Deals as admissions of guilt. No individual too big to jail. That should include people like hillary clinton. I mean, five people around her have been given iunity to include her former chief of staff. When you are given immunity that means you have probably committed a crime. Dana maybe not. President trump once said something similar though about the clinton camp. Does he think flynn is guilty of a crime . Here is sean spicers answer earlier. He believes mike flynn should go testify. With or without immunity . Thats up to him and his lawyer to decide. Im not going to give mike flynn or anyone else legal advice from the podium. I will tell you that the president s view is he should go up there. He should testify. The president gave legal advice from his twitter account. You said in the past only reason to ask for immunity is you committed a crime. What he is asking is go testify. Go get it out there. Do what you have to do to get there and Tell Congress and everyone exactly what we have been saying for a long time. This is an administration doing everything to get to the bottom of this in the appropriate way. I think that is an important distinction that has been lost on a lot of you. Dana last we left you a after one more thing last night we did not know about th immunity offer it came right after we left, eric. Its important to say even though when you are talking about your partisan opponent, you might say that it means youre guilty of a crime. Immunity does not mean that and immunity can take a lot of different forms. But this wasnt necessarily the best way to get this story off the front page. Eric here is the way i read this is you are a good lawyer will always instruct to you ask for immunity. I mean, that is a great option for the person who is going to be standing there and may open himself to a lot of risk. To matterhat you say in this hearing it can be used against you in other hearings. Of course you are going to ask for immunity. I think its unfortunate that he said if youre granted immunity you are guilty of something. I dont know where that came from immunity during the campaign. He has something. He has information. And its its got a value. Does the Senate Committee or do any of the committees think its valuable enough to offer him immunity. It looks like they are not going to give it to him. Again, to unmask someone you have to have a reason and have you to have clearance. Then to go public like they did with Michael Flynns name, thats a felony. So someone is going to be in a lot of trouble when they find out who unmasked and then went public with Michael Flynns name. Dana thats true because the white house today, greg, they are wanting the investigation to focus on the unmasking issue instead of the meddling. The people on the other side said the meddling is important and the unmasking is second even though they admit its a crime. Greg twoman race to the evidence. The race between the people who believe in the collusion they want that to be true. Other side says no, its a leak. The leak is slightly ahead. It appears there is more evidence about the leak than there is about collusion back to the immunity question, we have asked for it publicly. If he really wanted something, i would hit them up privately. Dana may have. Greg succulent secret staff. Im going by what i know. Im not speculating, dana. Dana so responsible. Greg publicly asking for immunity is like publicly asking for drugs. No one is going to say sure, have it. Because its bad form. By the way, why cant we just have immunity for everything . Its like why is it just when you have to talk in court . Dana where do you want it from . Greg relationship, work. How does that work though . Greg exactly. Women would never grant you immunity. Dana let me take a quick look at they wouldnt. This is congressman chaffetz who was on earlier today talkg about whether he, as one of the chairman of the committees on the house side thinks that immunity should be granted. I dont think its a witchhunt. Look, its very mysterious to me though why all of a sudden general flynn is suddenly out there saying he wants immunity. A, i dont think congress should give him immunity. If there is an open investigation by the fbi, that should not happen. I also dont believe that actually the president should be weighing in on this. They are the ones that would actually prosecute something. I was very critical of president obama, who weighed in on the irs scandal, before we had all the facts. I dont think trump should be weighing in on this. Immunity from what . We dont know what that is. It is up to the intel committee. Dana so, juan, having been not you but speaking of myself. Having been in the trench and having to answer questions every day about an Ongoing Investigation in which the fbi was involved at the white house, my i was advised by lawyers and people around no comment. Just stall in the Briefing Room say no comment while Ongoing Investigation was underway because even though that caused shortterm pain in tsshe pre, it was better in the long run for the investigatio and for anybody at the white house or others who might have been involved. I think that even if that was the instinct of the white house in the press office, its hard to do when the president is weighing in. And so now have you an additional layer of the president saying, basically, that they are very much public on this investigation. Juan what struck me is if the president said its a witchhunt. If you say its a witchhunt he is talking about those evil democrats or talking about that terrible media that failing