I kid you not, some are even considering that. And why do some of those experts seem to be okay with it . One of the most preeminent figures in pediatrics is here with me tonight, he has some powerful warnings for parents and legislators, and its friday, so you know it is raymond arroyo, and we have some follies for you. Bidens latest bungle from the basement, and raymond has some thoughts on the Space Force Flag. What is that about . That was unveiled today. But first, the masks are off. That is the focus of tonights angle. President trump took to the rose garden today, and what did he do . He announced his new vaccine task force. He set the bar high with an aggressive timeline, but he gave america, at the same time, just what she needed optimism for opening. We have the best and most devoted workers ever to walk the face of the earth, and now we are combining all of these amazing strengths for the most aggressive vaccine project in history, and i just want to make something clear. Its very important. Vaccine or no vaccine, we are back, and we are starting the process. Laura i was doing the fist pump right there. Yes. Democrats, on the other hand, they prefer us to cower and crouch in our houses. They are pushing panic porn. They say we need multiple vaccines, not just one, and even if we have them come we dont how effective they will be. They say we need as many as 300,000 government paid tracers and hackers, hundreds of millions of tests, all of that before we can open again. And a purple unicorn on every street corner. The basic point here is democrats just dont trust you, and frankly, they dont even like you, so of course they want you to stay indoors, off the streets, and even out of out of your churches. With only a few exceptions, blue state governors all favor lockdowns over liberty. One of the absolute worst is michigans gretchen whitmer. Certainly not an exercise of democratic principles, where we have free speech. This is calls to violence, with the racist and misogynistic these protests, you know, in a perverse way, make it likelier that we are going to have to stay in a stay home posture. Laura you are not behaving. Washington States Jay Inslee is punishing people with another extension of his stayathome order, to the end of may now, even though they flattened the curve back in april in washington state. This is insane. So when will he give up his vice grip on power . Its just a long ways away from that. Because we know that the numbers are still so high an hour virus that it just cant justify opening up all of these business right now. Laura its not infections, jay, its hospitalizations, and deaths, thats what is the key here. Illinois governor j. B. Pritzkers escalating his threats against the disobedience. Businesses and individual professionals that are licensed by state agencies will be held accountable for breaching Public Health orders. Local Law Enforcement and the Illinois State police can and will take action. Laura oooh, big threat for a big man. Well, and Gavin Newsoms california, local officials are slapping already suffering businesses with 1,000 citations and threats for jail time for not complying with everything from mask wearing to social distancing, the way they are handling their businesses, whether the stickers are on the ground. L. A. County, the most populous in the state, is extending its lockdown at least another three months. I thought that was a joke when i first heard it. Meanwhile, the mayor of l. A. , he is power tripping. We are still getting reports each day of nonessential businesses that continue to operate as normal. This behavior is irresponsible and selfish. If we see continued noncompliance, they will end up facing misdemeanor charge and a dwp will step in and shut off their water and power. Laura and by the way, these prohibitions i love that shutting off your water. [laughs] the prohibitions, they arent written in law, they are done through gubernatorial edicts. So as long as it is called an emergency, these governors think they can travel on your rights with impunity, and they are doing that. But lawsuits are being filed, thats good news this week. People who have never protested before in their lives are picking up placards and protesting, even when their livelihoods are threatened, if they still have jobs, or if they are being threatened with jail time. You get the sense being out there and how americans are just fed up. We have a Day Care Center in franklin county, is not open whole way, barely open enough to keep us afloat. These things are typically a choice. There is a measles outbreak, and all the people who are sick stay home. They are making them stay home, it makes no sense to me. I think americans need to realize their freedoms are being taken away, and if they dont stand up for them right now, there wont be any freedom to stand up for her. Laura but do any of you watching tonight think that pelosi and schumer care about those people . Of course they dont. If youve lost your job, if your child is struggling with Distance Learning dont you love that phrase . If you are struggling with loneliness or addiction or depression, you are just Collateral Damage on the way to the new normal. All of us are going to be living in a new normal, whether that means wearing a mask, working in shifts. We are returning to our new normal, with all of what we talked about through all phases. What we have to do is design a new normal. A way of life to carry us to the other side. Laura their idea of a new normal, not so much dr. Birx, by the way, im talking about the politicians she got caught up in the lingo. It goes far beyond finding a vaccine or hand washing or covering your sneezes. Thats all fine, that is just common sense. The new normal for them is basically everything that hillary ran on and lost, plus some new radical ideas from Climate Change to mass amnesty to guaranteed income and to a massive wealth tax. If the pandemic ends, democrats lose their leverage, and they know it. That is why every