That critics claim. Dan henninger and kim strassel. Mary, we will get to the politics which are corn here, but first just as a decision was it the right one . I think it was and i think there were three major problems with this agreement. The first is in a costbenefit analysis, the numbers just dont add up. President , president obama committed to certain regulations that would cost the economy a lot and i think President Trump is right. But the payoff very was small in its progression and not enough to make the cost worthwhile and there was also a huge Money Transfer of 3 billion that was supposed to go to a United Nations green fund and we know that we would never see that money again. Paul right, dan, the argument, though, for saying in, there was a lot of pressure, the Business Community, a lot of businesses really wanted him to stay in because they begun to think that this is good politics for them marketing. Marketing. Paul thats right. The argument that scott pruitt of the epa made if you stay in even though maybe these were voluntary guidelines, estimates. You had to meet, you could be sued here in the United States by green groups that said, well, they may be voluntary but we committed to them, you have to stick with them in. Well, exactly right which is to say that the agreement which is voluntary has no common metrics to evaluate it. It was a forcing mechanism. Just like pruitt said, once it was in place because its simply an agreement, something voluntary agreement, people say whats the harm, the harm is that it was going to enable them to then force those policies into play via the courts, in other words, via a system that they couldnt do politically. If the Paris Agreement were that important, they would have had real policies in there with real Enforcement Mechanisms but that was politically impossible so now they have to come in through this back door. Paul kim, this was a conservatives oppose today populist, nationalist conservatives opposed to it while much of the Business Community was for it. How real was this debate in the white house . It looked like it was Something Like a cliffhanger. Trump didnt know which direction was going to go. He was uncertain pretty much right up to the announcement because he seemed to be style and listens to opposing forces and you did have two different sides and guys like scott pruitt making forcefully the argument about the economy and how does agreement doesnt really help the environment and steve bannon saying this is a campaign promise, you need to keep with it but then you had folks reportedly like Jared Kushner and ivanka trump, relatives of the president and also Rex Tillerson saying that for diplomatic reasons you really needed to stay in. Blowback from the International Community would just be too great. Paul well, what about the blowback, its just substantial. Donald trump said, look, we are going to renegotiate this, make it better terms but quickly Angela Merkel and european frenches and italians said, no way, its not going to happen. I suspect its not going to happen. Look, i think that for many people and, you know, i heard Vice President pence say this, this has become an ideology, Global Warming and thats very much the case in International Nations and some of our allies. Theres going to be blowback whether or not we pulled out of the agreement or whether or not we lived under our commitments which by the way under President Trumps agenda it was never going to be possible. This is a cleaner way to do it and the Trumps Administration way forward that they will lead in other agreements with our allies. Paul was it a mistake the president not to say, look, just submit this to the senate, submit it as a treaty, president obama submitted it even though he was making enormous national commitments, we are going to avoid congress. If he had submitted to the senate as a treaty, he might have democrats who voted against it and would look politically weaker. Some of the opponents are going to try to wait him out. If youre going to try to circumvent the democratic process, this is the kind of thing you will have to live with because the next president who comes along can reverse what you did. You know, president obama used that kind of, you know, executive power in a way that, i think really goes against what this country and the constitution stands for. And obviously he has thrown down the gauntlet in opposition, big time. What he did here was a political and economic reality check. He described the industry, paper, transportation, oil, steel, jobs would be lost and its not that democrats are unaware of that, barack obama constantly and Hillary Clinton in her campaign would talk about all of the good jobs that were going to be created by people making solar panels. Now, what that meant they knew that what they were proposing was going to cost jobs in these other industries and trump is saying, im protecting those jobs here now while wait if for promise of solar panel jobs. Paul the United States abided by whatever commitments we made but china, india and frankly europe, they have commitments that they dont live up to but we would have and thats a big difference. With first trip abroad behind him President Trump return this week to the washington from ongoing russia probe to renewed rumors of westwing shakeup, how can the president keep his agenda on track . We will ask karl rove next. You diet. You exercise. And if you still need help lowering your blood sugar. This is jardiance. Along with diet and exercise. Jardiance lowers blood sugar and a1c in adults with type 2 diabetes. 