Laura Ingraham shines a spotlight on everyday Americans and examines how their lives are affected by politics at the federal, state and local level. Organization and two Senior Company officials related to the payments to stormy daniels. Thats important because President Trump has no power tos pardon individuals convicted of state crimes. Joining me now to make sense of all this, chris hahn, radioow talk show host and former aide to senator chuck schumer. Matt schlapp, chairman of the american conservative union, and david bossie, former Deputy Chairman of the trump campaign. Thank you for joining us. Ig david, i want to start with you. The Attorney General went out of his way to say he was never influenced by any political consideration but i think, correct me if im wrong, one of the first things he did was make a political consideration to recuse himself on a case that he really did need to do it because of political considerations. Correct . O thats exactly right, jason. That bad decision by the Attorney General to recuse himself has borne out this incredible witch hunt that the president has had to live
the talking points, who were interested in the felonies mightve happened in new york, not to mention the Trump Organization and the trump foundation. Fo we would have investigations in congress. Congress is hapless right now. When you were chair of that committee, you investigated. I think you would beld investigating right now. Jason you know what. You know why congress is hapless . Because this Attorney General does nothing to provideis documents that congress has issued subpoenas to. Matt, come on in here and give us your perspective. E this Attorney General is thereis in name only. I think hes one of the most feckless, ineffective Attorney Generals this country has ever had. Whats your read . Jason, i understand wherere youre coming from. I am a big fan of Jeff Sessions but i feel like for the last year and a half, its been one of the most painful things to watch. The saddest thing is the president has amazing fortitude in pushing through his agenda, but theres two decisions that Jeff Sessions made that have really caused all of this drama over the course of the last year and a half. Was collusion with putins government. O we are talking about the Lifestyles Of The Rich And Famous and we are talking about squashing bad stories that can harm a reputation. It has nothing to do with collusion. It has nothing to do with russia. The American People are repulsed by all of this. Hi jason david, david. Timeout. Gentlemen. Gentlemen. David, are you concerned that immunity is given to a member of the media . C people will scoff at the National Enquirer and say its the National Enquirer. You dont hear very often thate the Department Of Justice grants immunity to a news organization. There are certain times, when you go and talk to your attorney, you get attorneyclient privilege. When you talk to your doctor, you expect those Medical Records Wont Be when you talk to a member of the media off the record, there is some sanctity there, is there not . There absolutely should be. We dont know. Its all hypothetical what David Pecker May or may not know and why he got the immunity deal. Usually Law Enforcement gets
something in return for that immunity deal. If you look at cheryl mills and samuelson. Hillary clintons lawyers. You remember this very well, that they got immunity in their deals and gave nothing in return. Jason five got immunity. The closest to Hillary Clinton and they got nothing out of it. Chris, you get the last word. Well, well, i think we all want to know what is in david peckers safe. It could be interesting to the American People. Its like geraldo. I Wish Congress was half aggressive as figuring this out as you were when you were there. Jason gentlemen, thank you. An i appreciate the spirit of the debate. Chris, i want you to stick around. I want Everybody Else on this broadcast to stick around, because this will shock you. A Bombshell Report put out by real clear investigations that says despite what james comey said, the fbi failed to look at the vast majority of the emailsi on Anthony Weiners laptop,
which had thousands of Hillary Clintons state Department Emails on it. Joining me now to explain further is the author of that report, Investigative Journalist for realclearinvestigations. Com, paul sperry. F thanks for being here. Im fascinated in this. Actually, the letter that went to congress explaining this was a letter that came to me when i was the chairman of the oversight committee. Tell me what you found out now about the reality. Thats right. Te james Comey Told Congress that they had reviewed all of the clinton emails, hundreds of thousands, that were found on the weiner laptop. That was not true. They barely looked at any event. 3,000 of 700,000 were individually jason wait, wait, wait. How many . 3,000 out of potentially relevant 700,000 emails were actually individually examined for Classified Information and incriminating evidence. Jason i mean, it did shock us, right . It was days. They told us they were looking into it and then days later they somehow reviewed 700,000 i documents . How many people, do you have any idea how many people working on this case looking at these documents . I was going to mention that peter strzok, the disgraced agent who was in charge of the investigation into the clinton emails, he personally handpicked the 3,000 sample. With two other investigators, they went through the mallllhe supposedly and pulled an allnighter, ordered pizza, and said nothing new here. Case closed once again. Jason ive got to tell you, as the former chairman of the committee, as a former member of congress, i mean, how can that be anything other than the director of the fbi Lying To Congress and misleading us . He also swore under oath, and he had this story that he hadir this miraculous breakthrough in
