Cards. But dont expect a deal from the democrats. Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority leader nancy pelosi already saying no thanks. We told the president about meeting that we were open to reasonable Border Security measures alongside the dream act. But this list go so far beyond what is reasonable, this proposal fails to represent any attempt to compromise. The president s counselor has this message for critics. They should be calling their friends chuck and nancy to say are you going to give up the deal because, why dont you want a border wall constructed . Why dont you want more Immigration Judges and agents . Why is it a reasonable policy to limit chain migration and stop the visa overstates and make sure people following the law breaking allowance they are here, go back. Kimberly jesse, what do you make of the plan . The democrats pushing back but trump, a. K. A. The wall, pushing forward. Jesse crying chuck needs to put down the New York Times. This is classic trump. Dial it back and get 75 of what you want. I am sick of hearing its a nonstarter. According to democrats, anything the republicans propose is a nonstarter. I understand why. Republicans in congress have caved and buckled for the last eight years. Its a twopronged strategy. Insert the wall and at the last minute, dial it back and then you look like you are flexible and a big leader. Or you take the wall to the limit and make the democrats look like rigid radicals. He still has a trump card. He can extend daca if he doesnt like the terms. He controls the whole debate. The issue is the wall isnt as popular as protecting dreamers. I dont think trumpcare is about polling and i think is basis going to stay within the matter what. Either he does care about dreamers. Polling and i think nis basis jesse he does but he also cares about the wall. Greg i am a dreamer. I dream about the wall. These are green cards, not gift cards. Whats wrong with a little bit of process, a little bit of rules . I dont think its that big of a deal but 70 points. Thats a lot of points. Can you imagine being can you imagine being in that meeting. 47 more points. Gillian it is refreshing to hear you talk about rules and process in such a respectful way. Greg its an interesting point because the argument that the democrats have about immigration is exactly the opposite of their argument for gun control. They dont want laws. Immigration, why do we need more laws . We need sanctuary. But thats exactly opposite the guncontrol argument which is we need more laws. We need more friction. We need to slow things down. But they cant do it with immigration. I find that very interesting. That can work both ways. You can say someone who argues against gun control laws, why do they want laws for immigration . Jesse i like the first way better. Kimberly governor jerry brown doing that with california, essentially making it a sanctuary state. They want to make their own laws and play by their own rules. Hello, juan. Greg welcome back. Juan good to be here. I see it so differently because i realized there was a deal in place, a deal between the president and chuck and nancy. And then the president had a group of republican senators who say we think youre pushing us out, mr. President. We dont like it. Why dont we look at some principles we can employ with regard to immigration . Having struck a deal with chuck and nancy, guess what. Greg call them chancy. Greg he says heres my principal. Wait a second. Nobody does business this way. Nobody does a deal where its all on my terms or no terms or the highway, and thats what he did. When the democrats he excuse us, thats not the deal we discussed. Because they had agreed, by the way, jesse, to add security on the border as part of the deal. They had agreed they want everify. They want so many of these things. Trump has gone back and undone the deal. I agree with what jillian said. I have read trump saying he cares about the dreamers. He would not want to do anything to hurt the dreamers. Jesse but we dont want more dreamers. We have to wake up eventually. Juan the dreamers are a circumscribed group. You cant add more. Jesse sure, you can. You have more coming over and bringing children, hence more dreamers. Kimberly i saw the look on gregs face. Leave leave it out of it. Chancy. Theme song, abba. Jillian, i like what youre saying. The president isnt trying to be meanspirited. Hardworking americans who came here, perhaps snowfall directly of their own. Is there a way to kind of make both sides happy and little bits. With the democrats be obstructionist . Now you see chancy saying we have no bid for this. Gillian i was surprised to see. What worries me in this proposal there is an element of using the dreamers as a negotiating chip. President trump has taken great care in many speeches, many public remarks to talk about the fact that emotionally and psychologically he connects with the idea that america should be a place to welcome these people. So i was disappointed by that come about my own political stuff aside for a second, i think the proposal submitted yesterday is really the administrations answer to the criticism that President Trump received in the wake of the failed health care appeal which is that he was not invested personally. He was not involved in the process. He was not down in the nittygritty, figuring stuff out, trying to help congress. Coming up with the specifics. This is something that is chockablock full of specifics. No one can levy that criticism again. I think that was the priority, cobbling together a plan. Kimberly i want to put the point out that of the president has been willing to reach across to the democrats to try to find some common ground. He is doing that even right now with Chuck Schumer as it relates to health care and saying i am willing to do a deal. It can use it at the table . He is. You cant say hes not. He has reached out. Juan isnt he trying to undercut the Health Care Deal . Kimberly when are the democrats going to reach across and say we are actually going to try to do something in the best interest of the country. Gillian you dont sit down for negotiation and put out your lowest number. Greg it is what jesse said. A 70point plan isnt what he is expecting to get. If he can get 30 points, its a win. It also exposes the fact that chancey did not read this because they didnt get give specifics. You brought up the point about how hes using daca as a chip. Brilliant on his part because it wasnt a chip. He is still using it. He says you can have it. You knew he was never going to send those kids back, or the families back. He fabricated a chip out of something that wasnt a chip. Gillian if congress doesnt get this done, do you think you will go back with an executive fixed the problem . Greg no, i dont think so. Jesse the base would freak out. Politicians use chips all the time. They use the military as a bargaining chip during the debt ceiling. Democrats dont want to secure the border. They like illegal immigration. They want to keep criminal illegal aliens in the country. They dont want them deported. They are all for infrastructure except the wall. Build everything in america. The wall is going to be made in america too, juan. Dont you like that . Juan i