chance they get, their media allies stoke the fears of a weary and worried nation. They want you to be afraid. Very afraid. Because when you are afraid, they have more power, they have more authority to tell you how to live your life. And make no mistake, they want this to continue indefinitely. They are playing the only car they have, the fear card. But there are increasing size in these polls and on the streets that it isnt working. There is traffic again around d. C. , maryland, and virginia. I noticed it today. And the always lively new orleans, we will hear from raymond in a moment, restaurants are closed down, but many are out and about, many, he told me, just ignoring the maskchambers outside of coffee shops. Freedom brigades of ordinary citizens are activated, enterprising americans are making adjustments and innovating smartly. Naturally, nascar will be the First National sport to reopen, albeit without fans. West virginia universitys football coach, he announced the fall season is on. The sec better follow, talking to you, alabama. My friends at cambria in minnesota put out a video of an old paul harvey broadcast today that really seemed apt. History i studied, ours and others, the more certain i am that there is one fertilizer essential to the survival of civilization, and that fertilizer is sweat, and i mean the kind of steamy, streaming, salty sweat that is run from a man by hard, physical work, and somehow the sweat gets into the soil of a farm or factory or city or state or nation, and everything thereabouts grows tall and strong and tough enough to stand against any storm. Laura to stand against any storm. The work ethic of america, the need to work, and work hard, of course he nailed it. Paul harvey always did. Americans have thrived on the idea that although life is often hard and challenging, you and your family have the freedom to decide how you want to live it. Democrats may live and shut down nirvana, but the emerging consensus is this if you want to stay at home, you can stay at home. But for the rest of us, well make our own decisions, thank you. Now we know more about this virus, extremely low lethalities or otherwise healthy younger americans, they do pretty well. Seniors, they need special care, since the socalled experts say it will be around forever, time to move on with our lives. The testing issue is just another democrat red herring, more impossible hoops to jump through. Testing and tracking for the rest of your life, since the virus will be with us forever, just like the flu, they say. The virus has taken many lives. And its awful. Its a tragedy. It has wrecked a once great economy. But it has also shown, for all the world to see, who these new radical democrats really are and what they want. Theyre petty dictators who want to fundamentally change the america we love. You know, the old normal. The masks are off. And that is the angle. Joining me now is victor davis hanson, senior fellow at the hoover institution. Victor, at what point do the democrats just surrender and reopen . Or do they just drag us all down with them . Yeah, i thought they were the party of science, and science is if you have access to western medicine, and we do, and most people are not 65 or older like i am, and they dont have comorbidity, they have about one or two chances in a thousand, what they risk every day with an elective surgery, less chance of dying. So we have to change the dialectic. The people in georgia and florida and texas are going out, they are the people who are creating capital and labor and investment, that is the kind of money that pays for the other people to be locked down, because just because you have a pension or Social Security or your high school teacher, and that check comes in the mail and you are locked down, that doesnt mean that is real money. We printed 3 trillion. Nancy pelosi wants to print 3 trillion more, that is a construct. The only thing that will pay for your salary if you want to be locked down our people in georgia or people in florida creating real wealth. The sad thing is this whole thing and every dimension has been weaponized. Nancy pelosi put in that recent bill, agenda that never had 51 . If they were to pass, we would have six or 7 trillion in annual debt, and it would be the largest redistribution con in our history, that somebody would have to pay for, either with negative Interest Rates or gas taxes or income tax. It would really be a fundamental shift to the left, and then on the more mundane level, getting all of these napoleonic figures that come out of the woodwork, the county commissioner, the mayor, and they are destroying the first and second even the fourth and fifth amendments on edict that have no legislative majority. Nobody voted for them. Laura victor power hungry. Laura the powerhungry, little many tyrants, they are so annoying at every level. It is not about science, its about them and perpetuating power, but victor, you know what im really amazed by it is after they have been exposed for screwing up the old folks home, in new york, Governor Cuomo is claiming well, he is letting the region half the regions in his state reopen, but this didnt sound very, well, opening. Residential commercial construction with masks, the employer must provide the masks. Any gloves, no congregate meetings, for retail businesses, anyone in the vehicle must be wearing a mask. The store owner must make Hand Sanitizer available. Store owners should not let you in the store for an instore pickup. Laura he was talking about curbside pickup. I mean, it is just a mindnumbingly detailed stuff that people can figure out on their own. I think. Its tragically ironic, laura, because Governor Cuomo, the new jersey governor, or the mayor of new york, which account for about half the deaths of the United States and those two states, along with massachusetts, if they said instead of that speech, we are not going to send active cases into nursing homes, we are going to clean the subways every night, and we are