About Social Security. Richard nixon released tax returns when he was under audit. Gentlemen you cant meet the people at home cannot understand either one of you when you speak over each other. The director of fbi Homeland Security said we cant know for certain who these people are coming from syria. We can. We dont let them in. She had a Clinton Foundation accepting contributions from foreign governments. You are Donald Trumps senator, i think im still on my time. Isnt this a discussion . What is up with tim kaine . Is his middle name co . Lets share another line. I was in washington, d. C. On 9 11. I saw the clouds of smoke rise from the pentagon. I was in virginia. I know you were. Thats small potatoes compared to Hillary Clinton who called half of donald Trump Supporters a basket of deplorables. Hillary clinton said something and she said, i shouldnt have said that. She said she shouldnt governor, this is senator kaines two minutes. Now were even. You want to see who lost the debate, find out who is whining about it. Pence clearly won despite moderator bias. She lost control, which happens when you only corral one cat and that cat is more amped than Pete Townsends gibson. Theres that one guy, johnny eyebrows mugging his elastic face to get the attention of the ticket agent. It was hard to follow. Abrupt right turns, left turns, heavy breaking. It was like watching a squirrel take a driving test. Pence rose above it like a tugboat among churn. He turned into a fifth head destined for mount rushmore, stoney but stoic. Pence looked like a president. Oddly enough, the chaos actually helped pence for his reactions reflected truth lost in the chaos of 2016. Experience doesnt mean establishment. It can mean cool confidence. The debate contrasted two belief systems. If a martian saw those two men last night, how could it not guess which one is conservative . Its the one who conserves, the c calm leader. Pence has great eyesight, 20 20. Eric, what did you make of the debate overall in terms of the moderator and structure . I liked the moderator. I thought she got a lot of topics in, a lot of substance. I know there was a lot of theres a lot of analysis how many times she asked pence a hard question versus kaine. It showed what tim kaine was. I had no idea. I push back when donald trump picked pence. What a brilliant pick that was. Those two sat there, they went mono a mono. And pence was measured he was respectful, intelligent, confident. Kaine, kohe was abrasive. The american people, if you are sitting there wondering if the top of the ticket goes down for whatever reason, its incapacitated, which one of these two do you want . Theres no question, pence trounced kaine. Kimberly, a loss of cross talk, which never happens on cable news or on panel news. I dont know what you are talking about. I dont know either. What could she have done to improve that . It seemed like it went off the rails a little bit. I think she could have controlled it, to be honest with you. Obviously, he had an agenda to interrupt as many times as possible so he gets the gold medal for the most interruptions in the time frame of the debate. I think she had to set those rules straight up from the beginning. Im not going to tell you again, dont interrupt. I have both sides time to speak. Or megtry to take control. I think overall, she did a good job. That wasnt so great. It was more to the fault of tim kaine for not being professional and for interrupting all the time. He did himself a disservice. If hillary wins the presidency, people are going to be praying, lighting candles, stay healthy. This guy just seemed to me to not be president ial. I liked him more before i listened to him in that debate last night. I dont know if that was the advice he was getting from the campaign or what. He won because he interrupted the most and he didnt let pence get words out. Pence seemed calm, informed. He was prepared. He was president ial. Well, actually, very good pick. Dana, i heard you Say Something last night after the debate talking about a lot of people were thinking, is pence going to run . Was he going to be at the top of the ticket . He proved himself to be a good choice for those that were supporters of his to begin with that would have liked to see him on a ticket at the top. I was saying before there were 17 candidates in 2015 and people mused for a couple years before the announcement of who was going to run, people on the conservative side would say, mike pence should be in the mix of that. When he decided not to run as a president ial candidate, i think there was a lot of disapointment. I thought the debate was rushed in the first 20 minutes. What in the world . Then it calmed down so much after that that i kept finding myself going, what did they say about Social Security . There was a lot more than that could have been teased out from that. She missed some opportunities for followup questions or they did for each other, especially on some of the things like for example, i think mike pennsylvanpence did was an excellent but he did dodge questions and points that kaine was making about what about when donald trump said x or y . I think that was probably a little bit disconcerting for some people. For conservatives watching it, mike pence was a champion last night. Juan, i thought the problem was that elaine kept sticking to a script. When chaos they would go in some different argument and she would go we have to talk about we have to talk about this. That didnt help. I think kaine didnt help her either. I think she was a weak moderator. Thats what came through is she was trying to organize these people and their goal was to talk. Lets go to the big picture here, the day after. The day after what i hear from republicans is, wow. What a relief. After that terrible week with trumps disastrous debate performance, miss universe, the tax story, pence held his own. We dont have any problem with what mike pence did. We can argue because polls show it that what you get was pence being the more likeable candidate. His numbers, his