So democrats and the Mainstream Media have tried to frame the contest as a bellwether for a potential blue wave in the 2018 mid terms. Is that accurate . Right now the election is simply too close to call. And joining us now with reaction from miami is former governor of the great state of pennsylvania, ed rendle who is probably very happy right now. Is he a democrat. In new york Monica Crowley senior fellow at the London Center for policy research. Governor rendell have to go to you. If conor lamb in his early 30s, former military man, you know, kind of a moderate democrat, he pulls out a victory, what does it say to you . Well, first of all, it is indicative of whats going on across the nation. This is our 19th special election. And every one of them the democrats have picked up a substantial percentage of the vote from where they were in 16. Thats a good sign for the democrats. But understand, the 18th is good trump country. The president has a 51 favorable rating according to the monmouth poll in the district. Its solid trump country. Lamb turned out to be a terrific candidate. He did a good job of not letting the republicans nationalize the race. He is a moderate. He is prolife. Is he moderate on guns. He is very intelligent candidate. He did a good job with the steelworks and the coal miners. Got their endorsement. If he wins, and its still close, i have it at 700 votes with 36 precincts left to be cast. If he wins it, will be a credit to him. Laura thats for sure. I would take issue with this idea is he prolife. The National Review this week put that to rest because is he not really prolife. He says well personally. Is he more prolife than most democrats. Laura you are right. Thats right governor rendell, is he not a nancy pelosi democrat. So, monica, what does this say to the Democrat Party though if this is the type of democrat who can win in a district where trump won, what does that say to the pelosi, schumer wing of the party . They are moving left and conor lamb seemed to move to the right. Thats exactly right, laura. The Current Democratic Party is Barack ObamasDemocratic Party. Its no longer bill clintons Democratic Party, a party pragmatists and centrist. It is a far left radical party. Conor lamb broke the mold from that because he was running in a district that donald trump won by 20 points. Very conservative district. So this is a young marine veteran who as the governor said had a series of very conservative positions on guns and other issues that he embraced in order to try to win this race. The lesson Going Forward then for the Democratic Party is if you want to try to get back to an appeal to the working class voters, that helps put donald trump over the top, particularly, laura, in those ten key swing states like pennsylvania, ohio, michigan, wisconsin, then you Better Change your tune and get back to the democratic principles of the party of old, which is more pragmatist, centrist, and moderate and reject the pelosi and barack obama far left kind of radical approach. Laura governor rendell, i said this for some time and others have as well, thats where the democrats sweet spot always was, the party of the little guy. And somehow the democrats became the party of like the teachers unions, of the trial lawyers, of the planned parenthood, and i think they missed just like the republicans did in a different way, they missed the heart of america. And the heart of america runs right through pennsylvania. Right through pennsylvania. No question you are right. The core values of the Democratic Party going back 50 years are values most americans agree with we have gotten away interest them. We play identity politics. It isnt good. I tell my progressive friends. I said conor lamb will cast a very important vote and the vote that you should care most about. And thats for the next speaker of the house. Whether its nancy pelosi or somebody else. If its a democrat, we can bring legislation to the floor that we cant get to the floor now. Thats the single most important thing. And if we want to be a party that really controls, we have to understand that in our progressive wing has to understand it most of all. Laura you think of the alarmism over trumps terrorists, for instance, and both saccone and lamb gave fairly decent support for the idea of tariffs. Its not as broad based as trump. Then you think of the cater walling we heard from both the establishment democrat some of them and establishment republicans, more so the republicans, it just shows you this is why trump won in pennsylvania because he is for bringing back manufacturing that both democrats and republicans, obama and hillary and republicans had said were never going to get those jobs back. That was an insult to the voters of pennsylvania, ohio, wisconsin, iowa, and beyond. And so if im a democrat watching this tonight, i dont care if you are living in california or living in wisconsin or ohio, conor lamb, if he pulls out this narrow victory, they have got to look at this and say, wait a second, we better examine where we are in a whole host of issues. I know the country is different different places. That was trumps recipe for success and it can be the democrats recipe for success. Remember, laura, donald trump circumstantial created a necreate essentially a new winning coalition. Donald trump turned everything upside down. He essentially was the first post ideological president. So he takes positions that are not traditionally republican, even though he won was a republican president. That kind of cross current appeal to the working class voters, voters on all sides that have felt ignored buyer the elites in the republican establishment, the democratic establishment, they felt for a long time that their wages were not increasing. They couldnt get decent