[cheers] as we gather this evening in the joy of freedom we remember that all share a truly extraordinary heritage. Together, we are part of one of the greatest stories ever told, the story of america. It is the chronicle of brave citizens who never give up on the dream of a better and brighter future. To this day, that spirit runs through the veins of every american patriot. It lives on in each and every one of you here today. It is the spirit daring and in defiance excellence in adventure. Courage and confidence. Loyalty and love that built this country into the most exceptional nation in the history of the world and our nation is stronger today than it ever was before. For americans, nothing is impossible. Juan a the Washington Post oped writer praised the president saying quote trump made his critics look small during the salute to america unquote. But 2020 democrats they still had some harsh words for the event. Its become a day where its all about trump rather than our country and vision and vision our had for us. If he really cares about the men and women who serve in our nation he would be investing in higher pay, better housing and better healthcare. I think we need money to go into affordable housing. I think we need money to go into rebuilding our infrastructure. Im not quite sure we need money to go in to put tanks in downtown washington, d. C. Donald trump is handing out tickets to his big donors. Thats a campaign event. And if he is going to do a campaign event, then it should be paid for by his campaign convictions. It should not be paid for by the american taxpayer. Juan anna kooiman, good to see you. Great to see you too. Juan you know we love you here at fox. An an happy to be back. First time on the five. Good to be here. Juan did you see it. Of course i did. I actually was watching from an airplane. I was heading back from charleston, South Carolina after doing our proud american coverage there and feeling extra patriotic on the heels of that anyway. I thought i was having a spiritual experience. If you are an american watching this and doesnt matter how you felt about the president before this speech, it was 3w50u68 and incredible. The democrats you stlawt democrats saying he is just doing this for himself. Is he throwing himself a parade. He didnt say anything about himself. He spoke about decorated military veterans. He talked about astronauts. He talked about civil rights leaders. He talked about american exceptionalism, he put politics aside for this. I was impressed. You remember when he was on the campaign trail in 2016 and he said im going to be so president ial when i want to be i will be boring. He wasnt boring he certainly was president ial. He left his slings and arrows for another day. I thought it was perfect and had the perfect tone. Juan one of the critics mock him for saying coincidental army was going to an airport clearing out an airport. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. I know a lot of people didnt give obama the benefit of the doubt when he said 57 states when he was campaigning. Im going to give the president the benefit of the doubt. Look at you, juan. Juan fourth of july. What did you think . Well, i think that his critics looked pretty dumb yesterday. All of them that said that this was going to be a Trump Campaign rally, have yall been to a Trump Campaign rally that was nothing like a Trump Campaign rally. They talk about multiple things. The crowd is much rowdier and trump talked about himself and not america and his greatness as well. I think the president showed that he was pig to put politics aside and talk about whats betts for the country and how to move forward. A lot of people said it was boring because he gave a History Lesson. I think its important that we remember our history so we dont repeat it as well there were some critics that talked about the military and the president flexing when it came to showing our great military. Look, this has been a president that has been very restrained when it comes to military force. So if he wants to flex to show the world this is how you defend freedom. This is what we have to offer, i think that is to be applauded instead of sending our military into harms way. Juan all right. So, tammy, let me get serious with you for just a second. Tammy no. All right. Juan you what you Elizabeth Warren said there he didnt have his donors pay for this event even though they had reserved seating and tickets. He could have and im sure some of them would have paid for it. Instead it was the u. S. Park service that went, you know, millions of dollars, taken out of their budget. Budget money that could have gone to parks or helping young people to go to visit parks. What do you say to that . Tammy you know, when you win the presidency there are benefits to that, right . You also invite people to the white house who supported you and are your supporters. Thats part of the natural process heemple the Natural Parks Service we had about 2. 25 million nobody was clutching their pearls in 2016 when the National Park service spent 30 million for their own 100 year anniversary. And, i think all of that is a distraction. I think what have you got here worrying about the president talking about himself, there is only one group of people talking constantly about donald trump. And its the democrats. He is still in the building mode. He has condominiums in their head and its the most affordable living situation. Bernie sanders wants affordable living, he is living in their heads for free. There is no rent. I think there is a loft projection going on. He is the center of their universe. You may disagree with this, but tough admit. They think they are going to win the presidency based on obsessing about donald trump. Maybe you have changed a little bit about what happened yesterday. They are afraid that as the American People watch Something