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FOXNEWSW The Five September 19, 2016

Rick . Reporter were on 23rd street in the chelsea neighborhood of manhattan. This block still closed between 6th and 7th avenues. The explosion saturday night was behind me on this block, rocked the buildings here, blew out glass, injured 29 people. Of course, they found that that was a Pressure Cooker bomb and they found a second Pressure Cooker four blocks to the north of us on 27th street that did not detonate. This actually started with another bomb, a pipe bomb that went off in seaside park, new jersey, on saturday morning. Then there was another pipe bomb that was found in elizabeth, new jersey, last night. In a backpack with several other pipe bombs. Some of them did not detonate. Some of the bombs in seaside park did not detonate. They were able to connect these thanks to fingerprints and evidence left behind by the bomber who has been identified as ahmad khan are a rahami who shot this morning. He was involved in a shootout with Linden Police who were called to a bar because the bar owner found some guy sleeping in the hallway. Called police. They thought they recognized him. It turned out to be the suspect who the fbi had put out his picture three hours earlier. Police recognized him. He pulled out a gun, began firing. They returned fire. There were several officers injured. This suspect was taken down and is now we were told earlier in surgery and authorities have a lot of questions for him. Rick, thanks. A lot of questions at this hour. One of the questions they will ask him and you will ask you. Im trying to understand the family. I read that the family has no known terror connections. I can buy that. It says the brother might have helped radicalize. We heard this story before several times in recent years. Theres also the travel to pakistan and afghanistan, not necessarily the place where you go for spring break. Im wondering if you have any more information about that tie. Reporter we have heard that ahmad rahami made several trips to afghanistan in recent years. One friend said he came back from one of the trips a changed man. It appeared he had been radicalized. This is something that authorities are looking into. We dont have any information about other members of the family. We do know there was a complaint filed against rahami by someone in a domestic dispute who told authorities that he had been radicalized. Authority say when they looked into it, they couldnt find any evidence of that. They didnt pursue that. Now, of course, theyre taking a second look and a hard look at what may have turned this guy, if he is the one who set off all these bombs across the region. Greg . We keep hearing about the use of phones, whether they were used as timers or remote detonators. Im wondering, is his father claiming they are clocks for a science project . How would the reporter i havent heard that. How were the clocked used . Were they timers or detonatored . Reporter my understanding is that there were three flip phones attached to the three devices. Apparently, they were used. They were hooked up with Christmas Lights to the Pressure Cooker and to the pipe bombs. You know, the belief is that you would call that flip phone and that phone call would set off the explosives. This is a common tactic used by al qaeda and others in middle east. Where he got this information, how he assembled the bombs remains to be seen. But that was a telltale sign. I was told by sources on sunday afternoon, they already had determined all three of these incidents were connected to a single bomber. Then they were able to identify him through fingerprints and other evidence left at the scene. One more question. How are the two officers that were shot . Are they okay . Reporter my understanding is one was grazed in the head and the other was hit in the chest and save by his chest. I believe they are okay. I dont flow if thknow if they treated. Another officer was treated for Blood Pressure that spiked during this incident. None were serious injuries. Thank goodness. You said rahami was the subject of a domestic complaint ant the perso and said, no, he is not a radical. Do we know if the feds followed up on that . Did they have contact with him . Did he come in for questioning . Reporter my understanding is they did meet with him. They did talk to him. Their investigation led them to believe that he was not a threat. There were other incidents with rahami and his family. They owned a chicken restaurant in elizabeth, new jersey, a half mile from where the bombs were placed at the train station sunday night. There were a lot of complaints from neighbors about the chicken restaurant, that it was too loud, they were staying open too late, people were congress grga them all night. The town made them shut down at 10 00. The family filed a lawsuit to keep the place open. A compromise was opened until they could stay open until midnight or 1 00 a. M. They were closing down after complaints were made by neighbors. Really appreciative of the reporting. I just had two quick questions about how the fbi operated. One, what happened with the arrest made near the bridge . I understand five people were taken into custody. Were they found to have any relationship to the suspect . Reporter we dont know the full details of whether theres a relationship there or not. We were told is that the authorities were tracking rahami. They tracked this vehicle, because the occupants of the vehicle had been seen at a residence or location connected to rahami. They were tracking that vehicle and they pulled it over on the parkway last night. There were five individuals, three men, two women pulled out of the vehicle. They were taken into custody and questioned. None of them were arrested. Whether they provided any information that was helpful to investigators, we dont know. We dont know where those five people are at this hour. We were told that they were not arrested and are not suspects in this investigation. One other quick thought. Its interesting how fast how fast the police, the fbi were able to get this guy. If i understand it, its because of the phones themselves that they were able to connect the phones. Am