Reveal a Democrat Party outgrowing its tent. Plus, the biden familys latestt edition and what did chris cuomo and elon musk have in common . Raymond arroyo has more on that in friday follies. Ha first, after five days, a dozen witnesses and 30plus hours of testimony, the impeachment hearings ended up a total bust. Despite Public Opinion turning against them, the democrats are so far out on the ledge, that i think they feel as if they cant back away from moving forward. Now, theyre likely considering the following articles of impeachment. The first is the generic abuse of power. The focus remains on the president s stunning abuse of power that relates to his pressuring a Foreign Government to target a citizen for gain. Laura none of the witnesses that the democrats produced actually had direct evidence of anything approaching stunning let alone an abuse of power. President trump never told me directly that the aid was conditioned on the meetings. The president didnt come after the bidens or any investigations . No. Did you ever talk to President Trump in 2019 . Ig no, i have not. You were not on the call . I was not on the call. Laura second, democrats could charge bribery. My colleagues seem to think unless the president says the magic words that i bribed the ukrainians, that theres no evidence of bribery. That is soliciting a bribe. That is an Impeachable Offense. E the devastating testimony corroborated evidence of bribery. Laura theres no evidence oc bribery. Its patently absurd. Even congressman will hurd republican, who is retiring . T hes not a huge fan of the president . Rejected that argument in yesterdays hearing. An Impeachable Offense should be compelling, overwhelmingly clear and unambiguous. Its not something to be rushed or taken lightly. I have not heard evidence briefing the president committed bribery. Tl laura its laugh if it h wasnt so bad for the country. P the third potential article of impeachment, contempt of congress. Article 3 in the nixon impeachment articles, contempt of congress. Donald trump goes way beyond richard nixon. Laura its hyperbole. Were it in an olympic event, he would be draped in gold right now. Its contempt for congress, not contempt of congress at this point. S trumps been more forth coming to congress than obama. Of course, when he was under the spotlight, more press events made himself more available sent out more tweets. Ridiculous. Finally, democrats could try to charge trump. Em this perhaps is my favorite of the faux charges, obstruction of justice. They keep taking it to court. No, were not going to wait till the courts decide. We cant wait for that its a technique. Its obstruction of justice. T laura this, again, is perhaps the most pathetic charge of all. Its another sign that the democrats are just out of steam. A president invoking a timehonored privilege like executive privilege. His legal right is obstruction of congress . If so, then everybody out there you better buckle up because politics is just going to get uglier and uglier as time goes on. Devin nunes perhaps said it best. When the democrats cant get any traction for allegations of quid pro quo, they move the goal posts and accuse the president of extortion. Then bribery. At least resort, obstruction of justice. Laura none of this isuc working. Deep down schiff, pelosi, and their impeachment backup singers, they know it. But in one final desperate effort to win over a weary nation, the chairman of the oh so bored did his best to belt out a grand finale. They were silent when the president said that. T. No quid pro quo. What do you want no quid pro quo. We cant just get over it. Where is howard baker . Not using metaphors. I think we need to consult our conscious. I resisted going down this path a long time. Swere better than that. Laura i love the gavel atlo the end. Makes it really persuasive except it doesnt. Does that sound like a man that is confident that his hearing did the job . Really persuasive . Seem to you like it was a . Performer begging the audience for applause . Joining me now, robert ray former whitewater independent cancel and harmet dillon, Donald Trump Campaign advisory member. The white house is of the mind that the house might not even vote on impeachment. But i think theyre pretty far out there on that ledge to back away. Where do you see this going . I do, too, laura. I think theyre out on the ledge. The only exit ramp would be consider of a possible censure resolution. Thats one that has often been discussed in connection with impeachments throughout history. But generally speaking, there doesnt seem to be an appetite for that. Here the democrats are too far a out on a limb appealing to the interests of the progressive wing of the party. I think Speaker Pelosi has signalled that she has to go down this road for fear if she doesnt, she jeopardizes her speakership after the 2020 elections. Laura harmet, when you hear charge after charge, the goal posts shifting when they werent getting the Public Opinion polling that they wanted, they focused grouped it at one point in the dcc, Democratic Campaign committee, they were focus grouped determining what the proper article of impeachment should be. So is there any surprise that adam schiff is desperately trying to conjure up this emotion to close it out yesterday . Im not surprised. Theres no facts to support this effort. You think he would have learned from Jerry Nadlers belly flop in the mueller investigationseem and hearings that you have to be prepared and make sure witnessea can deliver. His witnesses went after writing checks, that did not deliver on the impeachment promise. So if im nancy pelosi tonight im feeling worried about my prospects because she has painted herself in a corner. She has to do something or she will lose her position and the party will lose at the polls. L its going to be a dud and dead on arrival in the senate. Laura robert, i want to go back to that issue of obstruction of justice. Again, theyre frantic in their efforts to tie this back to nixon. People think, oh, if