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FOXNEWSW The Five December 8, 2014

Has assessed that this will cause violence and deaths. The white house, even admits its going to put americans and others abroad in great danger. But the president wants this report made public nonetheless. There are some indications that the release of the report could lead to a greater risk that is posed to u. S. Facilities and individuals all around the world. So the administration has taken the prudent steps to ensure that the proper security precautions are in place. That said, the administration strongly supports the release of this declassified summary of the report. The president believes that on principle, its important to release that report so that people around the world and people here at home understand exactly what transpired. On the eve of the reports released, there is one president standing up for the cia. Were fortunate to have men and women who work hard at the cia, serving on our behalf. These are patriots. And whatever the report says, if itti it diminishes their contribution to our country its a disservice. Dianne feinstein, the senator has made her decision, but it was just on friday that the secretary of state john kerry personally called her and asked her to delay the release of it. Because of all the list of horribles that the president was just talking about. Everything they did was effective. That was not just coming from me, it was coming from people like leon panetta and wrote also about it in his book. We did not get to the point in our country where president obama could say in his reelection, al qaeda is on the run by accident. There are reasons and methods that were done to do this. I guess at this point, i realize that the report is going to come out. Dianne feinstein, she was a part of that original gang of 8, along with pelosi and others. It is curious to me, why why she felt it was necessary to reclassify and not share it with people on other committees or both democrats and republicans, and in closed sessions, i can understand that, im for that the type of democracy, but its not that youre hearing from republicans that we are worrieded about loss of life, therefore dont issue this report, youre actually hearing this from our allies, countries that made really good decisions to help america deal with terrorists all over the world and that we were able to track down because of their help. So i dont wablgtd to daxwan dance around it. America was on our heels, we didnt know what to do, and the cia came forward aggressively interrogated some terrorists. If its tactics they dont like in the obama administration, if we dont like you, well change you next time if we find out were not as safe as we were under george bushs presidency. These guys are bad guys, they have shown that theyre terrorist. I have said that im in favor of waterboarding because it works. You may not like the process, but it made people turn over information that made us safer. You should say, these are the tactics that we used to use. These are the tacticses you will not be subject to if you blow up america. People already hate us, they hate us anyway. Whats the point in releasing it, when there can be far greater harm than good. Just for the sake of transparency. I guess im to get intel squlens that we can act on in real time, theyre putting their lives at risk. And you have not only the United States and intelligence officials saying this, our allies are also joining in the request to withhold this information, what good can come from it now, jesse . The timing of it, Jonathan Gruber is supposed to testify obvious the hill. Theres no coincidence its a huge distraction. Look what happened, bush water boarded terrorists, obamas releasing terrorists. Dana was right, look what happened, they were briefed on this in 2002, pelosi, all those people didnt say anything until it became politically opportune. Now you have people coming out and saying, this is a big deal, i dont understand because its hypocrital kl. You can take people out with drone attacks in other countries, but you dont want to capture them, put them in a tropical place and give them a koran and let them play socker . They used valid interrogation techniques that was able to get us actionable intelligence. Thats the part i dont understand. Bob, what would you like to say . I think that a lot of this information has been out and made public already and so its not going to become a lot of news here. I dont blame them for saying, be careful when this comes out, although i think thats a state of readiness that already exists. Allies theyre talking about are countries like saudi arabia, who clandestinely took certain prisoners and did the kinds of things to them that we as americans would not do. I think if youre going to do something in the name of the American Public, then the American Public as a right to know what youre doing. And what youre doing in my view, not object nly is it out realm, inconceivable to theyre kept up for 24 hours straight, they play loud music, thats bad and we shouldnt be doing it. But they should be able to kill 3,000 people in downtown manhattan. Its not just about the interrogations, but about renditions, which means you capture someone and instead of bringing them to the United States, you bring them to another state. That is the concern of allies that have had information passed to us or that we passed information to them. The europeans that are worried about the interrogation tactics, they benefitted from the information they provided. Over the objections, the white House Counsel at the time, bill clinton and al gore overruled that and told the cia to do exactly what they had to do to protect americans. And they did the job. In addition to this, it comes at a time when we are dealing with increased threats, isis, al qaeda 2. 