Like that, people are transformed and realize that they have been lied to for the past three years about this man. Juan you think it would persuade people who are not protrump. I think. So we have already seen it. When people with the Mueller Report as an example. After all the stuff with cnn and it was not what they said it was going to be, already people have realized they have been lied to about serious issues. They have retreated, you know, when it comes to ratings and who they are listening. To say thats a sign that the American People want the truth, they want information, and they are tired of being lied. To say. Juan i disagree. I love the fourth of july. And i just didnt want politics brought in. Lawrence if he would have paid the money would it be over . Juan welcome, by the way first time you are sitting on this set. Jon i know. Very cool. Juan you are welcome. Thank you for coming today. John, lets go beyond politics for a second. What did you think as a cultural about the event . John the men and women who serve in our military are not democrats or republicans or independence. They are everybody that serves in the military. I think honestly the president did a Great Service to the military in respecting that fact and not going into a partisan angle when he was watching. I watched the entire thing. I kept waiting for him to go hard to his base or whatever, and he never did it. I mean i heard everybody from Jacque Robinson to john glenn talked about in these speeches. And even for me these names start coming up. And you remember these powerful, powerful americans and entrepreneurs and great talents that only could have succeeded like that had they lived in our country and military as strong as ours to protect their right to become great Baseball Players or astronauts or actors or all the great people he was naming. I thought he did a great job by saying right on the message. To say me it was almost like a History Lesson a refresher course going through every Single Branch of the military. Pointing out great people that do great things. Here comes the actual hardware. Flying right over the top of the Washington Monument and you are like wow. I mean, i think for americans, for me it was a moment of pride to see all of that come together in one moment. And also, i think around the world, they are watching that going yeah, they have got america is no joke. And look at how our principles of this country have developed so many incredible americans. We invented rock and roll and Country Music and r and b and the automobile all the things he started reminding us up. Jazz. Reminds you how great our country is and its great because its free. Juan i think he said Alexander Graham belle but the canadians said it was the canadians. Tammy what was the president going to do he had a great speech at normandy. His state of the Union Addresses have been universally praised. This is not a surprise. And, as you have said, he said im going to be president ial. People continue to under estimate him and this is why they get blind sided. Juan anna, you were going to make a point. I was going to say it really delegitimizes the Cable Networks when they come out with knives for trump at a time when he is clearly knocking it out of the park, right . I think, of course we aired it. I was flipping back and forth between us and cnn since its part of my job okay how are they covering it . I just i think they really missed the mark. They are grasping at straws and trying to be negative. Lawrence just pate money and shut up about the money aspect of it because its not about the money. Juan next on the five 2020 front runner joe biden was knocked off balance following that first debated. Now the former Vice President on the rebound firing back at all of his critics. Going to take some time to do the things we never had hey, who are you . Oh, hey jeff, im a car thief. What . im here to steal your car because, well, thats my job. What . What . . What . laughing what . . What . what . [crash] what . haha, it happens. And if youve got cutrate Car Insurance, paying for this could feel like getting robbed twice. So get allstate. And be better protected from mayhem. Like me. Fine. No one leaves the table fine well sleep here. Its the easiest, because its the cheesiest kraft. For the win win. Were you prepared for them to come after you . I was prepared for them to come after me. But i wasnt prepared for the person coming at me the way she came at me. She knew bo. She knows me. I dont anyway heres the deal. What i do know and the good and bad news. American people think they know me and they know me. Lawrence former v. P. Revealing how he plans to take down donald trump. How do you beat him . I beat him by just pointing out who i am and who he is and what im for and he is against. This guy is commanderinchief. This guy is acting with racist policies. This guy is acting to foment hate. Thats the only way can he sustain himself. The idea that i would be intimidated by donald trump . He is the bully that i knew my whole life. He is the bully that i have always stood up. To say he is the bully that used to make funnel when i was a kid and stutter and i would smack them in the mouth. Lawrence juan, he talks a tough game but when Kamala Harris had him against the rope he said no mas timeout. Juan he gave the impression he wasnt ready to be challenged in that way. If thats true. Thats big trouble. He should have known as the frontrunner, there were long knives ready for him. Thats how other people were going to rise and challenge him as the frontrunner and exactly what Kamala Harris did. She took the stage and the reach we have seen her jump ahead in the polls. I think what you are seeing there he is trying to strike the right tone. He doesnt want to be too aggressive in trying to take her out and he says he is not going to play that game. Maybe he can have his