going to social distance on public transportation, we wouldnt have half the deaths in the United States in two or three states, and you can really see how this is becoming weaponized, and with the 2020 election looming in the distance because i think people feel the narrative used to be that donald trump caused the virus and its going to be an epidemic, but if the case is level off and we have another danger greater than the virus, and that his economic collapse, now they are almost saying, well, hes keeping us locked down. We cant get at it, he is Herbert Hoover all of a sudden. When you see joe biden locked in his basement, you get the idea that they do not want him out on a campaign trail in july and august. Laura no. Or even september. They want him to have a telecampaign from his basement, starting after labor day, where they carry him across the finish line, because they have an existential problem with him, hes not cognitively able to run a physical, muscular campaign. Laura they are science people, but the science of telling us one thing at least, depends on which scientists you talk to. Victor, great to see you tonight. Have a great weekend. The ingraham angle has long questioned the conventional wisdom of the true lethality of covid19. At one point, we were led to believe the mortality rate would be devastating. We know with certainty it is well below 1 , but there is another shocking trend emerging. How covid deaths are being counted. Just today, colorado lowered its death toll by nearly 20 . How did they do that . They simply separated people who died from covid from the total number of people who died with covid, get it . Thats not to diminish any deaths, they are all horrific, but if Public Policy as being based on these numbers, the public needs the right numbers. Joining me now is dr. Scott jensen, family physician and Minnesota State senator, also with me is jim desmond, San Diego County supervisor. Dr. Jensen, do you expect more states to follow colorados lead, given what we are learning about individuals who die with covid, and not from covid, being counted as covid . I think so, absolutely. I think we saw pennsylvania subtract 200 something from theirs. I think minnesota is actually leading on this. Minnesota came out recently and said we are going to separate our probables, if we dont have laboratory confirmation, we are going to call them separately. They decided not to use Johns Hopkins for their data source. I think minnesota saying we are going to try to do it the right way. I think colorado is to going to as well they should. Because this is a big deal. Hennepin county and minneapolis, we have commissioners saying that they dont think some of these dollars that are coming from the feds should go to counties that dont have any covid because they should get it all, the hennepin county, the big city, and yet, those smaller out state areas, they had to invest in preparation. They had to shut down, follow all the rules. We knew this was going to happen. We knew that the numbers were going to drive the claims to the dollars. Laura well, you always follow the money in cases like this, and mr. Desmond, you took a lot of heat for your discovery of what was happening in your county in california, tell us what you discovered. Well, weve had 200 deaths in San Diego County, and each of the families who lost a loved one, my heart goes out to them, but yes, out of those 200 deaths, only 6 had no underlying conditions, thats not to say the virus wasnt a catalyst or minimizes those deaths. Its just a fact, like all the others, that i need to consider to make good decisions, and the whole concept of what i was talking about what was that when this came out, we want to do safely open up our businesses, in San Diego County. We are now 28 unemployment and rising, with no end in sight. And for us to advance to the next phase of opening businesses laura well, yeah sorry to chime in, but the cdc, the Washington Post is reporting, that the Statistics Branch at their National Center for Health Statistics said i think the evidence points to the fact that we are underestimated, rather than overestimating, the system is designed to collect data on causes of deaths, not what condition the person mightve had. Thats the problem, dr. Jensen. I mean, they have a lot to protect here, do they not . I dont have an enormous amount of faith right now in the cdc. I wish i did. I wish i didnt feel the way i feel about it, but something stinks to high heaven here. I think the cdc has got to be recognized for what it is, it is a political organization. Back in the 1940s when its original creation was, if you will, to defend against malaria, totally different. Mission creep has taken over, and the cdc has chimed in with a lot of other political organizations, and this is why i think we saw corners to speak up in pennsylvania, its why ive spoken up. Weve had physicians speak up all around the country, and in california and montana. We are not going to go down without swinging. A lot of it is just malarkey. In the policy is being driven by flawed models that dont represent science, and i think that this has been problematic from the word go. Laura ive got to say, you think about california, and what an amazing state california is. I know it is really liberal, but is incredible. I spent a lot of time there. Live there is number when i was in law school. Its an incredible state. To lockdown so much of the state for the proportional deaths 40 Million People in that state of california. 40 Million People. And what is the death count today . Its horrible, but compared to new york or new jersey . They were in pretty good situation in california. Like, 2400 deaths, i think, ultimately. Well, and our governor still keeping us locked down, and hes given unattainable goals in the counties for us to attain, and that is that we have to have 14 consecutive days of zero covidrelated deaths for us to move to the next level. And we are a county of 3. 3 Million People. We can never a