0. This is not an empa sis of homeland security. There are lives on the line, people that are not just kerry mathis mathison. People who spend their entire lives dedicated to the country to protect us, things we will never know what they have done to protect us so that we can have the benefit of the ely ely have now. When you have the president of brazil who cancelled a state dinner with the United States over just the gathering of intelligence, of other countries, this to me is so much worse. Take a listen. First of all, the cia workforce will feel as if it has been tried and convicted in absencea, since the Senate Democrats and their staff d talk to anyone actively involved in the program. Bob, there are countries out there who have cooperated with us on the war on terror, at some political risk, who are relying on american discretion. I cant imagine anyone out there Going Forward in the future who would be willing to do anything with us that even smacks of political danger. So there are direct repercussions that we will see, not only to lives of our people that engage in covert operations that need cover to do their job effecti effectively. Now america is the biggest kiss and tell. What youre saying is people are not going to be willing to do what they shouldnt have been done in the first prays. Number two, you said that al qaeda was not december natured, they were spread out all over the reason and now because of this theyre gone. I was making a point of what president obama when he said that al qaeda is dead and buried. I know you and i have both said were in agreement with president obamas drone program, right. Yes. Okay, so its okay to find a guy who you said was a bad guy, take him out with a drone and kill him, thats better than capturing and bringing him back, yep, youre leaning on him hard, make him stay up, pour water on him, get some intel, than kill him. Its better than sending him to saudi arabia to torture chambers that are notorious. Im talking about the gitmo enhanced interrogation technique that the cia used to get intel to keep the country safer. You think that was worse than taking the same people, and instead of bringing them back, just kill them. Certain people, youre not going to be able to get. Yes or no . All right, you know who started the rendition on the black side . Bill clinton and al gore. You know what obama did . He carved out an exemption which allows him to water board terrorists in a ticking time bomb situation. Because after 9 11, there was a ticking time bomb situation every single day. Im certain thats not the right thing to do. Do what . Pour water on their faces . Which the navy s. E. A. L. S have done to themselves while theyre in training. Maybe thats what hillary meant when she said she wanted to empathize with the enemy. She doesnt like the three people that got water boarded. If you dont like my view, you dont like my view, thats what im saying. I love your view. Rolling stone may have issued an apology to its readers, but should the magazine be held accountable for its uncorroborat uncorroborated account . That its given me time to reflect on some of lifes biggest questions. Like, if you could save hundreds on Car Insurance by making one simple call, why wouldnt you make that call . See, the only thing i can think of is that you cant get any. Bars. Ah, thats better. Its a beautiful view. I wonder if i can see mt. Rushmore from here. Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance. vo rescued. Ed. Protected. Given new hope. 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With Rolling Stone blowing the whistle on someone that maybe wasnt actually raped, the next person that comes forward and says i have this problem, this should be exposed, they go, well, Rolling Stone had a problem with it, were going to steer away from it. Its something that needs to be talked about and something that needs to be fixed. I hope its not on the Rolling Stone that something doesnt get fixed. Shopping for the story, going for this narrative that she wanted to put out, about a very serious problem that should be addressed. People are going to be wondering, doubting, terrible fallout in this kind of story. Now theyre investigating other stories that she did as well. Sometimes sorry isnt good enough, this is one of those instances. They actually sought out the reporter to write a piece about campus rape because they thought it would be compelling. And he said he had an initial doubt when he first saw her reporting, but then he hasnt explained what happened. Biassed reporting is one thing, if you have facts to back it up. But in this case, take it in the context of where they were writing the story, there had been the release of stories of a number of rapes at university of virginia that had been covered up. Im sure Rolling Stone was saying, look this is all going on u now, lets put ours in the middle of this thing. And that may have dampened the other people that did get raped. Im not surprised that another News Organization would jump on this, the problem is that they jumped on it taking one source, the same newspaper that had that woman who got the pulitzer pride by writing a story about a woman in the ghetto and then that got exposed as being untrue. After the story, jesse that ran in Rolling Stone, the uva immediately suspended all fraternities and sororities until january, there was rumors that they were even thinking of ending them all together. Those fraternities and sororities have gotten together and said we would like to be reinstated. Do you think they should be. Yes, and they will be. This guy yon, i think theyre going to slegt this guy. Hes got a ton of leverage in the business. I dont think o be knocking down this guys door. So hes trying to be quiet and remain quiet. As far as them getting reinstated, they should bchl. Hes friends with everybody. Youve seen him out in the hamptons, im sure. Can you imagine the amount of people that he owes . I was on a low rent for the hampt hamptons. Theyre all friends, they have all been to his place. Maybe the fallout will be that all of us will be a little bit more skeptical when we see a Rolling Stones story. Coming up, is president obama uniting or dividing the country with his remarks about racism in america. Youll hear that next. s a ques when electricity is generated with natural gas instead of todays most used source, how much are co2 emissions reduced . Up to 30 . 