i right . Reporter the phones, fingerprints, surveillance footage. There are thousands of cameras across the city. They were able to identify him through footage. The first bombing was saturday morning. The explosion here was saturday night. They didnt release his federal unt photograph until three hours before he was arrested. They had this guy in custody. Excellent job by rick. Thanks so much for being on the show tonight. We turn to our chief intelligence correspondence who is live from washington. Katherine, a lot to discuss. Did officials pick up chatter from the suspect prior to the attack . Reporter everything we learned suggests that this was not somebody who was on the radar of Law Enforcement as someone who was becoming radicalized. He was not you are in surveillance. The there the picture leading up to 9 11 and into this week has been Nothing Specific or credible. As the Homeland Security secretary told fox, you cant hang your hat on that anymore. There will be individual actors who can be plotting independently of a foreign terrorist group. Dana has a question for you. Unlike other suspects, this one is actually he is wounded but he is going to survive. Im curious from what you know, what do you think the most important questions are that he could possibly answer that could either give us additional intel for possible other attacks or insight into how he was able to be under the radar as a radicalized american naturalized citizen. Reporter the good new today is that they were able to take him into custody for question. They were able to save his life, which is what theyre doing right now. Whats happening as sort of a second channel, if you will, or pathway in the investigation is that they are able to go through now his social media, his electronics, his computer and they can build out a profile of hip and his network of contacts. Then they can marr marry that u the questions they can ask him about what he was doing leading up to the first explosion at the race in new jersey and then also the explosion in new york to try and assess based on what they have independent of him from his electronics and what he tells them whether he is being truthful about whether it was a plot that was affected by only himself and there were no others or whether he is, in fact, lying to the fbi and that, of course, would be anticipate additional criminal charge. Tucker, you have a question . In contrast to others on militants abeing ttacking the wt doesnt seem like he was attempting suicide. Reporter its hard to get inside the mind of an individual like this. Everyones path to radicalization is different. As we heard in new york earlier today, this is something theyre trying to understand. Whether he was on a slow boil for a while or whether it was something that happened what they call now a very short flash to bang. The flash to bang is buying into the ideology and then deciding to act. What really has my attention is the trips to afghanistan at this point. Were told there were a handful, about three. But they were over about a sixyear period. So it did not raise red flags with the authorities because they were not so frequent that it seemed that he would have to have some alternate form of financing. You make a good point. He was not, it seemed, on a Suicide Mission at the end. Tea not its not uncommon to see individuals who lose their courage when it comes to the final moments. Yeah. I think this is a pattern that i believe san bernardino, orlando and now this, its always after a recent trip. Are they is there any what is the cutoff . How do they monitor people are similar patterns . Does it have to be one trip within a year or three trips over three years . Are people following this pattern . Reporter well, one of the sort of calculuses they make is whether these trips seem to exceed what this persons personal finances can really justify and afford. I was told by a Law Enforcement contact that based on the pattern and the frequency, it did not seem to exceed this. I just want to bring you back if i can to one point that rick made, which i think is where the story may go now in the next 24 hours. We have had two sources now confirm to fox news that there was some prior contact between rahami and the fbi. It rose out of this domestic dispute. Were told that was some years ago. But in the course of that domestic dispute, the Family Member made an allegation he was getting radicalized and this was pursued by the fbi. I was told that they did interview him in person and they felt that there was not enough to proceed at that point. To be fair to the fbi, we have seen this in other cases like boston. But the way our system works is that you just if theres not enough there to proceed or to go forward, then they cannot leave these people on the radar indefinitely, if you will. Thats disturbing. What we saw this weekend, not only in new york but then, of course, in new jersey and also minnesota would lead to the question of whether or not what you are getting is directions from the terrorist overseas to go after soft targets. What do we know . Reporter well, both isis and al qaeda have been doing what has been described by the fbi director as the crowd sourcing of terrorism, which is they pulse out this message to attack where you are and to hit soft targets hoping that one fraction of one percent will act on that information. We have seen no evidence so far that the suspect in new york nor the suspect in minneapolis had direct contact with a terrorist group. They were then directed to act in a certain way and in a certain time frame. So thats not there yet. But were still in early days at least in new york. There is some indication with respect to the minnesota attack that that was at least they took credit for it in one of the publications that isis did. Reporter isis has what i would call an official propaganda mouthpiece that they put out claims of responsible. They did that over the weekend. Everything i have heard from my contacts is that does appear to have been an isisinspired event as opposed to an ey directed. Reporter for the people stabbed in the mall, im not sure it makes much of a difference. You are right. Excellent reporting. Thank you. More to