New York Times. That awful the Washington Post or whatever when you say this you are talking about the intelligence agency. You tar bug people gathering information. Dana you dont think hes he is just talking about the press. Juan no. Because they are not conducting the investigation and asking Michael Flynn to come in. Its the Intelligence Committees asking Michael Flynn to tell his story. If Michael Flynn is going to tell the truth why does donald trump think oh yeah, go ahead and seek immunity. I think it complicates matters and obviously on the surface, lets just stick with that for a second, it just doesnt look good. I think thats what i heard from republicans during the campaign with regard to clinton. It just doesnt look good because people may say where there is smoke, theres fire. At the moment the real problem is that you have a president who decides unlike sean spicer who was wise enough to say he doesnt give legal advice from the podium the president is spewing legal advice in a way to suggest there is something being hidden. Dana what do you think of this, lisa, because the unmasking issue is very seriously hi. Absolutely. Dana even if you solve and get answers in an hour. Unmasking issue about the alleged collusion is still there. So, what do you think theye up to . All we have seen is circumstantial evidence that the democrats have put forward. But i dont think you can say its a witchhunt, obviously, because there is ongoing fbi investigation. We dont know the full scope of that you cannot ignore that issue as a whole. I do think if you are the white house, its got to be frustrating in the sense that this other side of the coin nobody seems interested in, right . The media doesnt seem as interested in the unmasking of americans names. They dont seem as interested in the illegal leak of information that being said, if youre the president , youre north really doing yourself a service or doing any favors by keeping this information out in the media and tweeting Something Like that out today. Guess what . There are a whole host of issues that Americans Care a lot about like finding replacement and passing a replacement plan for healthcare, like tax lee form. Like getting neil gorsuch or conservatives to vote for President Trump to get him confirmed. So when you are putting this information out there, when there are already soible questions, so much information out there already, you really arent doing yourself any favors. So if the president is watching please stop doing that. [laughter] greg was going to say the other reason why calling it a witchhunt is wrong. Its an attack on witches. Seriously. You think about witches. They have rights, too. Nobody cares about them. Greg apparentl tortured and murdered and we act like we are comparing everything to a witchhunt. Witch hunts were bad. Dana thats talking about the hunters of the witches. Refers to them not the witch. Greg greg i think its still inappropriate. People make me sick. Dana you were going to say something. Eric do you know who they definitely should offer immunity to and the Trump Organization would love to see this as well offer immunity to Evelyn Farkas. I talked about her today and again yesterday. This is someone who should have immunity. She knew too much. She was out of white house when she contacted the Obama Administration. Suggesting that there was surveillance going on of the Trump Administration. Why is that . Who did you know . And how did you get that information and who did you pass it on to . Boy, i think there is someone who should be immunity from prosecution because she is holding a loft cards. If you are flynn, can you blame him for especially given for how hyper partisan this has become on both sides of the of the fence just the shear amount this is given. The fact there is an fbi investigation. I dont blame the guy for trying to seek immunity deal. Thats what he said in his statement no reasonable person would circumstantial subject themselves to this line of questioning given the fact the political nature of this. Given the amount of attention it is without assurances against prosecution. So, i mean, its obviously unfortunate that he had made those comments before because it sure doesnt look good today. That being said, you cant blame the guy given all these other circumstances for wanting to make some sort of deal. Dana thats the difference between legal advice and campaign rhetoric. Juan by the way, that was interesting what you had to say about witchhunt. That was a good point. Did you hear that gregory . Its about the hunted not the witch. Greg you dont want to go there juan. Juan i think the person who should be given immunity should be President Trump. Is he auy who apparently knew what was going on. Knew about the perception being perpetrated by flynn and took him three weeks to get rid of flynn. Wait a second, why would any president do that to his own Vice President , send that message internally to his ow staff unless he felt that flynn had something on him . Oh, jeesh. Dana i dont know. We also know there have been over zealous prosecutors in the past that try to get you on something that is not related to the eventual question. Juan going back to erics point, dana, und such scrutiny under the microscope of microscope so intensely. There is no wide eyed prosecutor going to get away with anything here. Eric there are two investigations going on here. Try to find some sort of collusion between trump and russians. The other one being whats with this unmasking and the felonious outing of americans names . Juan i just feel