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Tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and if you have any medical conditions. So talk to your doctor about jardiance the one and only type 2 diabetes treatment with heart. Visit jardiance. Com for a free consultation with a certified diabetes educator if you qualify. Paul fresh off his first trip abroad President Trump returns this week to the turmoil and leak that is have plagued his white house for months. Shakeup continue with Communications Director mike dubke resigning and more departure rumors to come and how can the president keep agenda on track . Lets ask karl rove, he served as Senior Adviser to president george w. Bush. So karl, i want to ask you first about this decision to leave paris because you experienced something similar to this in the Bush Administration when the president decided not to embrace uproar then and there was a internationally, what advice do you have for the Trump Administration on how to cope with something similar now . Well, first of all, youre absolutely right. This is dejavu all over again and one of my white house colleagues at the time now teaches out of stanford blogged last night that this is another example of what he calls qtips, quantitative total impact insignificant, total political impact significant. So this is youre right. This is the right decision to make. The question is is the president going to spend the next six or seven or eight or nine, ten days, he and his administration explaining to the American People in detail and giving an optimistic vision of what American Leadership in this issue can mean or are they going to move on to the next thing and i think its really vital that think win this issue. What we had to do is explain why we had something that was better than kioto and focus on Energy Efficiency and by doing so we would reduce the absolute level of Carbon Emissions because at the heart of the Paris Agreement, paris accord is that the nations that commit to it are committee to make energy more expensive, more expensive to drive your car, to cool or warm your home, to power the plant at which you worked and as a result thats going to reduce Economic Growth in the prosperity of virtually every america and every American Families so you have to make the argument. Paul okay, lets move on to the news, the reports of a potential white house shakeup. You wrote about this for us this week. What do you think its the number one priority if the president really wants to get this thing back, this white house better organized and disciplined in. Number one, go out and get the apparatus in place to handle the russia investigation so that it no longer consumes the time of the communicators of the white house and degree policy, the policymakers of the white house but you have to get it done right. Paul do do you quarantine . Thats right. Has to be led by lawyers and not communicators. They are going to restrain the public comments. You put the communicators in charge particularly trump likes to talk to communicators as killers, you will stir up a lot of cable tv news and its going to be fun and entertaining to watch but debilitating to the white house. Down play it. Paul how do you control the president because one of the keys here has to be the president has to stop tweeting about russia, just ignore it. I assume that would be your counsel but doesnt look like hes containable on this . He better get himself contained, the most of the problems are problems that he causes and particularly the tweets. Its not just the tweets on russia. A lot of the other tweets are unconstructive to the fulfillment of his agenda or the explanation of it to the American People. Kim strassel whom you had earlier wrote a wonderful piece on friday on how all the great things are happening and nobody knows about them. This week as she pointed out the keystone, Dakota Access pipeline began moving energy and thats directly because the administration. Why didnt we have a white house ceremony with the president bushed a button to begin the pipeline and instead got obscured by tweets. Angela merkel trolled him for god sakes, shes on the campaign trail in germany and makes a comment that antagonizes and he goes after her, what the heck is that about . Paul thats the way he is. Lets talk about the staffing issue because one of the problems with this white house is a lot of the factionalism inside it. Does he need whatever i know you respect Reince Priebus, i doe, but i dont think donald trump has given him the authority, does he need a new chief of staff . No, he needs to change his behavior because if he doesnt change his behavior, the same problems that are occurring today will occur under a new chief of staff. He needs to give reince the ability, Reince Priebus the chief of staff the ability to to have some lowlevel leaker and fire him as a