Heres what he said a short time ago, after the memos were made public. Im sure the special counsel is considering my recollection of those events. Which were reflected in those memos. It is my recollection that its the evidence that will be used. These would be to show that i wrote it down at the time, sort of the bolster to credibility my recollection. Laura must been lets brinn congressman chris stewart, a member of the house intel committee. Give us your take. You know what it shows me, director comey was dishonest with the president from the very beginning and continues to be. He should have gone in and instead, mr. President , we have this piece of political garbage that was funded by the dnc, Hillary Clinton, pay no attention to it. If anyone brings it up, well refute it and say its not credible. He said later on it was salacious and unverified. Instead, what he said to the president is, the russians are reporting, as if this was a credible russian intelligence operation, he knew that it wasnt. He knew that this was not some formal document the russian intelligence had created and put together. It was put together by Hillary Clinton, the dnc. He used a foreign agent, by the way, who used second and third hand information from unidentified russians. We he should have been honest wh the president. By the way, hes being dishonest with the president continually. He says he thinks its possible the president is under some type of shadow, that the russians have a laura he kind of walked a back brace because he should have walked it back. Laura that was outrageous. They could have information on you, me, director comey. That is the direction he has taken, he is trying to cast as deep a shadow as he possibly could over this. Laura memos to the file are invariably selfserving documents. I remember when i was a white collar criminal defense attorney, you always look at those, lets go over what really happened. You want to write a memo to the file that makes you look like a fool or a liar or makes you look like you are misrepresenting the facts. You will write a memo to the file that memorializes events that will make you look in the best flights. There was an interesting part of this one of these memos, not very long. You have the unredacted redacted version. This is what he says in one of the memos. He said i had dinner with President Trump in the green room at the white house at 6 30 p. M. I explained that he could always count on me to tell the truth. He said i dont do sneaky things. I dont leak. I dont do weasel moves. What was that leaking them out much of a columbia professor to release it to the media . Was that leaking or tiddlywinks . Its not the way in fbi director should respond or should act. To be honest about it, laura, the testimony the director has provided before the committees and closed sessions does not comport at all with some of the things he is saying publicly right now. Laura you can discuss this because it a closed session . Is it already out there . We hope it will be. It should be. This is another good example of information i should have been released to the first time we asked. Why in the world does department of justice feel like it is their responsibility to protect this person rather than their responsibility to be open and honest with the American People. Laura another part of this memo where President Trump, rightly, as he did in the campaign, calls into question Andrew Mccabe. At that point, he says, about this point, he asked me again about your guy, mccabe, it does sound like trump. Whether he was going to be okay. I again affirmed his ability and professionalism and said the president would come to see him and benefit from both. At that point, he already knew that Andrew Mccabe probably had some problems, yet he was telling the president that mccabe was fine. That brings me to another question. How is it that the director of the fbi had surrounded himself with what we know now our political hacks . Andrew mccabe, lisa page, others. The fbi is not full of progressives. Its not full of liberal activists. Yet, they are around the director and it seems like he had selected an advanced and promoted people that had a different view than many americans. Laura will you bring comey back up . We sure hope so. Laura how will you make it happen . We will request him to speak before the committee, i expect he will decline. I cant imagine laura maybe you should hang in a green room. I think you should go to msnbc, i think he has a binky and a sleeping bag. Hes been pretty effective at selling his book, no doubt about it. This is not about his book. This is about learning the truth and having him be accountable for the things he said. Again, i dont expect he will be banging on our door but if he doesnt, laura why wont he . Is a very smart guy. He went to a chicago law school, incredible career in government. Hes a smart guy. If he cant withstand questioning from you, congressman, some of these other guys, he goes on with all these tough guy journalists. Stay right there. We have more. Join tonight by former fbi special agent ted former Whitewater Deputy independent counsels all wise and bargained in the studio with me in d. C. , democratic strategist in Washington Attorney scott bolden. Scott, you have experienced both on the defense and prosecution side, most of the file. If youre not a practicing attorney, people think, that is nice, it is like dear diary, but talk about, and your own practice, when you look at my most of the file, honestly, politics out of it for a moment. People who write to my most of the file, go. It is fundamental go to the litigation whether you are in the government or whitecollar. To me, my memos to the file are factual. They are facts that you want to make memorable. I dont know whether they are selfserving but i will tell you this. We highlight points that are takeaways from those meetings. The fbi, these were pretty standard notes, if you will. You could read and do whatever you want to read