this is part of the white house smoke. They throw up this stuff about leaks, leaks, leaks. America country and a healthy sign. Eric every average american out there the more important issue is what do you mean americans . It may be possibly innocent americans names were outed. Juan no, wait a minute. Dana we have another block on this. Greg race im talking about. Dana here they go. They are on race. Greg i watch a lot of law and order. Its always the rich white guy thats guilty. I put my money on the rich, white guy. Dana very good. It is hollywood. Juan if it was a horror movie the black guy. Dana reading assignment is something eric brought up about Evelyn Farkas. Philip bump wrote a piece about her. New reaction from the white house on the revelation that two Trump Officials were the ones who showed House Intelligence Committee chair, devin nunes those collection documents. Plus, was he duped by the white house . Nancy pelosis theory next. 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He weighs asked to go somewhere. He went there he is cleared. Nothing that is inappropriate, and exactly the opposite. What he did, what he saw and who he met with was 100 percent proper. Eric Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi expressed a lot of suspicions about the visit earlier. It is very bizarre. I have long experience in the intelligence community, served with republican and democratic chairman and ive been the top democrat there myself. I have never seen behavior this bizarre on the part of the chairman. Why would the chairman of the committee go to the white house to get information that they could have conveyed to the president , bring it to the president and then take it to the press. Was he used by the white house. Of course. He was duped. Now, thats the most innocent, most benign characterization that he was duped. But he should have known better. Eric dana, i guess all four the chairman and Ranking Member, the House Intelligence Committee and senate Intelligence Committee were offered this information. Schiff went as a Ranking Member of the house. But neither one of the senators decided to go. Dana the white house could have saved itself a whole bunch of headache if they had just done that in the first place because if it was so routine and proper and the white house wasnt trying to figure out a way to have nunes help them in the press by then going to the press first without talking to his cochairman which he then apologized for and then going to the white house to brief the president on what the white house had just told him, the white house could have all of that by saying okay weve got this information and think its important to the investigation. Were going to invite both the chairman over and get to see it at the same time. If you are cooperating in an investigation, thats just a much cleaner way to do it. Eric juan, let me ask you, what are we going after here . I mean, every day we have chairman nunes on in front of a microphone and then schiff comes out. Senate panels. I mean, what are we trying to do here . It feels like we are really drawing this thing out. Lets get to the evidence. Juan yeah. I think thats what the senate Intelligence Committee is doing. Get to the evidence. They have people lined up. They have people in fact authorized to review these documents. They are trying to do it as quickly as they can. The problem with what we are seeing here is that you are it feels like there is orchestrated effort by the white house to obstruct the congressional investigations and potentially the fbi investigation by doing things like staging this oh, you know, come on over here, congressman, take a look at this. Now go back and say that you found something so the press reports it and then come and say that you are going to brief the president. Wait a minute, we gave you the documents. Why wouldnt the president have seen these documents . Oh, did the president know . So there are lots of questions, eric, that emerge from the fact that they engaged in this charade. Eric can i do a gregism . Greg sure. Eric are the Mainstream Media and the democrats pelosi, schiff, schumer, they have a bad case of russia phobia . Greg they might. Im thinking about sitting out of this segment because you stuarted of with the red hot chili peppers. Its funny to watch pelosi accuse somebody of bizarre behavior like katy perry accusing somebody of being stupid. Im trying to think of one thing nancy pelosi has done. One normal thing maybe stepping down. She was forced to. Dana she does a lot of normal things that you probably dont see. Greg probably privately. We only see the by the way, the crime here. The alleged crime is there private citizen unmasked for purposes. Thats where were taking about the leak. That is something that the media normally would expect from the evil Trump Administration. Or the evil fill in the blank administration. The victim would be the angelic Obama Administration, the liberal progressive administration. They would be the victim. Thats the story line they want so bad. Thats the reason why the story line wont stick because its the reverse. Its the angelic Obama Administration who were doing it to trump. Dana i just wrote down Valerie Plames name here. Greg i couldnt read your handwriting. Dana i was writing upside down. Eric we have been at this four months or. So im still to this day waiting to see the substantiated direct evidence that there is any sort there was any sort of collusion between the two. Why cant we get to this . Lisa we havent. And former fbi director clapper said he hadnt se