Things change, right . You never gave a final order . No, no, no, no. We had something ready to go subject to my approval. They came in and they came in about a half an hour before they said we are about ready to go. I said. Like in the air . Were planes in the air. About ready to go. No, but they would have been pretty soon and things would have happened to a point where you wouldnt turn back or couldnt turn back. We are ready to go, we would like a decision how many people would be killed . In this case iranians . I said how many people are going to be killed . Sir, i would like to get back to you on that. Great people, these generals. They said came back and said, sir, approximately 150. And i thought about it for a second and i said you know what . They shot down an unmanned drone, plane, whatever you want to call it and here we are sitting with 150 dead people that would have taken place probably within a half an hour after i said go ahead. Yeah. And i didnt like it. I didnt think it was i didnt think it was proportionate. Jesse the democrats and the media spent days worrying the president would bumble us into war. Now that he has shown restraint they are singing a quite different tune. Donald trumps approach is to threaten, to bully, to insult, and then to pull back. A president has to be strong on behalf of the United States not on behalf of the of these authoritarian figures that he keeps trying to relate to. What he has done is demonstrate to the iranians that he is a twitter tiger. There is fear in him. And the iranians are expert calculator when 2 comes to figuring out the fear thats in their enemies. I think they have got this guys number. Jesse the iranians have our number. All right, greg. Break this down for us. Greg sure, let me break this down for you, jesse. Weird that donald trump has made it okay for republicans to be antiwar. This is what we noticed with this unusual phenomenon that is trump that s. That he is not your typical republican, okay . By being antiwar, now the media has transformed into becoming these craven hawks. Like now they are going like why arent you doing this . Its kind of weird when you see, because i like bret and some of these people, but they are kind of like goading him. They are suggesting that there is some kind of weakness by not killing these people. And so what theyre basically saying is you should go to war. We talked about this yesterday. We were trying to figure out what is the response that feels right to the downing of a drone . I said yesterday its stuff vs. Stuff. And thats progress. Because we are not throwing bodies at each other anymore. And the media seems like they miss that. They want to have the bodies. They want to have the pileup. And what we are seeing right now is i think its progress towards a new way of dealing with a threat thats been around for 40 years. Jesse the media only wants the bodies because the day before they didnt want the bodies. Its a reaction to what President Trump did and it shows you how unprincipled they are, kennedy. Kennedy i think this is great. And the fact that this president this is one of my favorite aspects about his personality not only the antiinterventionism its one of the bigger concerns with iran is who has his ear . Im always troubled when its mike pompeo and john bolton because i think they are impulsive and a little trigger happy but then you have people like his daughter ivanka and if you remember, he dropped missiles on air base because of some of the images from bashar assad and the russians gassing syrians with chlorine gas. But the fact that were seeing a president take a measured approach and actual not make excuses but talk about a body count and show some empathy, i think that, to gregs point, making phenomenal progress and always very disconcerting when you have people on the left and i lump Hillary Clinton into this category who have never worn the uniform, they have never served. They are some of the ones so quick to thrust us into these incursions. Jesse are you worried though, doug, this deterrence factor sometimes you need disproportionate reaction when someone does something at that level. The iranians are vicious killers. Theyre threatening the state of israel. They are the ones who destabilize syria, kept bashar assad in power. The Republican Guard only understands one thing, power. I think in fairness the president s explanation makes sense but what i think we lack is a strategy as to how we are going to deal with future incursions because there is a sense among nations in the middle east that we dont have the power and fervour that we need to confront radical islam and terrorism. While in the shortterm i can agree with what you and kennedy and greg are saying in the longer term im worried that we dont have a clear and cogent strategy. Kennedy appeasing iran would be a better idea . Hitting them would have been better. Letting them know. Kennedy hitting them . You dont mind if that means creating funerals and bodies. We have created funerals all over the middle east and indeed there is venezuela now. Kennedy we should probably drop a couple Nuclear Devices on iran by that logic absolutely. They kill people, we should kill more people. You are mocking me and mocking a proportionate response. Kennedy contend im not mocking you im using a add sufferedum. Greg have you gone over my head, kennedy and i dont like that. Jesse one of the strategies Unmanned Aircraft maybe you take a step back being the behemoth that we are we give it some time and see what happens maybe they come to the table. If there is a human being, an american in that plane, i guarantee you that those retaliatory strikes would have been swift and firm. Emily im thinking 100 percent but i wasnt going to say it until then. Absolutely. The benefit of todays occurrences is that, one, it gave iran an incredible scare that theyre one step or were one step away from something that they would pay dearly for. Those in the military were deeply surprised by this decision by the president but i think it had that twofold benefit of showing iran that we were seriously and secondly of dealing it in the media. We nipped it in the bud with a left leaning media. If trump had proceeded with either the Cyber Attacks that whole spectrum we discussed yesterday if he had pursued the financial choke holds in terms of the elicit financial mechanisms Republican Guard and neighboring countries then they still would be talking about through the this entire decision well he is bringing us to the brink of war and what happens if. This he is blustering there always would have been what if. I love that he went there already so now he explains transparently