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FOXNEWSW The Five December 17, 2014

The u. S. Will establish an embassy in havana, it will be easier for americans to travel to cuba. Nobody represents American Values better than the american people. Marco rubio, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and the son of cuban immigrants said obamas decision will do nothing to help cubans who suffer under a communist regime. One of my greatest hopes is to live to see the nation of cuba and its people become free and open and democratic. And thats exactly why todatod announcement from the white house continuously abuses human rights, but it will not lead to assistance to those whose rights are being abused. It is just another concession to a tierny be the Obama Administration. Bob menendez had some equally tough words for president obama. I fear that todatodays act also put at risk the thousands of americans that Work Overseas to support civil society, to advocate for access to information, to promote humanitarian services and promote democratic reforms. As to the president s broader policy announcements, i believe that it is misguided and fails to answer the nature of the regime in cuba that has exerted its authoritarian control over the cuban people for 55 years. We should start by saying that we welcome home allan goss, he is a jewish aid worker, he was trying to help the cuban people and he had been held by the cuban government for many years. In fact he was the subject of several one more things on this program as we helped support his family and were very glad that he is home back in his country, and with his family especially at this time of the holidays. There are some strong arguments on both sides of this. This ended allan grosss imprisonment, but at the same time, with a snap of the finger, president obama announced a normalization of relations with cuba, how where do you sit on this . Because i have a feeling you might have a view that is interesting to people. So, immediately after it came out, there were a lot of conservatives saying what is he doing . Obama, here he is, getting close to another communist country, another communist leader. Im not on that bandwagon, i think this is a fantastic policy move by president obama, it was a long time coming. I love the idea of opening relations, opening markets with cub cuba, its 90 miles off our shore, were their number one food supplier, we supply a huge portion of the food they consume, and were number 46 in the list of their export markets. That will only expand. This i think is a fantastic idea. Before anyone just goes crazy at me for this. Think about this for a second. We trade with china actively, china is one of our biggest trading partners, chinas communist for the most part. They have a capital communism bent to them, they also have human rights violations, japan dropped bombs on us in 1944, 1945, and were still trading with them as well. This time a pro free marketeer. I think he had no choice, though, but to make this deal, with Oil Prices Going down, this could lead to economic collapse for cuba, for venezuela, so the time was right to have this i only hope that the people in cuba will only benefit from this, just like to the people of the United States, the economies will benefit. I at the same time abhor their dictatorial are jet stream. That is whats driven people like senator marco rubio and senator menendez, whose families have fled cuba, not so much of the the markets and the United States benefit, but about the people of cuba. Thats why its been so hard to get this done in congress until now. Theyre not even going through congress. I tell you whats been hard, its been hard because the cuban american lobbyists have been very strong throughout the years, its now getti tin ting diminished, we trade with china, we trade with saudi arabia, much more human rights violators. Right now if there was ever a time to move in and do this, now is the time to do it, and the potential for the United States is enormous. Do you think this is the first step, as he is the lame duck in his last two year years reorder diplomatic relations with countries that we have had as foes for many years . I am in the middle, i like the idea of normalization, because its another place for me to drink, its another warm beach that i can throw up on. And i like that. What about the people . Also im tired of people bragging about their rare cuban cigars, now we can all get the cuban cigars. Im sick of the guy at the bartebar telling me how much this cigar cost. The reason cuba is different is because theyre in our hemisphere and for the past few years, thiey have been jerks. For 50 years, they have treated their people terribly, awful. I agree with you, the sanctions havent worked and it is time for a change. But we have to walk into this with our eyes wide open. We have to walk in and say what the hell are we getting out of this . And this is where im going to answer your question about obama. Im circumspect about any swap me does. Im thinking hes going to put i just dont think he makes good deals. However there is a deal to be made. I want to see, unlike the left on twitter, i want to see starbucks there, i want to see a bank on every corner. But everybodys saying, oh, capitalism, as if thats worse than a squalid dictator ship, if you look at the pictures of Downtown Historic havana, it looks like a bombed out dresden. The idea that the businessmen are very refineded. And i would like to make this point again, the spanish in this country, the cubans and mexicans and Puerto Ricans have never exactly agreed on things, particularly this issue. What about the process of this, eric, which is once again, president