technology that fbi to process the weiner laptop for evidence rapidly. Turns out that doesnt pass the smell test. That didnt check out either. There was a Technical Glitch that thwarted the effort. I was going to mention that, jason, when you were on oversight, youre probably wondering the same thing. How in the world can they get through this mountain of evidence in days, after comey gave you the final all clear on hillary . Jason now that you have unveiled or figured out whats going on with this information, where does this case go next . Is anybody investigating this . Michael horowitz, the Inspector General for the Department Of Justice, i wonder if hes looking at it. And you have Attorney General sessions just today said he only operates without any political influence. Is the Attorney General himself looking at this, in Lying To Congress . This evidence that is, reall
has been covered up on this laptop, this weiner laptop, it is still relevant. In the Clinton Foundation probe especially, which is still ongoing, and you know, the whole thing raises more suspicion that the fbi politicized these investigations during the election. It just begs for an outside, independent prosecutor to go back through this evidence, through these emails, and see if the fbi was trying to cover up Material Evidence in this case. G jason i really appreciate your good investigative work. We were always scratching our heads in congress, the fact that you have unveiled this, it doesv demand i think the Inspector General, Attorney General himself, and potentially i would advocate Second Special prosecutor to look at this. It creates more legal jeopardy
for james comey and its a second revelation that not only did they use peter strzok to look at that information with his handpicked people and they ordered late night pizza, come on. The disgraced peter strzok at this point, makes absolutely no sense. Paul, i thank you for your good work and coming on this program to share this with us. My pleasure. Thank you. Jason the attorney for the illegal immigrant alleged to have murdered Mollie Tibbetts speaks out. You wont believe what he had to say. We will play the tape next. This wifi is fast. Oh boy. Wifi fast enough for the whole family is simple, easy, awesome. In many cultures, young men would stay with their families until their 40s. Jason Cristhian River JasonCristhian Rivera stands charge for the murder of 20yearold Iowa University student Mollie Tibbetts. Tt riveras attorneys had down with an interview with Martha Maccallum tonight where he didnt seem to care that his client is an illegal immigrant. The United States constitution provides if you are not a citizen, you still are entitled to the jurisdictions of the courts and entitled to equal protection under the law. I dont think anyone said he wasnt. What people are saying is he arrived here illegally from mexico 4 to 7 years ago. That is your rhetoric. It is not rhetoric. Thats what the Immigration Officials are saying their n
reports indicate. He used a false name to work for an employer. They thought he was somebody else. We know that as well. These are the facts that are being dug up in that case. Jason martha is exactly right. Joining me now with reactions are tom homan, a fox news contributor, and the former a acting director of i. C. E. And immigration attorney allen orr. Allen, is it a legitimate question or subject for us to discuss if somebody is here legally or illegally . It is if we are dealing with a matter of immigration. But i think what the family has said in this situation and also with the law bears out in the way the case is being handled,wi the fact that this person is undocumented is not an essential part of his actual criminal activity. Therefore jason allen, dont you believe if he was unable to get here, if he had come legally and lawfully, he may not ever comere here. The fact that he was here and is
illegal. Mollie would be alive if he werent in this country. Do you believe that or not . First of all, its an absolute tragedy and i offer my condolences to the family. The possibility of changing what actually happened, no one can do those circumstances. Im not going to play the game of what if. Jason its not a game. When people are here illegally and they commit a crime, ial really do believe that that crime wouldnt have been committed because they wouldnt have been here. Is that logical . Im a philosophy major. No, its not a logical answer. Jason it is not philosophy, it is logic. There are Endless Possibilities of things that couldve happened. Its not a logical answer. Jason she would have gone running and he would have been in mexico. In this specific occurrence. Jason a young woman goingg. To college, about to enter her junior year, is murdered. You are telling