, so wherever they put the speeches together they took a shot at us. If i would