favorability numbers inching up. You saw kaine go down. Pence exceeded expectations in terms of his performance. Especially so for republicans who some of whom say to me today, they feel like you know, its buyers remorse. We hear around the table, maybe he should have been the candidate. No, no. Yeah. I hear that. I felt when i saw pence, i said, that guy, he is president ial. He is more conservative. Maybe more president ial. Way more president ial. He will not bring out the type of crowds to vote and enthusiasm that donald trump does. We dont know that. If you started with a mike pence in the field of 17, are you sure mike pence is the last man standing . Thats the rub. Obviously not. Probably not. Here is my point that struck me last night. I was watching debate with dana perino. We had a blast. I was thinking, you know what . This guy pence is throwing trump under the bus time and time again. The prosecutorial mode that tim kaine employed, which is he calls women dogs, he said that mexicans are rapists, he said putin is a great guy and kaine kept coming back to this and you never saw mike pence he never owned it. Respond and defend donald trump. I think part of the reason was kaine piled them so many of them and he was so irritating. He was irritating. His constant eye contact i have to defend the moderatomode. When pence would talk, kaine would look at the moderator. Didnt he wink at her . She had to go to him whenever. Shes an exceedingly nice person. A gentle person. Shes a mom. Maybe she could have said, stop it. Knock it off. Going in she said she had nine topics, nine buckets she wanted to get to with a twominute response from each. Im going, thats very, very aggressive to get that she wanted to do what lester didnt do. Tim kaine never really answered what he was asked. He took a shot and turned it to a trump dig. Do you think they should have had the buzzer like in the primary debates . I thought it was great. They both went at it. She didnt fact check. For once, i thought that was great. Let the candidates duke it out. If someone said something they dont agree with or think is wrong, then point it out. I like that format. This is what bothered me. Im watching it. Now today understand it stylistically, it was a huge win for mike pence, that he looked calm. He wasnt interrupting. As i was watching, what i saw was that when the issue was brought up about putin, here is mike pence. That guy is a bully. That guy is im thinking, wait a minute. Thats not what donald trump said. What we talked about yesterday, is this debate about defending the boss or is this debate to find out who these two guys are in the event the intos incapacitated . When tim kaine says donald trump said were going to punish women who have abortions, he said, no. Thats what he said. When in fact mike pence himself said putin is a better leader than barack obama, you know what, mike pence said i didnt say that. Where is the fact checker . Whats going on . The people sitting at home like all of us that can make a decision and be informed and say, that was stated before, it wasnt. I think she tried to get through a long list of subjects. One of the criticisms of the president ial debate is that lester holt didnt get to enough. We brought up issues. What about choice . What about also, can i we dont have i want to get this on tape. It shows that she asked a number of questions to pence but not that many to kaine. Governor, with all deue respect is whether it seems fair that mr. Trump said he brilliantly used the law to pay as little tax as legally possible. How would the millions of undocumented lead . Would they be removed . Home grown you asked the trust worthy question at the beginning. Governor, your two minutes are up. They are looking at the pay to play politics she operated with the Clinton Foundation. Governor, please. Your two minutes are up. We would know more if Hillary Clinton would turn over the 33,000 emails lets turn back to north korea. If you had intelligence. Senator he brought up important topics. She had to get back on to the thing. She goes hard on pence, soft on kaine. That was the general consensus. I have to tell you, im impressed with mike pences ability to stay focus. He was able to he didnt get mired in the specific trump said this, this, this, this. Then he would be there all night trying to go through the laundry list that he was saying. It was more about kaine putting the rapid fire in. He wasnt defending Hillary Clinton. I didnt hear anything about i think thats what he did. He hit trump. Im saying the instant poll today said that kaine did a better job with defending clinton you know why . Because pence didnt take the tact that im going to attack Hillary Clinton. He didnt attack hillary. Im talking about defending your candidate. It looks like kaine did a better job of defending the boss because he was never pressed. It was the other way. It was kaine taking shots at donald trump through mike pence. I thought the reason you liked it was because what you saw was mike pence went at email, deplorables comment. I dont think i think mike pence spent most of the time answering the trump attack question and he masterfully debated tim kaine and beat him. My final word is, anybody who is undecided, did they come to a decision . According to polls, no. According to cnn, thats correct. Their poll said more people that were gravitating towards trump after that debate and listening to kaine and pence. Im talking over you like they did. Still to come, trump and clintons thoughts on last nights debate. The east coast is on high alert bracing for the massive storm. A live update from the Fox Weather Center ahead. Back now to last nights vicepresident ial debate. It started off with a handshake but quickly got ugly. Here is more from the dramatic showdown. The campaign of Hillary Clinton and tim kaine has been an avalanche of insults. Do you want a you are fired president in donald trump . He loved dictators. He has a personal mount rushmore, putin, kim jongun, gaddafi and hussein. If your son or my son handled the