United states crossed redlines by attacking syria. From now on, we will respond to anyone, including america, if it attacks syria. Secretary of state Rex Tillerson heads to moscow tomorrow amid these tensions. Can he convince russia to rethink its support for Bashar Alassad . I think the russians have played now for some time the role of providing cover for Bashar Alassads behavior. The alternative explanation that the russians put forth is not plausible. Not only is it not plausible, we know from our own information and opensource information that their alternative explanation is simply not credible. There is little question as to who is responsible for these attacks. It was Bashar Alassad periods. Dana we dont have jennifer. I thought we were going to have jennifer griffin. Im sorry. This is my fault. That was my fault, not the producers fault. A lot of activity over the weekend, and then we had this today from sean spicer, White House Press secretary. When the press was trying to figure out, what is the threshold for further action. I think the president has been very clear there are a number of lines that were crossed last week. Hes not going to sit down. We saw that in the last administration. They drew these redlines and then the red lines were run over. I dont think youre going to see the same play. Not just syria but what the world saw last week, the president is going to act decisively and with justification when it comes to actions like that. I will tell you the answer is if you gas a baby, if you put a barrel bomb on innocent people, you will see a response from this president. Its unacceptable. Dana that line caused some kerfuffle afterwards because it was a question of barrel bombs are used every day. Not using chemical weapons necessarily. So where is the line . A white house spokesperson walked it back into the use of chemical weapons was the target because its in Americas National interest to stop those. Eric when i heard that and i was watching the press conference live, i stopped and took a second look. I thought i heard it incorrectly but i didnt. This is one of those cases where i think sean spicer just made a mistake. The press was wanting to define where the redlines were, chemical weapons, hospitals and schools . Barrel bombs . I think sean went to the lowest of all the denominators accidentally. I think the white house came out quickly and said hold on. Not barrel bombs. Thats not our redline. As we know, literally thousands of barrel bombs have been used against citizens in syria. Just last year alone. Thank god thats not the redlines that i would hope the redline would continue to be chemical weapons and i would hope it wouldnt go beyond that because this is getting a little scary, guys. For all these politicians on the left and the antitrump people who said trump is in bed with putin in russia . He bombed an airspace with the russians in the airspace. He gave them a heads up but this is against everything they want. They come back with stern warnings, dont do it again. You can eliminate this trump in bed with putin type thing. I like what he did. I hope it ends there. Dana not unreasonable to ask the question of what is the line. If you look at president obama and the criticism for him for allowing the redline to be crossed, the line he drew when it was crossed and he didnt do anything, i can understand why people are asking what is the actual redline. Its a hard question to answer when President Trump has set im not going to telegraph my moves. Greg there are two ways to describe the syrian strike. Literally missiles hit a facility and then the actual meeting which is this is exactly the perfunctory bare minimum we will exercise to maintain a a persona of toughness without actually igniting an actual conflict. Russia and america, its not a blind date. We have known these people forever. They have known us forever. It is not like Rex Tillerson doesnt know these people. He runs an oil company, exxon. Putin runs an oil company, russia. They share a common ground. You have an adult conversation when you go to russia like two members of a Gang Organization in which there is somebody in your gang thats making it worse for everybody else. You sit down with russia and say assad is your problem. Hes becoming our problem. We have to react in a moral way which is what we do. This perfunctory bare minimum manner, which is what that strike was. The russians and the americans will meet and they will talk about certain things and they will go on their merry way. Dana it might not be all that mary, given the other entity we havent talked about is iran. They have an interest as well but how do you think that fits . Kimberly makes it more complex in terms of the level of interest and intentions in the geopolitical area. Iran and russia, maintaining the presence in syria and trying to help assad is costing them millions of dollars every month. There is one thing for sure russia cares about and it is the black sea. That is something they are going to for sure, thats the redline. They have to find a way where they can, in terms of elections coming up, putin needs to have a facesaving way to exit some of that support out of that area because it is getting sticky. Mcmaster said rethink your support of this murderous regim regime, backing the sod, committing mass murder of his own people. To what extent on what length are you going to come up against the United States that is prepared to act. Dana what about, bob, over the weekend, too much is being made out of Ambassador Haley saying regime change was necessary. Tillerson we have to do isis first and then we can deal with assad. Both of those things can be true, right . Bob they can be