surrogates, his aids, you know, plant stories and go after her in that fashion. But i think he wants to remain as if he is above the fray. That he is the frontrunner. Lawrence john, he wants to remain above the fray until he accuses the president of being racist. He pretty much said it right there. Is this his strategy everybody supports trump is just racist . John you are playing trumps game. Trump became president because he was out there throwing hay makers. You know i think they think thats how they are going to beat him. I dont think thats how you beat him. You are just playing his ballgame when you step into that and he loves that now biden is having hay makers thrown at him. You wouldnt have seen that in the past couple of elections. Nobody talked like that. Smacking somebody in the mouth or anything like that. You know, it looks like to me biden i said this earlier he has been left as in he cant go i dont think its in his nature to go that left. But he is kind of out of his comfort zone because is he having to go that left to be able to have the same conversation everybody else is having. Anna i think in that view he sort of said im not as far left as everybody else is i have been in washington. I know how to get things done. Im going to marinate where i am right now. He is sitting there in his lane. There is no way he can run as an outsider. How long has he been in washington. If he runs on saying i have got this place figured out. I can get things done. Im the one thats looking forward to the general election to beat donald trump rather than dealing with all of this, then maybe he is struck a cord. Lawrence he addresses. So politics. 80 of your party center left. I am center left disconnect. Look its center left. Thats where i am. Where its not is way left. By the way, i think ocasiocortez is a brilliant, bright woman, but she won a primary. In the general election fights, who won . Mainstream democrats who are very progressive on social issues and very strong on education, healthcare. Look, my north star is the middle class when the middle class does well, everybody does well. Lawrence tammy, if thats the case why is he flipflopping on everything . I think what people are missing is that his reaction in and of itself to what ms. Harris did reminds you that there has never been a real competitive primary for either party. First one was with trump and now this one. Is that he didnt expect to be held accountable. He didnt expect someone else in that lineup to Say Something harsh or to maybe tell the truth or what they saw as the truth. Because, gosh, they know each other. This reveals to everyone the fact that this had been kind of a sham from the beginning which is what all americans in both parties have rejected and havent liked. This idea that this is prearranged. That he is the one that is supposed to get it. He has that kind of demeanor. Now, i agree, the democratic voter is not the democrat or the liberal on twitter. It is someone who is much more quiet and who is watching. But then if that is the case, then he should have no problem. But what he knows is that Kamala Harris is going to cast herself as that. So, he knows he is not running against sandy ocasiocortez. He is running against Kamala Harris who is going to shift. No one is going to be running in the general as on the left but they have got to pander in a certain way. Joe biden and ultimately what people dont like and i dont think he understands the irony of complaining about trump being the divider and then trying to disembattle him with he is a racist. I punched these guys in the mouth. Nobody wants that and especially when its not natural. When its when you are trying to a play a role in certain way. Juan i dont think its unnatural given some of the statements trump has made on race. The bigger point right now is we have another debate in three weeks. You are going to have a higher bar and its going to be tough again for joe biden because he looked bad coming out of that debate and other people made up ground. So, people are going to be looking to punch again at joe biden. He better figure out how to deal with this. My sense is though that joe biden claim at this moment, tammy, is that he the most electable democrat running against donald trump. Even on the ropes. Juan even at this moment. He is in the lead. I think its Elizabeth Warren, im sorry, Bernie Sanders within five points. Tammy still, thats misleading because, of course, this is going state by state. You are looking at most of this is Like National approval. Its going to show very differently as they go into each state for the primaries. And then it is the debates is still going to matter. This attitude. I dont feel about kamalas reversal on the busing issue back and forth. Juan pressure on the left. All of you guys saying on the panel today. To my mind, the only way we have made progress on civil rights in this country is by dealing with people who have racist views, trying to work something out and make steady progress that has taken us to what i think is the best point in the American History for people of color. So,. Lawrence i think its pretty shady that she made a central issue and reversed on it for the American People. Juan what do you mean me reversed on it. Lawrence she went back and forth. Anna Campaign Ready to go. Juan now on busing in terms of saying that we should have incentives to promote school integration. Lawrence its the same position. We have got to go. Coming up, Colin Kaepernick breaking his silence for the First Time Since pressuring nike to pull the patriotic sneakers from the shelves. More on the five next. Limu emu doug what do all these people have in common, limu . [ paper rustling ] exactly, nothing. Theyre completely different people, thats why they need customized Car Insurance from liberty mutual. Theyll only pay for what they need [ gargling ] [ coins hi