into them. In the end, it is all about the facts. If you want to put in the various overlay to it, then thats not going to be helpful, may be politically but in a prosecutor laura nefarious, he would get his point of you out by going through a columbia professor friend that would then siphon the information out to journalists. That calls into question his motive. He laura what was he worried about . He was worried about his reputation. Laura thank you. Is that what the fbi director is supposed to be doing . The regulations applicable to this case and the law, section 641, should have fired him day one. It demonstrates clearly, you cannot traffic documents, you cannot reveal documents, you cannot sell documents or trade them. He was trading these documents for his own reputation, was he not . On Government Computers . He was trying to protect the United States of america. He did not break the law and doing it otherwise he would be prosecuted. Laura by this fbi . Oh, yeah. Lets go to saul. The underlying crime here, now that we see these memos, we see what he wrote in the sedan in the way off from the white house and so forth. What is the underlying crime . Whose underlying crime . The president . Laura [laughs] good question, saul. Take it away. There is no underlying crime for the president reflected in these notes at all. Certainly, nothing approaching obstruction of justice. As is so often the case with President Trump, there is not an understanding of norms, norms that have evolved and how you deal with the fbi, how you interact with somebody like the fbi director. There is nothing close to and obstruction of justice. I share the concern of the congressman, i dont think i would put it in the stark terms he did. If director comey new at the time of this initial meeting where he was alone with the president and briefed him on the salacious russia allegations, if you knew by that point in time, which i believe he did who paid for these, that it was the dnc in mrs. Clintons campaign, i think it is extremely disappointing he did not reveal much of the president. I think he definitely should have done so. Laura thats a material fact that goes to the motivation, the credibility of the underlying allegation in the dossier. Lets go to bobby. Audrey jeffers show, we had comey, he was referencing whether he thought the information that he transmitted to his pal was classified or not. Lets watch. Senator grassley, chairman of the jerry committee, says there are seven memos. Four of them are classified. Is that right . I dont know. I dont have the memos. I dont know how many they are. When i created some of them, they were classified. I dont know how many. Laura okay. Bobby, i got to have you, take this away. I cant understand how many times laura how does he not know . I dont know. How could he not have them . He has copies. He provided copies to the who is friends in columbia. He probably has them in his briefcase. How can he not have these memos . How many times can we expect the answer that i dont know, i dont remember, when hes cornered. It is unfathomable that he doesnt know what is in those memos. Four of them are classified. Hes got copies, probably has them right there with him. One thing that strikes me, the fbi, for the fbi director on january 6, 4 weeks before the inauguration, going immediately and creating these memos, which he already told us that he never had to do under president obama, and it really sets up his mindset was that President Trump was an adversary for the beginning before they had a relationship. He is treating the president as his adversary. And its clear from his creating days memos. Laura bobby, he said the first meeting, when he wanted to trump tower, he felt a lot of trepidation going into that meeting. He was afraid. Why was he afraid . Did he get queasy . Was he mildly nauseous . Laura nauseated. I think its nauseated not nauseous. Otherwise he would be creating nausea and others. Im a grammatical not to. I will go to scott. What would happen to a regular rankandfile fbi agent if he, an answer to a committee, a congressman, said, some of them are classified, i dont know. What would happen to that . Whose career would effectively be over. If he wasnt booted out of the fbi, his career as an investigator would be over. When you show a lack of credibility, you cant be a witness anymore, the bread and butter in the fbi is to be a witness. Ive seen agents suspended for a significant amount of time without pay, not for leaking, but for taking information from save the fbi agents on the ground in iraq and trying to transmitted to the counterparts here because maybe its a new way of creating an ied that they are fighting over there and we want to transmit that to our brom Tech Partners on the l. A. P. D. And when that information is passed without being declassified, they want to fire you laura even though the intent was not there to compromise security. Scott . Look at the first note. You have it right there. The first note says that mr. Comey writes himself, he doesnt know how to classify these. These are his notes. He says, the default is secret. Right there. Now what is so wrong with that . Laura he didnt say that to jake tapper. He said he didnt know what was classified. He cant remember what its classified or not . He didnt know how to classify them when he sent them to mccabe and others. What is so wrong with that . Laura it doesnt matter. You cannot send government material to a third party under fbi regulations. It was not government material. Laura wait a second, scott. Hes creating a memo to the fbi file on his meeting not later, he went into the sedan, he said at one point, 5 minutes, it was 5 minutes, on the government commuter. I will argue that case against you in court every day. It was done in response to bad conduct of donald trump. Laura it was done on government time. Government time on Government Property. Saul . Saul . Saul . Yeah . Laura what is your response . If you are in the independent counsels