come. Political correctness getting in the way of the war or terror. New york citys mayor is still having a hard time definitively calling the bombing in manhattan an act of terror, next. When you have something you love, you want to protect it. At legalzoom, our network of attorneys can help you every step of the way. With an estate plan including wills or a living trust that grows along with you and your family. Legalzoom. Legal help is here. Americans are buying more and more of everything online. And so many businesses rely on the United States Postal Service to get it there. Thats why we make more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. The United States Postal Service. Priority you welcome back. It became clear very quickly that saturday nights explosion if manhattan was a terror attack and no accident. New yorks governor and new york citys mayor seemed to downplay it initially. Theres no evidence at this point of a terror connection. I believe the mayor was saying there was no connection with international terrorism. And that is correct. Yesterday, you were reluctant to call this an act of terror i. Are you prepared now to say it was . We will say more in the next few hours. But its definitely leaning in that direction the more we know. Yesterday, we had no evidence suggesting an International Terrorist attack. Stimulated by a foreign presence or foreign body. Today i believe were going to find out that it was influenced by foreign forced. Based on the information we have now, we have every reason to believe this was an act of terror. President obama did not comment until this morning. Folks around here, they dont get scared. Theyre tough. Theyre resilient. They go about their business every single day. Thats the kind of strength that is going to be critical, not just in the days to come but in the years to come. By showing those who want to do us harm that they will never beat us, by showing the entire world that as americans we do not and never will give in to fear. What did you make of that . Unless its a tea parter. Do you remember after the times square event, mayor bloomberg said, it could be a tea partier upset with obamacare. We dont want to stigmatize any group unless its somebody that is acceptable by the media. The media finds it easier to take firm stands on small things like language versus action. They will go after donald trump for saying its a bomb. Rather than getting upset over the fact that its a bomb itself. I saw an ad for president obama. He was asked if you should put ketchup on a hot dog. He said no, never do that. Its a small example that shows how you can take tough you could take tough decisions for abject silliness. When it cop comes to tough thin you become mush. The other thing i love about this story, no guns are involved in what happened in new jersey and new york. It creates a challenge for the left. They cant deflect from their incompetence when dealing with terror to the nra. They cant blame the nra. Its a Pressure Cooker, not a bomb. Maybe sthey should go after crate barrel. I see your point. I think you are possibly going to run for mayor of new york, if we can convince you to do so. I will be your speech writer. You will be good. De blasio has the gift for understatement. He has a gift for cowardice. Thats what he does. He is a feckless leader. Has not done any good for new york city. I cant wait for him to be out of office. This was an example this weekend of how he handled this. He is literally frightened of words and tall as big as he is, he is frightened of words. Words scare him because he is trapped by ideology which makes him an ineffective, cowardly leader and not one that a city like new york city needs. To me, this is not a war of narrative. But this is a war of culture, of idea, of religion. Lets be honest. Those that would follow radical islamic terrorism and those that would not. People that crucify children and bury people alive and drawn them in cages and light them on fire and those that would not. Was de blasio trying to be calm and just, everything is okay, new york city . You were reporting it live on the air on sunday morning. In their effort to make sure that nobody gets too uptight about it, nobody gets too worry, they scare the hell out of all of us. Its read for what it is, dishonesty. Theyre lying to us and we know it. Contrast de blasios response to cuomos response. Cuomo wants to run for president. He understands if he gets out there, thats a deal killer. What are they afraid of . Theyre afraid of the population of the United States. They downplayed the threat from radical islam, 186 People Killed or wounded if a Consumer Product did that, it would be banned. Theyre afraid if they tell the truth about it the average person is so stupid and addicted to oxycontin that they will start murdering muslims. They dont trust americans. I think something different. The fact is that you have a problem with the idea of islam versus the United States. We dont want to feed that narrative. How about islamism . I think secondly, you have in this situation a real attempt to say, this is what we know, this is what we dont know. To not get ahead of the story. To not feed wrong expectation. The other day in central park, you had a kid jump and there was an explosive device. We dont know who planted that. It must have been this. We had an airplane go down. Some people said, it must have been terror. We dont know. There was a fire on the plane, apparently. No, no, tucker, you are making it might be. Radical groups. Here is the interesting argument that juan presents, which is what the media presents. Never jump to the conclusions unless the conclusions that we share. For example, if you think its terror, you are jumping to conclusion. Saying that its not terror, thats also a jump to a conclusion. Then you always turn out to be wrong. Its the same thing. We have to run. I say i dont know. I can say i dont know but i have a feeling. When i see a bomb and i have a feeling i know what it is. And look at germany and merkel and the result of this Political Correctness and uncontrolled immigration. How is it working out over there . Also, were also alway

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