45 . 60 . The answer is. Up to 60 less. And thats a big reason why the u. S. Is a world leader in reducing co2 emissions. Take the energy quiz round 2. Energy lives here. Racial tensions in america have been high over the past few weeks. President obama is only stirring things up. Listen to this new remark. When youre dealing with something as deeply rooted as racism or violence in any society, its going to take some time. So he thinks america is rooted in racism. According to a new poll the majority of americans think Race Relations have gotten worse since the president took office. We have made all kinds of efforts to improve race relat n relations in this country. We have bent over backwards. Is there a we have people to whom the truth is relative. The president taking sides in this in a way that further divides the country i find reprehensible and very unfortuna unfortunate. Obamas racial track record, how much responsibility do you think he has. He had the reverend wright controversy right out of the gate. He sided against the cop in cambridge. How much responsibility does the president have. Hes got not just the responsibility, but its incumbent on him as the leader of the free world, the president of the United States, the commander in chief, to instill and restore order. What a unique opportunity in history this president had. And how did he blow it . Because all hes done with, and i really feel strongly about this, with eric holder pokes the cage saying americans are racist, cops are racist, were not doing a good enough job. Look at the problems in ferguson, that could have been, maybe not completely prevented but not as bad as it ultimately ended up being, and now we see riots in berkeley, say lets focus on the positives and the accomplishments, how much we have done in this country by having the Civil Rights Movement like bob talks about. Republicans are afraid to say anything critical of the president , because theyre going to get smeared as a racist. Do you understand why a lot of americans dont like to talk about race . As usual, we selectively e t edited what obama said there, he said Race Relations have gotten a lot better in the last 50 years, but our editors chose to take that out. He said that the ferguson riots has done no good. One thing he has never said is that americans are racist. One of the things he has done, he has surrounded himself with a lot of individuals. Listen to what was said about racial leadership on fox news channel. I cant tell you how outraged i am with president obama and these socalled black leaders who are whipping up entertainment, sports, politics, obama is in a unique position, he could have united our country, but unfortunately, he has made matters worse. Eric, do you agree with that . He surrounded himself with people like holder and sharptop. Thats president obamas fall, not necessarily what hes saying, but who hes associated with. Al sharpton literally said that he was going to be the one who was going to pick the real black leders are the thousands or more black pastors and ministers across the country, theyre the ones who go to the pulpit every sunday and talk. Those are the people that president obama should be surrounding himself. Those are the people we should be putting on the fox news challenge and talking to them because those are the people who have the pulse on what the black community thinks. The more he continues to race bait and continue the rhetoric, black people are saying, okay, thats not helpful. The families in ferguson said, al sharpton, youre not helpful anymore. The politicians and the race baiters who are using these events to make their point, theyre not representing the vast majority of black people anymore. We need to really expose, what true black people in america are thinking, not al sharpton or de blasio or the other bozos. You have the president trying to rally a base, trying to turning out black voters. I dont think Race Relations are as bad as maybe it feels to some people. However, it is hard to argue with that poll. The numbers show that 523 of americans think Race Relations are worse today than they were before. And that is something that if inin the white house, we may be thinking, okay, we have got two years to try and turn that poll arrange and get those numbers to where we want them to be. They have still got opportunities to do that, i just dont know if theyre going to take it. Imagine the people that do think Race Relations are worse . I think obama did have an opportunity, he did not take it. One of these days we will keep in mind that he is not a race baiter. If we had the clip that had the whole of what obama said about race. Were not going to play a 10minute clip on to the is it a good idea to have al sharpton at the white house . Yes or no. Yes or no, is it selective lie right . The audience can go on the internet and look at it, and it was not edited. He was supposed to be eaten live on national television, but he was only bitten alive. Are are viewers disappointed . Then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. I was trying to like, pull it a little further got me to 70 years old im going to have to rethink this thing its hard to ima

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