obama not going through a new congress to see if they can get something done, but instead going in front of them and instead going, now i want to work with you afterwards . Does that cause problems going into to the next two years. He promised he was going to do this, remember he talked about this four years ago, he said that was one of the things he would love to see, a normalizing, by the way its not free and open trade just yet. Were going to work our way into it. Jayz and beyonce are happy. There will probably be some Business Opportunities in cuba. But the guy that comes from cuba says he doesnt like the deal, he may never have gotten this through congress, through senate, so he went ahead and did it. Am i hypocrite dl to say i dont like what he did with immigration, but i do like this, call me a hypocrite, ill accept that, but in this case, its very, very good for u. S. Business, its fantastic for u. S. Agriculture. Theyre going be able to produce more. Already were sending a ton of soybeans and corn. Not for russia. Because were cutting into their influence. If only president obama could articulate it in that manner, because what we hear from him ask its the right thing to do and that drives me nuts. We have been we have been wrong for 50 years, now its the right thing to do, again, that invites suspicion. Youve got to tell us why we were wrong. I mean, look. Saying its for the greater good brought us communism, it brought us mass debts. So you need to explain yourself and not influence people. Especially the cubans here that they have been doing the wrong thing. If only president obama could talk to our adversaries, the way he talks to america. If he could just reverse that. He unites globally but divides locally. The communists that drove out the American Business interests down there. It was kas free throw. Castro. 50 years ago they had Nuclear Missiles pointed in our direction. This is really a Good Opportunity for the United States, like i was mentioning earlier to cut into that atmosphere of influence that russia has, perhaps that can help them to i like it from a National Security perspective. From a negotiations stand point, one of the complains about this deal is that this would signal to other regimes that you can take prisoner an american and you can get a deal with the United States. Thats why i dont exactly agree with that, im glad that allan gross is home and maybe these things happen in the past. But the cubans narp that were released back were convicted in a court of law. And their pictures were all over cuba, there were five total, three that we released, the others had served their time, but they were heralded as heroes but they were trying to do harm to the United States and infiltrate our intelligence gathering. Just make the point clear, that allan gross was a hostage, lets make it clear, he was held in prison, against his will for a crime he did not commit. Im happy that hes home. But the president announced an embassy in cube barks but its not going around congress, congress has got to appropriate the money to build that embassy. So congress does have a big say in this, when push comes to shove, theyre going to say theres not enough political muscle. One very important fringe benefit, venz waezuelans have h us for the last few years. Venezuela is highly in lock step with cuba right now. If they see cuba coming around to normalizing, maybe thats actually a problem, right . Because as you say, we didnt make any demands on cuba and we dont require any kinds of human rights changes, so what it signals to the rest of the region is that you can be that kind of country and still normalize relations with the United States and i dont have to do anything. This is not the way you need to be treating your people. But venezuela is sending oil and gas to china at a cheaper price than us just to screw us. You have to have a global humanitarian approach. They get Free Health Care and free education, remember, we have been told that for 50 years and it all sucks. On that note, when we come back, the 2016 race is picking up steam as words of potential victory between the obama and clinton teams are surfacing. The 2016 president ial speculation mill is heating up. Yesterday we saw jeb bush, the first serious president ial contender inch closer to a run and we also saw some sniping between the obama and clinton camps. Listen to former senior obama advisor take some not so subtle shots at Hillary Clintons potential candidacy. Said exactly what her program will be, what shes running on. I think elizabeth has what happened in 2008 is that hillarys candidacy got out in front of any rationale for it. And the danger is thats happening again, its like ready for hillary, ready for what . And one thing hillary seems ready to weigh in on is the enhanced interrogation. I am proud to have been a part of the Obama Administration that banned illegal renditions and brutal interrogation practices, including torture. Today we can say again, in a loud and clear voice that the United States should never condone or practice to torture anywhere in the world, not under any future administration or in any future conflict. Can that come back to haunt her . I think so. For example if youre being thoughtful and you read the oped this morning by mike mukasey, who was the former attorney general, who was asked to opine on the legal definitions of torture and enhanced interrogation techniques, very important to look at the subtleties of that, to look at what was legal, what was not. Hillary clinton is walking into a place right now where once it was her Husbands Administration that approved renditions initially, that continued on because they were trying to capture