Evil can exist, how there can be such cruelty and such suffering. But we cannot be defined by the evil that threatens us or the violence that incites such terror. Words cannot describe the bravery that the whole world witnessed on sunday night. Americans defied death and hatred with love and with courage. We will all have to wrestle with the horror of what has unfolded this week. But we will struggle through it together, and we will overcome together as americans. Lets bring in wall street journal columnist and Deputy EditorDan Henninger and columnist mary ogrady and bill. Bill, what do you make of the president s response . I think it was right. It was the right tone. You know, a president needs to go and visit. Hes a national figure. I also think the tone of the people out there, you know, we saw incredible stories of bravery and its a very american story, people in official positions standing up and not running away from the fire. There was a marine that stole a car to drive people to the hospital, the security guard, who, you know, got shot, and the doctors. It is an incredible story of you know, the government has a big role, but a lot of people took the initiative themselves. And its amid the heart ache, theres a lot of information about how ordinary people behaved. Yeah, and i think in the aftermath also the Law Enforcement in las vegas has been really impressive. Sheriff lombardo has been holding these press conferences and speaking very clearly, being very careful with what he knows, what he doesnt know. And the press is just hounding him, asking the same questions over and over again, but hes really held his composure, and i think its a really like bill says, a very heroic story the president s role these days when events like this get so widely publicized, a horrible event, the country just feels completely shocked down to their shoes and the president goes out there i think as a representative for all of us, he is saying what we feel and what we would convey to those people if we were there. Donald trump did it in an extraordinarily appropriate way representing the american people. Not polarizing at all. Not at all. Mary, what about the way the debate has turned elsewhere . It pretty quickly evolved into another debate over gun control. Well, you know, it is another crisis that some people dont want to let go to waste, and certainly theres a lot of cynical, i think, politicians, entertainers, but i think one of the big problems is that as dan says, i mean, the American Public is just so shocked and stunned at this that their first reaction is do something. Can we do something because this we cant abide this, and so therefore it opens the door for these, you know, discussions about gun control, even though, people basically know that there is no easy answer to this problem. But what does it say i think most of us, certainly my reaction to this was is anybody i know in this crowd . These are people who went to a concert, okay, in a place where most americans in their lifetime will visit. Right. Las vegas, and you dont expect to be shot at. Right. And have people falling all around you. Right. I was looking at the New York Post pictures of all the dead, the largest chunk seem to be 30yearold women, out for a night out. I think mary is a little nicer than i am on this, i dont think that the reaction that you were speaking of is really more theres a reaction not just for gun control, but to characterize those who disagree as haters and evil, i mean, when you have jimmy kimmel, it means you have lost the argument. When you are depending on him you mean to make the case . To make the case. These people dont want a rational argument. Look at twitter, look at the stuff it is all about blood on their hands, we could have a sensible argument, what are practical measures that may not eliminate this but might make it less possible . They dont want that. This is a wedge i think frankly its despite what they want, it is playing into Donald Trumps hands. Is anything, dan, that you have seen proposed here in the wake of this, whether it be eliminating bump stocks to make a semiautomatic weapon fire more rapidly than it is supposed to or more background checks or other things, would anything have prevented paddock from doing this . Nothing that we know of right now. I mean, i think the focus is misplaced. It shouldnt so much be on the weaponry itself but on the sorts of individuals that commit these crimes whether they are deranged or say a terrorist but paddock didnt fit any of those profiles. I understand that, but for instance, Stephen Paddock as an example bought those rifles in four different states. If we had using Something LikeBig Data Software that would have tracked the fact that he was buying these rifles in four different states just as say a terrorist is buying fertilizer and elements in four Different Stores into a central database, then you can focus on someone like that. 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Get those kids some new capri sun this country has the loosest set of gun laws allowing dangerous people to own dangerous weapons in the industrialized world, and so what is unacceptable in the wake of the most deadly mass shooting in the history of the country is for this utter silence, this unintentional complicity from congress to continue. Renewed calls on capitol hill for gun control legislation in the wake of the Las Vegas Massacre, but would more laws prevented sundays killings and can they stop future mass casualty events . I earlier spoke to law professor, david coppell, Research Director of Independence Institute and author of the book, the truth about gun control. David coppell, good to have you with us. New calls for gun control in the wake of las vegas. I want to take these arguments, based on what we know one by one. Start with automatic weapons, if Stephen Paddock had automatic weapons that was illegal under the law, correct . Yes. 1986 federal law said no new automatics can be sold to anyone in the public. Ever since 1934 even owning a old one has been process that requires about nine months to get federal permission to do so. Okay. Letslets go to semiautomatic weapons, fire single pull of the trigger with unshot. He had a lot of those apparently including ar15s which are a popular form of semiautomatic weapon. If he adapted those to make more rapid firing like a automatic weapon that is also illegal under federal law, right . Depends how the adaptation is done. It appears he used something called a bump stock is currently legal under the federal statutory definition. That is something the congress should have hearings on. Lets talk about that because that has gotten a lot of attention. Why would have normal person who has a rifle want to use a bump stock . For people that want to go to the range to shoot rounds off quickly. That is the market for it. It is something that degrades the accuracy of the gun. Makes it less useful for selfdefense. Obviously would be unlawful probably to use it in hunting. Is there another way to adapt, without a bump stock, to adapt a semiautomatic in a way to allow it to become automatic . There are conversion kits which genuinely change a semiautomatic into a