its like nixon, it has to be bad and he will resign and well be happy. Oh, its obstruction of justice. He would invoke an executive privilege to not appear before the committee. How dangerous a precedent would that set moving forward, robert . Its horrible. This is an intrabranch dispute. Since when is filing a lawsuit ever be considered an act of obstruction of justice . That is a ridiculous notion. Thats an appeal to the to another branch of government, ao court, to make a determination as to whether or not a privilege applies. You can argue about whether or not its appropriate to file a lawsuit, but the contention that merely by filing a lawsuit that that is obstruction of justice is a ridiculous notion. T laura nancy pelosi made it clear that shes not going to court. Oh, we dont have time for that. If its such a critical issue s for the country to wrestle with, for congress to wrestle with, she would go to court because she would be confident she would win and want the legal precedent, would she not harmeet . The court system is part of our government and part of the due process system. So i think shes just whistling past the graveyard, laura. She knows she doesnt have the goods. They would kick her out. Theres not the evidence to support what theyre trying to do here. Laura, this is a political process. Thats how the founders made it. All of these democrats need to be thinking a couple steps ahead to what happens when the voters clearly bored, turned off or otherwise, you know, revolted at this prospect of these democrate spending their time on this and not on the peoples work. Who will be held accountable . Its not donald trump. Laura robert, republicans now say, the white house is saying to the counsels office and various reports that they want a senate trial. These proceedings have been anything but fair. The senate has an opportunity to fix that. Im confident they will. I look forward to them completing the job that we could have done here. E laura now apparently the president is saying i want at trial. But robert, is this something that the gop itself should want . I dont think so. Look, i think that the trial in the senate is mostly about a deliberation over whether or not the president should be removed from office. The evidence is already in. I could foresee Lindsey Graham through the Judiciary Committee subpoenaing hunter biden and getting deposition testimony. But recall the clinton impeachment. There wasnt live testimony before the United States senate. There were a limited number of depositions. The evidence was shared with the senators. Mostly an impeachment proceeding before the senate is a trial proceeding, a deliberation. The president would present a case in the sense that there would be statements as would the impeachment managers that would act on behalf of the house. But live testimony is not what i imagine that we would see before the United States senate. I think finally, after a couple of weeks of this since the republicans have control of the chamber, i would imagine a motion to dismiss would be properly filed and considered. We would end this in short circuit it without the president even having to put on a defense. Laura harmeet, talking about Lindsey Graham opening this probe, a probe into biden burisma. Hes demanding the state department turn over the communications among former Vice President biden, hunter biden and the ukraine. This is all in response to these allegations that biden pushed to fire that prosecutor general mr. Shokin just to end the investigation of the company that employed his son that paid him 80,000 a month. Heres how biden reacted to this. Im disappointed and quite frankly angered by the fact. He knows my son. He knows theres nothing to this. Trump is now essentially Holding Power over him that even ukrainians wouldnt yield to. Lindsay is about to go down a way that he will regret his life. What do you say to him . Im embarrassed by what youre doing. Laura harmeet, joe biden who talked about punching said hes embarrassed for Lindsey Graham. Lindsey graham will stand up to the president when he feels appropriate. You can see the soap opera playing out to know that theres something fishy about that guy getting 80,000 a month for anything. You know, biden is i dont think hes thinking clearly about how this looks from afar. That brings me back to the senate. These senators have a conflict of interest, a lot of the Democratic Senators will be grandstanding for the cameras and having nothing to do if this is laura hold on, harmeet. This is an important point. Isnt it true that the senatorsa cannot speak at the trial . They dont speak. They sit there like potted plants. In the trial. Not outside. E. Laura yeah, yeah. Its all going to be mugging for the cameras youre right. Laura but robert, during the proceeding they dont say anything. Largely this is a t deliberative proceeding to arrive at a verdict about whether or not to remove the president from office. Laura preposterous. The democrats dont have the vote. So what are we doing . Laura they think its good for them. Everybody should have their eyes on the best interests of the country. Laura great to see you tonight, robert and harmeet. And i mentioned, the public sentiment moving against the democrats. T this is what the real clear polling average looked like november 10. Thats the week that the hearings started. 51 started. 42 opposed. A ninepoint spread. This is the average. 48 support and 45 oppose. Closing the spread to three points. So the democrats explosive show actually seemed to turn people off. That probably is why nancy pelosi and cnn are holding a town hall. Should a news network be advancing the case of impeachment of a president . Shouldnt they give jim jordan his own town hall . Joining me right now from real clear politics, tom, can pelosi salvage impeachment by going on for an hour with chris cuomo or wolf blitzer . I doubt it. One thing that weve seen, you just mentioned the numbers have moved against the democrats here since impeachment proceedings started. Thats mostly among independents, right . Democrats are locked in theirr position 85 for it. Republicans are locked in their positions against it. Independents are moving against the democrats. Those are national polls. When you look at where we actually have state polling information, wisconsin marquette law school, its 40 approve or support of impeachment, 53 against. 