al qaeda. The enhanceded interrogation techniques differed in the scenario after 9 11 and then you look at the wall street journal nbc poll yesterday, for the first time you have a majority of americans saying they actually support the word torture. We have never said that before, everybody agrees with her, United States doesnt torture. Do we use legal enhanced interrogation techniques to get information about a tickling time bomb situation, yes, i think shes on the wring side of that. I think its the righttheres an argument that shes moved too far to the center, its a way to come back to the left. Its a way to get Elizabeth Warren off the board. She got off on a candidacy that basically said im bills wife. So elect me again. Where obama was talking about big change and all the rest of it. But shes playing to her base and she knows it. Greg . Liz warren, i find it interesting that the democrats and the media always portray the right as scary, Ronald Reagan is going to bring you into the third world war, except the end of the cold war, cheneys crazy, bush is scary, to me, liz warren strikes me as very, very frightening, she seems manic and off kilter. My point being if she were on kolber, she would be a regular character on snl. The way she talks and acts they would make fun of her. But because she parrots progressive beliefs. Hillary, i think was clearly playing to her base. I do think that the stances that she was very popular in the room last night. Because the rfk awards could backfire on her, especially since shes trying to come back to the center, to criticize things that her husband was engaged in and supportive of as a president. I think its a very difficult position for her to be in, it could be a very costly one, especially if theres another terrorist attack. Bob, i want to get this in here, because republicans are also jumping in on the 2016 shadow with a couple of nonestablishment candidates reacting to the news yesterday. First up, senator rand paul when he discussed what jeb bush would face in a gop primary. Ronald reagan ran on the part of getting rid of centralized education. For jeb bush to run in the primary will be very, very difficult. Because if youre going to be for a National Curriculum and for common core and for no child left behind, this accumulation of power in washington, thats not very popular, and its going to be an overcoming if he think he is can win the primary. And senator ted cruz who has some advice as to what the Republican Party should be looking for in a candidate. We should be looking for whoever is standing up and leading. Whoever is standing up and fighting the major fights of the day, whoever is making the case that the obama economy is a disaster that obama care is a train wreck, that we have got to defend the constitution. When do you make your decision whether you run or not . I think the field will form sometime in january of next year. What i want to say is exactly what jeb bush wanted. The two guys you want to come out and attack you are those two, if they think theyre going to pin their entire candidacy on education, theyre crazy. I think common core is a bigger issue than were giving it credit here. You mean bigger than immigration . Bigger than immigration. The general consensus is no very conservative conservatives want a National Education not only conservatives, i hear parents talking about it on the sidewalk and the subway. It is bigger. Its not just from the pundit class, its coming from the parents and to the teachers, all talking about common core. It is evolving, so there is an opportunity for him to have a thoughtful discussion about it, to be presented different ideas and say, this is where we were, we were well intentioned, we were going to do something to transform education, this is where we have been, this is where were going. I hate education governor. Im with bob, i do think that it cant just be common core. If he can explain coherently his point of view, he could get past that. Al what i dont want is a novelty conservative of the month club like we had in 2012, where somebody popped up and everybody went like this and that person went through, then ill go through my four points quickly, somebody who can navigate the modern world, not like a creeky uncle and aunt. You need to handle it with finesse and humor, not only someone that can win, but that wants to win. Up next, sony hackers turning up the heat, threatening a 9 11 terror attack on Movie Theaters screening the interview film. Did sony cave . 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A statement has come out from sony just a few minutes ago, it reads in part, we respect and understand our partners decisions and of course completely share their paramount employees, our customers and our business. Theyre referring of course to the hackers who have threatened to attack theaters that showed the controversial movie. The film is about two men who try to kill the north korean dictator kim jongun. Hackers posted a threat online threatening a bitter fate for theater goers. So in the end, to put it simply, the terrorists have won. I dont know about you kimberly, but it was stomach turning. It was an indication, certainly a threat about these cyber crimes and saying they were going to shut down the premier. Im worried about the future. What kind of message that does send to other people . Shepard, thank you for that. Lets bring you back to the five. Dana, get your comments to this . Just checking, alec ross who was one of the Global Internet freedom guys of the world, he worked for president obama as a head of technology. His tweet just now is the response by sony and Movie Theat

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