office, deputy independent counsel, youre writing a file on a government computer after meeting with a government official, you said not to a buddy out of law school and say do what you want with it, is that Government Property . Two things. They are clearly not his personal notes. As you say, they are on a government computer, he is writing them to people who are professionals with him in the fbi. Whether it is classified or unclassified, its Government Property and he doesnt have the right to send them out anywhere without getting permission from the proper authority. By the way, deputy ag rosenstein, when he was in front of congress two or three months ago, we at that point. He was specifically asked that question, and he came up with the same answer that you did in that i did. They just simply arent his personal notes. Laura we all move off of that for a second. Congressman stewart, the last memo, the president is clear, if he is not a target, he wants people to know that, he wants to be the president of the United States without the anvil of the end investigation on his back. What is wrong with that . What is wrong with him saying that . Is not a political expert at that point. He just got into office 5 minutes ago. So he saying that they are making it to be such a big deal, trying to manipulate the investigation, no. Comey was already indicating he wasnt a target. That is right. Plus he indicates in these memos that if there is something that is taking place, he wants to know. I want to go back, first, dont leak especially if you dont know if they are classified, like he admits. Laura thats a great point. The second point, im a former air force pilot, right out of classified information all the time, all we are asking is that director comey and Hillary Clinton be treated as if i were treated if i were responsible for leaking or disseminating information that was classified. The last thing, director comey did not reveal to the president that this was paid for by the dnc and Hillary Clinton just like they did not reveal to the fisa court that it was paid for by Hillary Clinton and the dnc. That is a meaningful act that should have been revealed. These are disputed facts, though. The fact that the fbi director did not disclose something in his conversations with the president come up remember, the president and his campaign, since october of 2016, were undr investigation, at least in connection to the number of contacts between those Campaign Members and russian operatives. The testimony told you that before congress under oath. So i dont think you know or he knew what the president at that juncture was a target, subject, or a witness. Laura i understand. He told him he wasnt. Laura he told him he wasnt a target and though s. Talking about the first meeting. At that juncture. The target, subject, witness, those labels can go a lot of different places and then back. Laura one thing, as people, it is hard to take politics out of this because we are all living in washington, very heated. If we were under a cloud of suspicion, and the information that was being used to perhaps taint us or taras was developed by a mortal enemy, political or otherwise, business, i think all of us as human beings would want to know that. Okay, wait a second. Now it makes sense why these are inflammatory accusations are in there. As people, we would all want to know that. Whether that affects the legal case, i dont know. I think the fact he did not reveal that, being as smart as he is, hes a smart guy, to me, is very odd. He can remember the shrimp scampi and the appetizer. I dont remember what i ate yesterday. He in the president talk about the unreliability of that report. There was no need to go deeper than that. To be honest with you, donald trump talks a lot more in these memos than james comey does. Theres nothing offensive or nefarious about it. Stick to the facts. These memos are all about laura why did he want to leak them if they are embarrassing . To protect his reputation and the United States of america. Laura the United States of america . Okay. His job is to protect the citizens. Laura your admitting he thought donald trump was an adversary . He let him go and he wanted a special prosecutor to ensure the integrity of this investigation. We talk about protecting the United States of america, my heavens, the way you do that is you be honest with the american citizens. The Justice Department and fbi have instructed at every turn, as weve requested, how many times have we had has donald trump and honest with the American People . Laura hes been more transparent on what is going on with this investigation lies documented laura no collusion. Guys, we are out of time. We could do this for a whole hour. I love this. There is so much more in the s to get to. Well bring in Victor Davis Hanson and Ari Fleischer when we come back. Fascinating moments from jim comeys neverending book tour. It is like shares fell we had long deployments in iraq. Im really grateful that usaa was able to take care of my family while i was overseas serving. It was my very first car accident. We were hit from behind. I called usaa and the first thing they asked was are you ok . they always thank you for your service, which is nice because as a spouse you serve too. Were the hayles and were usaa members for life. See how much you could save with usaa by bundling your auto and home insurance. Get a quote today. Laura i love redacted things, the big black, dont you love that . Dont you want to know whats behind the black . Something really boring but it makes it look really official. Welcome back to the ingraham angle. We are continuing to cover the release of those comey memos. Why arent powerful trump bashers like jim comey being held to the same standards that Robert Mueller is applying to the president and his associates . For some answers, we go to Victor Davis Hanson, senior fellow at and Ari Fleischer. Gentlemen, good to see all of you. Let start with you, ari, your take away i