message to the rest of the team. He needs to give reince the ability to give discipline somebody who is backstanding and sending a message that its not tolerated. This has to start at the top. The president has to be committed when you leak against one of your colleagues, youre hurting me and hurting our agenda and when you are failing to when youve engaging in warfare, youre engaging in warfare with me. Paul what about the communications here, sean spicer has taken so much abuse but my sense of things is you couldnt shuffle that and put in a new spokesperson and unless you have more discipline from the top, its not going to matter. Absolutely. The communicators are an expression of the rest of the white house, theyre an expression of what you have a discipline plan of what you want the message to be and the message has to be connected intimately with what it is that you want your policy to be. Results matter. At the end of the day its not just about picking whats the nice message for today, its about picking what is it that we are going to focus our taxi on and how do we explain that to the American People. Paul all right, thank you, karl, i appreciate it. You bet, thank you, paul. Paul when we come back the russia probe ramps up as former fbi director james comey prepares to testify before the senate and weber4s new genesis ii. Weber. For life. Go to weber. Com for more information. i wanted him to eat healthy. , so i feed jake purina cat chow naturals indoor, a nutritious formula with no artificial flavors. Made specifically for indoor cats. Purina cat chow. Nutrition to build better lives. Paul new developments in the russia probe as the House Intelligence Committee issued subpoenas to former National Security adviser Michael Flynn and President Trumps personal lawyer Michael Cohen but an unexpected turn the panel issued subpoenas related to unmasking of trump transition members by a trio of former Obama Administration officials, National Security adviser susan rice, former cia director john brennan and former u. S. Embassador to the United NationsSamantha Power. We are bag with dan henninger, kim stossel and board member rigo. How significant is this in the only crimes that have been committed have been the leaking of classified information to deal with mr. Flynn and others and what was notable about the subpoenas this week is that we have a new name of somebody who unmasked a trump official, we dont know who yet, which trump official. Paul are we sure Samantha Power unmasked . Do we know that for sure . He would not be sending unless she hadnt done it. Its a very strong bet that that is indeed the case. Paul she has not commented on this, has she . Not so far. We dont know. But we have had susan rice all but confirmed that she did, indeed, unmask Trump Officials and mr. Brennan too. So itll be interesting to see what she has to say because its very difficult to come up with a good reason for why the former embassador to the United Nations would be unmasking officials. Paul all right, what about devin nunes and the democrats are hitting him, youre supposed to be out of the russian probe and why are you issuing subpoenas . He has never rescued himself from the question of who is doing leaking and who is doing unmasking in the white house or out of the white house. Paul all right, lets talk, joe, about this attempt in the white house now, we have news that theyre hiring some lawyer lawyers, Donald Trumps longtime lawyer will lead the defense for donald trump and create a unit in the white house much as karl rove advised that would deal with this, isolated, try to quarantine it . Moving their agenda and managing a scandal, the benefit here is that youve got a lot of policy people that are getting pulled off on the russia news of the day and cant do their actually day job. Paul right. I think its a shrewd move to try to put this in a dedicated movement and move onto other things. Paul it doesnt mean that the news wont come out. We will have comey testified, if i learned anything watching jim comey over the years he will have bit of news that will draw attention to his testimony and get back at donald trump for fireing firing him so its utterly crucial. Only one possible crime has been identified and that is unmasking of some of the Trump Officials. For all of the volumes that have been written about this, no one yet has identified a crime specifically Robert Mueller, there are suggestions and then possibility of, it isnt clear and, you know, sean spicer then gets asked questions that have no answers. Theres no reason why the white house should be dealing with this guest story and makes complete sense to give it to the lawyers who like Robert Mueller and want to talk to the lawyers, they can. Paul what about Jared Kushner, the report is he had meetings with russian embassador and requested to set up a back panel using the russian communication system, that was the big story on the weekend. How serious is this in terms of implicating kushner in anything untoward with the russians . To dans point, we dont know. The kushner story is emblematic of all the problems we have right now with the russia story and that you had unnamed sources and sort of halfleak reporting in the Washington Post