done at the same time. The russians are not about to get out of syria. They needed geopolitically. Did you notice the two people who came out, the two countries came out of support of syria were russia and iran and the syrian allies. And i think the idea that tillerson is going to convince the russians of anything is a fools game. The russians have a lot more at stake here, which is the expansion of russia into the old parts of russia that used to be the ussr. I think they see assad to help him. Dana russia said their support, their support of the sod was not unconditional. Ap reports, fox cannot confirm, whether russia knew about and i guess would be complicit in the chemical attacks. If they said its not unconditional, maybe that is an opening for tillerson. Eric i hope so. So russia is going to go into this thing, were going to hold tough. Over the weekend, russia decided to send some destroyers to the region in case we did go ahead and drop another bomb or two on syria, for whatever reason. The other ap report you cited. There was another report about the same time that said the Russian Air Force bombed a hospital where some of the victims were being treated just to cover up some of the chemical weaponry being used. This is what ive been saying for a long time. When you start peeling away this onion and there is more and more going on in more Foreign Policy, more people are willing maybe to heighten the rhetoric, you are jumping into scary places. That is why sean spicers comment today about a barrel bomb had to be walked back quickly. No, no, thats not where we are going. Youre basically telling the world there is more coming. Assad is not going to stop bombing his own people. Here is the question, is the Geneva Convention your redline . The Geneva Convention clearly states you cannot bomb hospitals and schools and thats been going on for really long time. Bob theres a number of treaters and conventions that they are not supposed to use chemical weapons as well. Eric keep chemical weapons as, this is the one thats going to push us over the redline, then you are carving out an area where its not really our fault that were going to have to do this in retribution of what youre doing. If you start taking these lower levels of redlines that have been drawn internationally, you are opening us up dana let me ask the last question to greg. Bob when mattis said we will think about using weapons. Dana it jumps the queue in that they are still trying to figure things out. You dont have to have an established doctrine on your 81st day of your presidency. Greg, the conflicting public signals. On the one hand you had about 57 of americans approving of the strikes and the strong stance President Trump took and yet you have a strong disapproval for any additional further actions. Greg people appreciate things that already happened that turned out okay but they are uncertain about things in the future that might turn out wrong. I want to give some advice to Rex Tillerson before he goes to russia. Before you get comfortable in the hotel room, check for cameras. In russia, the tv watches you. Dana dont put on a good show. A new attack on christians in egypt on one of the holiest days of the year, yesterday, palm sunday. Isis has taken responsibility. The world must not look away from this crisis. Next. What makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever . Heart healthy california walnuts. The best simple veggie dish ever . Heart healthy california walnuts. The best simple dinner ever . Heart healthy california walnuts. Great tasting, heart healthy california walnuts. So simple. Get the recipes at walnuts. Org. You totanobodys hurt, new car. But there will still be pain. It comes when your Insurance Company says theyll only pay threequarters of what it takes to replace it. What are you supposed to do . Drive threequarters of a car . 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As we work out disputes with russia or china, there will never be a way to work out anything with these fiends. Even the heinous actions of assad somehow seems less heinous even though hundreds of thousands died under him. Isis makes everyone look worse. Raising the bar for all evil. Radical islam cannot be reasoned with, only obliterated. It is harder than hitting an airfield. Thats the advantage of sending out cultists to blow people up. Retaliation is messy. At least we are trying and will continue to hunt this garbage down. Such garbage will never truly and as long as there are newer methods of technology and communications, the threat will mutate. Its up to us to never look away from the carnage lest we forget its also meant for us. Someone needs to reclaim the concept of heaven from these primitives. Their view is that life is just a delay, one can speed up if you kill a lot of people. The pope heads to egypt this month. Maybe he can address that instead of climate change. Kimberly, another ultimate soft targets . This is what they do. Its sad that its not surprising. Kimberly you think there would be more outrage on behalf of christians that are being murdered and slaughtered and some sold into slavery. When they have to flee their homes and try to come back to them, they have found their homes have been in fact sold or titles to their property given away. This is really atrocious and a horrible genocide essentially happening against christians. Worldwide, they have been suffering tremendous persecution. This is another example of it in further evidence that isis needs to be put down. Greg they declared a state of emergency in egypt. I feel like they world should just have a state of emergency with isis, always on guard. Dana we have the terror alert after 9 