13 points against in one of the key swing states in 2020. Laura i saw something where its 70 of people that voted for obama and then switched to trump, theyre approving of the president s handling of the job. So his job approval among key voters, its not everything butk key voters in certain battleground states. Its not bad. Youre in the middle of an impeachment deal and the president is looking at the numbers. Obviously the economy ishe soaring. Best in the world. Speaking of cnn, i have to bring this up. They once again fail to find swing state voters. Theyve been in search of them who is supporting impeachment. Heres how one of the reports summed it up. The vast majority of voters h that we spoke to in pennsylvania say they dont believe the president will be impeached or removed from office. But the key is they think the 2020 election will decide his fate. Laura so tom, they did the same thing in wisconsin before that poll came out. So i have to imagine this is how most americans are feeling. They want the election to happen, vote their views and thats it. Everything else is white noise. H i generally agree with that. This impeachment proceeding, one of the polls showed, 80 of the people have their minds made up before any testimony at all. And they havent moved. So this is what the democrats ultimately their problem is. There was no smoking gun, there was no direct testimony linkage. So even voters think that trump did something wrong or unethical dont think he should be impeached for it. Theres no getting around that. Pelosi is on this track now and i dont know if theyll can unwind it. They dont look like they can move it forward generating public support. So theyre stuck. Laura tom, you think as they go back to their home districtso their states and feeling squirrelly, given what the s public is saying to them or what their field offices are saying that something could change before that mid december vote . The only thing i think that would change is if the 24 democrats that just won in trump districts, if they go to pelosi and say look, you cant do this. We cannot do this. Were all going to lose. We have to pull the plug. Well vote for censure but not impeachment. Thats the only way she would go back to her caucus that 70 only whom are gung ho think its a done deal. Nk its not. Thats the only way they get out of this. Laura a fascinating theory. Thanks, tom. Coming up, the real bomb shell that dropped this week. The Justice DepartmentInspector General has reportedly discovered that an fbi staffer manipulated evidence to surveil Trump Campaign adviser carter page. Reaction from carter page himself, the first on fnc next. Hey. Hey. You must be stevens phone. Now you can take control of your home wifi and get a notification the instant someone new joins your network. Only with xfinity xfi. Download the xfi app today. Laura as democrats worked t conceal the whistleblower at the root of this impeachment scam, we now learned shocking new details about the genesis of the russia hoax. While the Justice Department special general Mike Horowitz has evidence that an fbi lawyer changed a key document that led to the surveillance of former Trump Campaign adviser carter page that joins us now. His first appearance on fnc. Carter, do you feel vindicated by this news . Its more of the same, laura. These people keep saying the same information. Weve known about this hoax for so long and the wrongdoing. Unfortunately, its theres been no real action to address these issues. Its a positive, but its not anything, you know, amazing. Laura carter, the Washington Post tried to down play the Inspector Generals reported findings saying the conduct did not affect the overall validity of the surveillance application according to u. S. Officials. The person under scrutiny is a lowlevel lawyer that has been forced out of the agency. To me ultrasounded like a preempted league. So by the time the report comes out, theyll say oh, we already covered that. Its all water under the bridge now. Did that surprise you to hear the post report on it this way . Again, kind of . Yeah, its not good but it didnt really affect the validity of the underlying warrant. Ive seen this coming a mile away. These people i have had zero input. I have had privacy act of 1974. I know youve had privacy act issues with things that have been done against you related to these ukraine issues. Unfortunately ive had zero information. They have this big many hundreds of pages of a report and ive had zero ability to review any of it or ask for any corrections. T meanwhile, these same people apparently who are leaking are having all kinds of input. Its a complete disaster. Laura the Mueller Report everyone has to remember what it stated about you, which people forget. Tie investigation did not establish that page coordinated with the russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 president ial election. That should have been the end of the story. I say to every american watching tonight, carter, they see you tonight on tv. But this could happen to anyone. If they can target someone with zero basis based on setup meetings and phony . Saying hi to someone at a convention suddenly you didnt tell us the truth about this. They did this to general flynn and tried to do it to you. It sends chills down my spine and everybody else watching. Maybe people think im being hyperbolic, but im not. Youre understating it. They werent just spying on me. They spied on all the people ihe talked with during the Trump Campaign, during the trump transition and into the early months through september apparently of 2017. So all of my interactions with various people. They swept up