why he backed away and we can proceed with lesser measures. Jesse do you know what bothers me is you now have john kerry and former Obama AdministrationForeign Policy officials that have been actively speaking and vood aadvising Iranian Regime shooting our drones out of the sky thats a huge problem. Greg issue like vaughn longterm issue take decades. The media doesnt like that. We dont know whats going on and there could be stuff thats happening between iran and the United States right now that we have no clue and could all look really foolish tomorrow. The fact is trump has always been kind of willing to take the longer term approach. Im not that interested in bombing them right now. Maybe i might bomb them later. Kennedy i think the unpredictability is also what makes him a little bit more successful in the Foreign Policy arena. You talk about the fact that he didnt hit iran and didnt kill iranians and doesnt have a Foreign Policy strategy neither do any of the 23 democrats. I have not seen their policy papers. That doesnt make Donald Trumps approach any better. I want predictability. Greg i dont. I do. Kennedy telegraph exactly what you are doing. Jesse enemies want predictability. Enemies are kept on their toes when they dont know what the commanderinchief is going to do. 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For his posture to be for me i have done nothing wrong, you should apologize, im not a racist is so insulting and missing the larger point. Is joe biden a return to the past . He is. And that cannot be who we are going forward. Is joe biden wrong . Yes we do not pass laws that take away that freedom from women who are the most vulnerable. If you look at my reckoning and my reckoning, i dont think there is much question about who is more progressive. Doug lets give joe a break thats the sentiments from some democrats including this democrats who want the attacks against bide to stop because they think it will ultimately help trump. According to the hill, quote lawmakers feel the 2020 democratic president ial primary field is becoming a circular firing squad with trump winding up as the burb area of internicing fighting. I got that out, kennedy. Kennedy yes, you did. Doug what do you think of that . Kennedy have you so many candidates running they have it differentiate themselves at some point. If you wait too long like Steven Bullock you get left behind the pell ton. So you really have a clump of candidates who are double digits behind biden and they have to do something and unfortunately joe biden gave them an entree for this kind of criticism that really sticks to him this is the hardest aspect of his past to explain away. He hasnt done a good job of that he has opened himself up to that and theyre the ones who stepped in to try to score political points which is what do you in an election. Doug jesse, i think this is mostly unfair attack on joe biden. Do you agree with me . Jesse poor joe. Be nice to the frontrunner. He is so fragile. It doesnt feel confident that democrats are whispering about letting joe skate by. I think what was it 2008 obama attacked the frontrunner hillary, beat her and won the general. Donald trump attack would frontrunner and you want a competitive primary because you want the eventual nominee come out battletested last time bernie said i dont care about hillarys. Kennedy damn emails. Jesse dumb. Hurt bernie and ultimately hurt Hillary Hillary could not defend her emails effectively because she wasnt forced to form late a strategy. He is so vulnerable and he has a glass jaw. To now be whining and strategizing this early before the first debate crying mercy . Doug i guess you are not so sympathetic. Jesse looks so weak, doug. Doug are you so spam they thick for biden . Emily no. Jesse welcome to the the five. Emily we saw this in 2006 when they said basically look leave hillary alone joe is the establishment candidate. The difference in 2016 hillary had that air of inevitability biden doesnt have that they are not interested in the v. P. Situation. They are not worried about their careers if he takes the cabinet. I dont think it will come to that the ones toeing the line oh i was pushing you on an issue that is important to the base. Its clear that no one else thinks that he is the inevitable frontrunner except for trumps polster who says he believes its going to be elizabeth warren. Doug i think there is a good shot there could be one. Greg, do you think he will get taken down . Greg i will meet you in the sympathetic world briefly. Doug thank you. Greg joe was trying to make the point he could work with anyone ironically he is talking about democrats who now dont want to work with him. Its a rich, full circle like that movie the lion king . Kennedy the circle of life, greg. Greg i feel bad for joe until i remember that he has pulled the very same crap on republicans. The smear machine created by the left is that crocodile that will ultimately eat everybody and you think you will be safe but it will eat you too. He is the one that said trump didnt condemn White Supremacy when he did. He said romney was going to put yall back in chains. He has smeared people who essentially voted for trump. He has made his bed with the smear machine and unfortunately he has to lie in that bed. Jesse thats by he is so sleepy you walked right into it. Kennedy kennedy you want to reach out and show you can work with the other side talk about john mccain and mike pence. Doug i think this is where it needs to go. He blew it by talking about eastland greg he talked about him before a lot. Doug i know that. Jesse he has been telling the same story for years. Greg he is now in a new world where it doesnt matter. Doug up next new drama in the Jussie Smollett case and dominican officials down play the wave of mysterious play the wave of mysterious deaths. My experience with usaa has been excellent. They really appreciate the military family and it really shows. With all that usaa offers why go with anybody else . 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The judge saying that foxx did not have the right to assign her top deputy to lead the case after she colloquially recused herself in a statement foxx said that she degree disagrees with e judges decision. Emily, this is really fascinating, you are a lawyer, can you explain this better. I was wondering if there was some double jeopardy here but the special prosecutor said no they can reopen the case and Jussie Smollett can be charged once again with all 16 counts fewer or even more. Yes, and anyone else that has been caught up in this can be charged as well. I want to point out for viewers a couple things. Number on