me thats not relevant . I am uncertain if youre asking me if the Immigration Status is relevant. It is not relevant. What is relevant is the individual and those individual actions, which have been discussed. E jason his actions of coming here illegally ultimately led to her being killed by thise person. That is the allegation. We will see if its true, buts thats the allegation. Tom, you have dedicated its a fallacy of causation. He was here for four years with no problem. Jason we dont know that yet. Hold on. I want to bring in tom. Tom spent a lifetime in Law Enforcement protecting us i and getting rid of some of the most nefarious criminals out there. Tom, what is your take on this . I think my friend allen is way wrong on this and you are f right. Fact he was in the country illegally. Fact if he wasnt here, this girl would be alive today. Its just a fact of the case. Its not a philosophy. This girl is dead today because he killed her and he was here illegally. If he hadnt been here, if we had a border wall and real border enforcement, maybe he wouldnt have been to be here. Stone cold fact. Jason let me play a little
clip of a candidate for the United States senate. The Person Running against ted cruz. Sorry. Okay, we dont have this clip. You have a lot of people saying hey, we should decriminalize this. Essentially open borders. We want to abolish i. C. E. Allen, where do you stand on t those issues . The abolish i. C. E. Movement as well as decriminalization of immigration are separate issues and i want to be very clear. C earlier saying his Immigration Status had nothing to do with the crime and what happened in that occurrence. What is not important jason im going to keep arguing. Allen, im not going to let you get away with that. Im going to keep arguing. If he didnt come here illegally, then he wouldnt have committed this crime. And you think thats a philosophy . I think its a fact. Its a fallacy of causation. You are saying that because he was illegal, he committed the crime. Not the case. Jason allen, if Somebody Breaks into your home and then
murders you, what do you think would happen if he didnt breake into your home . Right, so if these these equivocations, the strawman arguments, arent useful to the conversation. Jason its not a strawman. We have a dead woman. And its a tragedy for the family and theyve asked that her death not be a political issue based on this because jason its the number one issue facing voters. Tom, jump in. An individuals actions doess not represent the whole community of immigrants in this country. Jason i didnt say that. Im not going to let you get away with that. Theres difference between immigrants and Illegal Immigrants. Tom homan explained the difference. Immigrants are here legally. Illegal aliens are here illegally. Bottom line, the Comment Allen made about the family. Illegal immigration has been a political issue for decades. Ad its emotional. Fact about two hours ago, i got a text, actually an email from
don rosenberg in california. He talked about this case and talked about an l. A. Editorial where they talked about politicizing these deaths. Don rosenberg reminded me. He said tom, everyone of us, the angel families, we want the president to speak about this. Weve been speaking about this for a long time, but we never had the voice until President Trump got to be president. He created the voice. Victims of Immigration Crime at i. C. E. Here is an angel dead. Saying we want a voice. We want at the American People to understand the tragedy. Children killed by illegal aliens and we need to talk about it. Jason let me allen, ive got to show some video. There are those of us that believe in the wall and believe we should lock down the border. On the southern border, theres a video which hopefully will come up on the screen, of what was going on at a kfc. There was a tunnel going into this kfc which was providing a conduit. This is the kfc. Reminds me of breaking bad and how they are moving drugs through. Y
this is the tunnel moving through. Do you advocate for open border or do you think we need more resources, more funds, more resources to lockdown the border, particularly the southern border . I dont think anyone is arguing for open borders. The point, im glad we are talking about this story because thats exactly the issue. I. C. E. Should be focused on these types of issues rather than separating families and children at the border. Rather than showing up at courthouses. [all speaking] Border Patrol separating families, not i. C. E. I support the Border Patrol doing that, the numbers were down by 20 . Should have stuck with it another 30 days and the problem would be solved. Decriminalizing illegal immigration is going to result in more Illegal Immigrants coming to this country. Thats just a fact. Jason gentlemen, thank you. The reality is if you put up a wall, youre not going toolimim separate families because they are not going to get into the country in the first place. Well, i appreciate you being here. More leftwing outrage tonight, this time over a report the Trump Administration is considering using federal funds to help arm teachers in the classroom. We will debate it next. He giving a proper representation of what the secretary is trying to to do. Joining me now for debate is guns down executive directorat igor volsky