jobs. They were in the industrial rust belt, particularly in the midwest states like pennsylvania, and donald trump gave them a voice. He spoke to them. And you know what . Because he is post ideological, he is solutions oriented. He is not ideologically based. Is he solutions oriented. If you are a democrat and if your candidate pulls this out in this district, the lesson is to reject the far left approach that whats begun by obama and perpetuated by nancy pelosi and other radicals controlling the Democratic Party, their eyes should be open tonight and they should see even if they lose this is a very close race, they should see that the past two electoral success does not go through far left radicalism. Laura governor rendell i have got about 15 seconds. Lets say saccone had ran as establishment republican not in favor of tariffs, where do you think this race would have been tonight . Again we dont know where it is going to turn out. Dont you think conor lamb would have been ahead 10 points. At least three or four. Listen, tariffs, i testified about imposing a tariff when i was governor because china was dumping steel into the u. S. To try to drive out our steel industry. The thing that donald trump did wrong, laura, is he did it too broad based. You should do it against transgressors. People doing it into the u. S. Laura he got a lot of leverage against the eu. We will see where that leads. Wee will see. Laura we will keep you guys hanging around. We will keep everyone up to date minute by minute this race is changing. Straight ahead my angle on President Trump shaking up his team plus senator bob corker is going to weigh in for a cant miss interview. Stay with us. Feel the clarity of nondrowsy claritin and relief from symptoms caused by over 200 allergens. Like those from buddy. Because stuffed animals are clearly no substitute for real ones. Feel the clarity and live claritin clear. We know that when youre spending time with the grandkids every minute counts. And you dont have time for a cracked windshield. Thats why we show you exactly when well be there. Saving you time, so you can keep saving the world. Kids safelite repair, safelite replace its 6 am. 40 million americans are waking up to a gillette shave. 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It quickly neutralizes stomach acid and helps keep acid down for hours. Relieve heartburn with fast acting, longlasting gaviscon. Laura welcome back. We continue to monitor the special election in pennsylvanias 18th district. There could be an automatic recount kicking in if the margin is at. 5 percentage. We will be checking that and bring you the up to date vote counts as we get them. But, first, trump gets his team and the media goes berserk. Thats the focus of tonights angle. Now, if you have been following american politics over the last nine months or so and you have a decently functioning human brain, you should not have been surprised to wake up to the news that Rex Tillerson is out at the state department. Rex and i have been talking about this for a long time. We got a long actually quite well. But we disagreed on things. When you look at the iran deal, i think its terrible. I guess he thought it was okay. I wanted to either break it or do something and he felt a little bit differently. So we were not really thinking the same. Laura tillerson, who was told he was being let go on friday by general kelly, spoke briefly to reporters today. And he didnt look well. He was visibly emotional. I want to speak now to my state Department Colleagues and to our interagency colleagues and partners at dod and the joint chief of staffs most particularly. To my Foreign Service officers and Civil Service colleagues, we all took the same oath of office whether you are career employee or political appointee, we are all bound by that common commitment. Laura that was nice. Well, back in november, i asked the president about the secretary of states job security. I want my my vision is my vision anyway. Its called costsaving. There is nothing wrong with costsaving. Rex is in there working hard. He is doing his best. Laura is he going to be with you for the duration . Well see. I dont know who is going to be. Laura well, not exactly a ringing endorsement of the duration. Well, the of course, the lemmings in the press spent the entire day painting the tillerson firing as evidence of more white house dysfunction. This almost feels like a vacation from the reality tv style turmoil that is turning back in washington. The president may be wondering why he didnt come to california sooner. This is his first trip out here because of everything that he has left behind. What does chaos mean in our Foreign Policy . It means many of our allies who i have worked for over the years, they dont know what to expect next from the United States. That creates a vacuum in the world that russia is moving into very quickly and china is moving in to in asia. Laura oh, yeah. Trump caused the rise of china and the russia aggression in crimea. Oh my goodness. Chaos. You mean what we saw for the eight years of the Obama Administration when barack obama didnt fire anyone over benghazi, the irs targeting of conservatives, or the fast and Furious Scandal . Or was it the chaos we saw when obama pushed out qaddafi and mubarak sparking the rise of isis in iraq and in syria . Now, what about the chaos of doubling our debt and exploding the trade deficit. Is china,. , grew bolder and more powerful, did any of that count as chaos . Well, trump, by contrast, has been very clear that we want to have better relationships with more nations, if possible. And were not going to be anyones pushover. Look, the fact is tillerson should have tendered his resignation a long time ago. He disagreed with the president on major issues. He