hope so because it was going to be paid for by the mexicans. Gillian jesse hasnt given up on it. Juan i didnt know we were on fantasy island. One of the arguments that came from the dreamers, remember when they got in Nancy Pelosis face in san francisco. What were they saying . They were saying dont use us as a football in your negotiations with donald trump. Dont give into added security for this and added funding for that. We believe we have a case to make the American People want us to stay. Why are you guys making it a political football. Nancy pelosi, she ran off the stage. You enjoyed that moment. Jesse i very much did. Juan so now here comes donald trump and he is in trouble with the republicans and says wait a second. I have principles. He is changing the deal, jesse. Thats not art of the deal. Jesse sounds like a good deal to me. Juan reneging on a deal. Jesse he said he wanted massive border funding. Juan border funding. Jesse it was a handshake deal. Juan if a democratic did this, you would be through the roof, jesse watters. Greg when you compare exit questions, mcglocklin group. If you compare illegal immigration to the russian meddling, why is one foreign influence okay and the other no not. Gillian i dont think thats a fair greg its a great question. Gillian it is a nonstarter nonstarter. Greg you know why its not fair, its a great question. It can have an impact on your elections and what you do but russian meddling cant. Jesse great point. Juan one is a domestic issue for us as americans. Greg they are not domestic domestic. There are russians here too. I can tell you. Gillian the idea of foreigners, registering, voting without registering. Footing illegally, that myth is largely dispelled. Greg im talking about demonstrations. Keep up. Kimberly you are on a timeout. Not a word from you during the entire commercial break. Juan jillian, i think he is a russian. Gillian i wouldnt put it past you. Kimberly coming up, more National Anthem protests this weekend for the nfl, the Vice President takes a stand. Thats next. Stay with us. What powers the digital world. Communication. Thats why a cutting Edge University counts on centurylink to keep their global campus connected. And why a Pro Football Team chose us to deliver fiberenabled broadband to more than 65,000 fans. 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Greg take the statue down jesse what are we going to do . Greg the idea that you are concluding that its a stunt does not make you intelligent. He knew this was going to happen. Its a stunt. So what . The media uses every crisis as a stunt. If one side can posts, if the nfl can pull publicity or political stones, why cant the Vice President do the same thing . I think they basically spiked the football on the nfl and i think its hilarious. You responded with a political stones and a publicity stunt against one that is caused so much divisiveness. I think its great. Just admit it. It was a stunt. So what . I love stunts . Juan why are you doing this . Why are you undercutting me. Something is wrong with him today. I think it is the russian guy. Jesse wasnt as stunned . He has a son who is active duty in the marine corps. Maybe he was very upset. Juan from all we hear, he spoke to trump right before. He tells the people in the press dont get out of your cars because im going to leave soon. Looks like every indication is it was a stunt. Jesse it was an effective stage. Kimberly i dont think it was a stunt. Pushing back, pushing back. Hes a huge fan of the colts. Why wouldnt he be there . Wearing the jersey, the whole thing. This was planned ahead of time. He should support the president. Juan you said it was planned ahead of time. Kimberly the event for him to attend the game. He was going to be there. The 49ers, by the way, colin kaepernick. I will play for any team. Im going to stand out. No problem, no kneeling. Thats the other latest thing. Greg i think he is pushing back on that. Jesse someone said that is fake news. I would like to hear from colin kaepernick. Greg i would like to go sock shopping. Jesse jerry jones, owner of the dallas cowboys, that all the players are going to stand. If you dont stand, youre going to get trouble. What do you think . Gillian i think its fair. The nfl, as weve discussed, has clear guidelines distributed to the players about what conduct on the field during, before, after the game is supposed to look like. That said, there is some distance between you and i on this. I think nobody is really pulling a stunt here in the sense that everybody is exercising grievances in a legitimate way. They are exercising their constitutional rights. They players kneeling on the players standing. The American People who are boycotting games, the Vice President. Everyone has legitimate grievances and i think thats okay for all of this to be going on. The people that i put in the center of this and i put a lot of the blame on is the nfl because they have very clearly issued guidelines and they are reneging on them. They have not put forward jesse they are scared of their players and i know that from a wellplaced source. A lot of owners are afraid that they players are going to do this and i dont want to come down too hard on them. That they are going to kneel and its going to be bad for business. Kimberly remember the baseball strike. That didnt work out so well for baseball. Gillian so far this is in their financial interest. All of the attention on the nfl. Jesse the ratings dont really prove that. Juan, let me ask you. Jamele hill was just suspended. Fair or unfair . Juan when she does things repeatedly. According to espn, they spoke with her and not suspended her after the first comments. She represents the company. By that standard i would apply to myself as an employee of fox, im not free to go out there and say things that would be contrary to foxs best interest interests. I do work for fox and i am a proud employee of this company. I think she understood she broke a rule that i think i am interested in knowing how other people, especially other black people at espn, react. The first time when there was some question about what she had done and whether or not she should be off the air, everybody said no. In this case, i think jemele hill knows intentionally, broke a rule knows she intensively iy broker rule. Jesse they are 219 since this kneeling thing began. Greg the thing that kills me and i know it kills kimberly. This is one of the greatest teams. And its like you cant even remember that. What drives me nuts about this is if you endorse patriotic symbolism, the media will mock you. You are so oldfashioned. But if you resist patriotic symbolism, they have they elevate you. Thats the bottom line issue. If you mock something considered traditionally american, its great. Jesse but they are hanging you want to drive because the majority of the country disagrees. Kimberly how about put some wins on the board. They are shaming the 49er dynasty that played so well back in the day. Juan this is your segment but can i ask you. I dont understand. This has nothing to do with the flag or the anthem. Nobody is trying to say they dont like america. They are saying they have a graver grievance. 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