information the way that is false. Governor. Some fool or maniac could trigger a catastrophic event. And i think thats who governor pences running mate is. Come on. Who president reagan warned us about. Senator, that was beneath you and Hillary Clinton. Thats pretty low. How low can you go . Who won last nights faceoff . The Mainstream Media even said pence. A little debate last night. I was humbled and honored to be there. Donald trump called me late last night to congratulate me on the debate. That really meant the world to me. It truly did. Some people think i won. I will leave that to others. What i can tell you is from i sat, donald trump won the debate. Donald trumps vision to make America Great again won the debate. Overall, i think the winner tonight will end up being in terms of the debate and what they were trying to accomplish pence because pence really was solid. He looked like he had his head screwed on. Mike pence was all the things that donald trump was not in his debate. He was clearly he studied and he was unflappable pretty much in the face of all those interruptions. Even honest democrats would say tim kaine had good moments but not his best night. Pence won on the stage. There you have it. That was a bonus round. The first one, pence having an event today. Dana, the Mainstream Media right after the debate, i heard Chris Matthews saying, pence won. I was like, oh, is it was just so obvious. There was really no question about it. I do think that kaine probably feels like he hit the objectives, which is probably did no harm to the clinton campaign. Pence probably did help not just for trump but i really think that what he did last night was shore up and help some of the Republican Senate candidates in the tough states where those elections really are close or you have a battleground state where trump and clinton are either tied or they are traveling there a lot. The senate is such an important thing for republicans to try to hold on to that i think pence was extremely helpful for them last night. They should just run with that. Do you think perhaps, eric, this is a little bit of a salve for some of the other conservatives to say this guy this was a good pick. Pence is excellent if he will be around trump. The two of them together as a team perhaps producing good quality decisions and results . First thing in the morning i was waiting i like to go through the channels and see what the spin is. See how the spin starts out. 6 00 in the morning, the spin was, yeah, pence did good on style but substance, you know he didnt have the right answers about what trump said or he couldnt defend trump properly. By the second or third hour, they abandoned that and said basically, pence really won this. You are right. If you are a trump supporter, if you are a trump fan you go, here is this first real decision he has had to make. Pick a vicepresident. Pick a nominee to run with you. He picked the right guy. Clearly, i would say he picked the right guy. Trump is and Hillary Clinton are the pizza and chicken wings. These are the vegetables tonight. He brought broccoli. Okay. Was there fly dip with that . Ranch. Very tasty. Juan, a bunch of my friends being from San Francisco and whatnot are quite liberal. One of my best friends was a huge Bernie Sanders supporter. Tshirt and everything. Now shes going to go for hillary. Were in a little bit of a dust up over that. She was like, wow, this guy pence, even though he is pro life, he does it in a way thats nonthreatening, thats likeable. This guy could be a contender if hillary wins in 2020. People found him to be very likeable. Also, clearly thought he won the debate. I dont know about clearly. People think he won the debate and as the day has gone on, i think it has become conventional wisdom. On the point on the point that ann made, i must tell you the people were saying today that the big winner in this debate may be mike pence for 2020 that suddenly he is in the conversation if trump doesnt win the presidency. Right . I said that. There we go. If you hear from greg gutfeld, take it to the bank. The big loser was ted cruz. That was the next statement on the i want to say ted cruz is crying somewhere in the corner after that. Here is the clinton camp. Which is anns ann said shes going to vote for clinton. Clinton camp said we like what tim kaine did because they were aiming not to ann if ann is voting for them. But to white republican suburban women. They want that message about all the nasty thing, the dog, the nasty women trump has said, they want it repeated. They want it out there and they may be making ads. Tim kaine sacrificed himself. Shes White College educated. Go ahead. Its amazing. Have you heard from anybody who thought kaine won . Yes. Robby mook. He is unbalanced. He needs to see somebody right away. When you lose Chris Matthews, theres no one left. I think the important thing when we talk about pence is that he is stoic. We are living in emotional times. Theres a lot of hate and divisiveness. It was refreshing to see something calm and reassuring. Look, he disagrees with trump on free trade, on immigration keep going. On a number of things. Will trump listen to him, a . Will pence have influence . Will he be like dick cheney or like joe biden . And wear sunglasses in videos. We dont know. I have to say this, the thriller in vanilla. What did trump and clinton think of the performances last night . Their reactions next. Stay big day . Ah, the usual. Moved some new cars. Hauled a bunch of steel. Kept the supermarket shelves stocked. Made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. Whats up for the next shift . Ah, nothing much. Just keeping the lights on. laugh nice. Doing the big things that move an economy. See you tomorrow, mac. See you tomorrow, sam. Just another day at norfolk southern. My eyelove is finding a all yodifferent angle. Plays my eyelove is season 1, episode 1. My eyelove is making a story come alive. Eyelove is all the things we love to do with our eyes. 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