was opposed to the talks with the north korea. He supported the paris climate accords. He questioned the president s charlesville response. He was at odds at moving the u. S. Embassy to jerusalem and was a fan of the iran nuclear deal. The president , of course, walls not a fan. Other than that, the two were perfectly i insync. Can you address the main headline of this story did you call the president a moron and where do you think the reports. Im not going to deal with petty stuff like that. This is what i dont understand about washington. Again, im not from this place but the places i come from, we dont deal with that kind of petty nonsense. Laura the place i come from as if you call your boss a moron, you probably should be in that position. The only question i have is why did it take the president so long to fire tillerson . Sure, he is a nice guy but come on. Cia director mike pompeo by all accounts is a far better fit to be trumps secretary of state. As the president said, kind of about chemistry and approach. Tillerson didnt gel in either category. I have gotten to know a lot of people very well over the last year, and im really at a point where we are getting very close to having the cabinet and other things that i want. Laura and since last summer, the president has been slowly getting his team together. Think about it he hired general john kelly his chief of staff. He moved Sarah Sanders in as press secretary. He moved tom price out and alex azar in as secretary of hhs and im sure there is going to be a lot more changes to come. Thats not chaos. Thats called smart staffing. He has been in the white house just over, what, 13 months or so . And now trump knows what he needs in his closest staff and the cabinet, too. And he might not do everything the button down traditional way, well, thats for sure. But he is hitting his stride and he is getting a really strong team in place. Think about it this way, when a player isnt performing on the field or on the court, a good coach benches him. And when that same player is a consistent drag on the team, well, a good coach is going to trade him or just let him go entirely. And thats precisely what trump did. And he should do the same with anyone else who seems pained to support his agenda. Once he makes his decision final. And thats the angle. For reaction i talked to republican senator bob corker of tennessee just a short time ago. Senator corker, good to see you. Thanks for first time on the ingraham angle. A little late. Laura i know we kept you up. Big news day, did this really surprise you, Rex Tillerson out by the president . Did you ever think he was a great fit . I thought he was really good at giving sound advice. I have known for some time i talk to both of them often. I know it hasnt been a perfect fit. Was i surprised . Not really. But, i will say since december 1st, right around that time, you felt a reprieve. You felt like that they were working better together. Laura the story today was this is chaos. People are freaking out in the media. Just more chaos. And it turns out that the president is apparently considering also firing the v. A. Secretary after the story broke that he was on some sightseeing trip i guess in europe on official business. Shulkin might be out replaced by rick perry. Thoughts on that . I think rick will be good at anything he does. He has been a good governor, obviously. Look, this is as i was telling you earlier, the reporters in the hallway have almost become this is just sort of normal and changes are occurring. And, you know, the president needs someone as secretary of state that he has a lot of faith in. And, again, i thought rex did a very good job. He has a great relationship with mattis, which is very unusual. And the two of them always go in on the same page. And i dont know pompeo very well. But i do hear very good things about him and look forward. Hes going to be in the office later this week. I look forward to a good confirmation. Laura the thought is the internationalists, the interventionists in the Republican Party are kind of on the down slide and the more nationalists populist wing is on the ascendancy because, of course, pompeo is more in line with trump. Tillerson is more, i think more in line with your thinking and what are your thoughts on that . Is it better to have that tension where the internationalists are kind of vying for the president s ear . I would use the world realist. Laura okay, fine. You will use your terminology i will use mine. The president s speech which we clawed. I was one of the first to laud one of his Foreign Policy speech had the makings of a jim baker realist world. I dont necessarily look at him as a nationalist. I mean, he is in afghanistan doing what he is doing and committed to not something that is divine by time and so he is a mix. He is more of a realist. I do think its good to have countering voices. Laura and the president does as well. He actually likes hearing the debate. He talked about that a great deal in the gary cohn when he left. So, look, i think that as long as whoever is working with him, regardless of what their point of view is, is giving him the full collage of opportunities to think about things, then i think thats fine. Laura tillerson couldnt answer the question did he call him a moron. Thats not going to work well. Remember, barack obama fired only a few people. Mcchrystal, fired mattis. Remember when he fired mattis he didnt each tell him. Mattis learned about it, i guess second hand or third hand. People switch up positions when the chemistry isnt right. The president called this morning on his way out west about 10 00 from air force one. Every one of these people serve at his pleasure. Its his decision. New cia chief would be gina haspel who will be with the cia 30 years.