11. It was always yellow to red. That is the state of the world. President trump met with the president of egypt last week on monday, abdel fattah alsisi. After a busy Foreign Policy week, he was able to have a call with him and establish a relationship where he said he believes he will be able to address it. With a lot of the soft targets, and you saw the attack in sweden on friday i guess it was. We cant protect ourselves by the only way to help protect ourselves as we go after them. We have to be on offense. Greg there was a Second Attack partially foiled by three Police Officers who died. Cops died. Again, the police are always the people who run into danger as others run away. Eric it is scary. One of the churches is where the coptic pope called his home. He goes there often. I fear for pope francis when he visits there. I hope they have it locked down, especially when sisi says we are making progress against isis. I dont know. You are 100 right. There is basically no hard targets. Everything is a soft target when a suicide bomber walks up to a group of people and blows himself up. That is the world were living in. Greg bob, you have been outspoken on this topic. Bob i get more outraged by the minute. Cops and christians have been around that area of the world well before there were any muslims there. The idea that they would do this, and its been going on for a long time. The Coptic Christians have been under attack. We talked about this five years ago. The pope was there, he was in the church appeared he barely got out, there pope. I wonder whether the egyptians are doing everything they possibly can, but what really upsets me is not a single muslim head of state, a single muslim cleric or cair has said a single thing about this. I think the idea that we all say, isnt this terrible . These are Coptic Christians on one of the highest holy days of the year and yet these guys get in there and blow them up. It say something. Dont be such cowards. Say something. Greg this is a montage of the administration on the priorities. Isis or assad, who do you defeat . What is the priority in syria . Assads removal or defeating isis . We can have multiple priorities. Of course it is to defeat isis but weve got to do that for peace and stability. Our priority is in syria really hasnt changed. The president has been quite clear. First and foremost, we must defeat isis. As you saw with the strike, there has to be a degree of simultaneous activity as well as sequencing of the defeat of isis first. Greg we dont have to make the choice. Dana it all has to be done. Kimberly its not mutually exclusive. You can do both, and you need to, in fact. Eric it comes down to, listen, there are people who disagree with this but isis and the rebels seem to have a very intertwined relationship, and that is against assad. At some point, who wants to be the country that steps in and said weve got this. If youre going to get rid of assad, youre going to get rid of vices, you are left with a rebel group. Bob several rebel groups, that is the problem. We know assad is our enemy and he needs to be gone. Greg we turn to the north korean threat. Happy show. The pentagon has an armada sailing to their waters. Are we going to take military action soon . What the Trump Administration says next. Usaa gives me the peace of mind and the security just like the marines did. The process through usaa is so effortless, that you feel like youre a part of the family. I love that i can pass the membership to my children. Were the williams family, and were usaa members for life. Eric welcome back to the five. We turn to a hot spot, north korea, a socialist communist dictator kim jongun is taunting the region and the u. S. With threats of going nuclear. U. S. Responding with a show of force. The pentagon has rerouted a Aircraft Carrier strike group. Uss carl vinson on its way wayo the peninsula. It is prudent to do it, isnt it . North korea has been engaged in a pattern of provocative behavior. This is a rogue regime that is now a Nuclear Capable regime, and president xi and President Trump agreed its unacceptable. What must happen is the denuclearization of the peninsula. It has reached a certain level of threat that action has to be taken. Eric nothing like 100,000 tons of diplomacy headed to the korean and insula. Will it work . Kimberly this guy is even crazier than his father, and thats really unbelievable that he could exceed that. He fed an uncle to dogs. This is who you are dealing with. This is going to have to be some serious action to try to get this guy to stop what hes doing. Specifically china has to play a huge role in reining him in. Hopefully some of that discussion took place this past weekend. Eric tillerson said the chinese president and trump agreed something needs to happen. He is a little unstable, kim jongun. Bob yeah, the thing that worries me about this is im not so sure, as i said before, the chinese have as much control over the North Koreans as we think they do. North koreans have had major artillery pointing at china. Chinas biggest fear is they are going to have to have to be inundated with millions of refugees. Here is the problem. Lets assume we go in there and bomb the 20 or 30 sites we know are responsible for developing their nuclear weapons. Who is to keep this madman from launching 75,000 artillery shells that are not nuclear at south korea . Eric i dont know. Kimberly thats the problem. Eric they sent the carrier group. Can we pull up that map . The map shows north korea, south korea, proximity to china. China is putting 150,000 troops along the border so they dont get the mass exodus of refugees. Dana already there is a humanitarian disaster in north korea