fully automatic but those are already regulated the same as a real automatic. So post1986 it is impossible to buy a new one. Okay. But if youre a determined killer, youre somebody like paddock, you can find a way, can you not, to take a semiautomatic weapon and turn it into a rapid fire automatic . Well, you could go to someone who is sophisticated with machine shop skills. If they can work down to tolerances of a thousandth of an inch iting possible to do that modification with tools. Okay. So i think what a lot of people who are just average citizens who say, you know what . Ii want to go to a concert which is safe, i dont want to have to worry about my son or daughter getting shot at public event, Country Music concert or anything else, do we really need rifles like the ar15 to be legal . Why not band them all . You cant the risk of anyone adapting them into a killing machine. You can understand why people think that because it seems so incomprehensible. As you say, people have a right to be safe when theyre out in Public Places but if youre going to go down that road which australia went down, youre talking about gun confiscation from tens of millions of people, that is unlikely to work out. The drug war hasnt been too successful in it country. This would be something much, much worse than that besides getting rid of the Second Amendment, we would have to get rid of the fourth and fifth amendment too. Your argument it would be illegal under the Second Amendment to ban these kinds of guns in the first place. Even if you did succeed making, changing the Second Amendment or passing a law that the court said was legal, you would have a major, major problem just politically on your hands getting ahold of those guns . Yeah. This is a country that was founded in part in 1775 when gun fistcation program was Confiscation Program was implemented in lexington and concord. People didnt like it then. This would cause danger for Law Enforcement if they tried to confiscate guns from the public. Australia did it. As you know they outlawed many guns in the 1990s. They had a big Buyback Program to purchase guns. They purchased more than 650,000 guns. A lot of people point to as you you australia, you know what that worked. They havent had mass casualty events they have in the United States. What is your response to that . The fact is true and new zealand hasnt had those mass casualty events and new zealand didnt change its gun laws. Countries like norway or france with much more oppressive gun laws than in the United States, still have mass casualty events, with many more mass casualties than even in las vegas. In general, australia and the United States have both seen a longterm decline in their murder rates. Asaustralia at a time when it confiscated guns and United States when we added 80 million guns to the gun supply. What would you tell the average american who says i want to go to events, i want my family to be safe . What can we do to stop mass casualty events with gun regulation or is that simply impossible . I think it depends on, from a event to event. I think, in this case, the issue of bump stocks which can, it is allegedly seems to be true, make a semiautomatic firearm fire as fast as automatic probably should be regulated at same level as a machine gun. You should have to go through the same federal process to purchase one. Okay. All right. David kopel, appreciate you being here. Thank you. When we come back, unusual, public denial from secretary of state Rex Tillerson this week as he seeks to dispel reports of bad blood with President Trump. Im not from this place but the places i come from we dont deal with that kind of petty nonsense. Nye commitment to the success of our president and country is as strong as it was the day i accepted his offer to serve as secretary of state. There has never been a consideration of my mind to leave. I serve at the appointment of president and i am here as long as the president feels i can be useful to achieving his objectives. That was secretary of state Rex Tillerson this week in unusually public denial of a report said he was on the verge of resigning over his cabinet post over the summer. Tillerson condemned as petty nonsense rumors that he called the president a moron in a pentagon meeting this came days after President Trump seemed to undercut tillerson in a tweet. He said, the americas top diplomat is wasting his time to negotiate with little rocket man, north koreas kim jongun. The president is announced next week whether he will decertify the pact. Lets bring in dan hen anyone officer, merry an establish that ogrady and bill mcgurn. What does it tell us about the team. Is it dysfunctional . I dont know that. President trump is unusual president in his conduct of Foreign Policy or anything else. That is not news. President s wax and wane in enthusiasm for the secretary of state and state department. Nixon didnt care for it so much until he put Henry Kissinger over there. John kerry able to execute president obamas Foreign Policy on iran with susan rice calling shuts. He is running Foreign Policy out of National Security council and department of defense. Rex tillerson is something of an outsider. The problem because trump has nonstop battle going on with the press, any distance perceived between tillerson and trump will be elevated and used as a wedge between him and Donald TrumpsForeign Policy. Okay, but you have put this in the context of trump and his cabinet. He publicly attacked Jeff Sessions, mary. Publicly fired tom price after humiliating him in public. He is two or three times at least, at least two, contradicted tillerson publicly, most recently in the tweet on north korea we talked about. Tough to work for a guy who does that. Yeah. I would say that they could kind of patch that up if they can fix the, what you would call strategic communication, sort of get on the same page but theres north problem that tillerson has which is that he came into the state department with this idea that he would overhaul the place. So he has got these consultants going through and looking at what the problems are and so forth. Deputy secretary John Sullivan last week went before the state, the House Foreign Affairs committee and said, were almost done. Which is, going to be a good thing. And but in the meantime, secretary, the secretary has not, has left 22 vacancies in a assistant or deputy positions. And those are key policy decision. Exactly, and the problem is in their place are Career Foreign Service officers who tend to be bringing with them all the baggage of the former administration. So i think thats part of where the clash is coming with president. There are some policy disputes. We mentioned the iran deal. We mentioned the north korean exchange. Qatar versus saudis and trump was with the saudis. Tillerson wanted to be mediator. The climate deal where he disagreed with the president. There is major policy disputes. Right. You have to get on board with your president. If youre outlining differences there, that is a problem for me. I say one thing, trump obviously is very difficult man to work with, but if you called your president a moron at a meeting of, at the pentagon, youre a moron. There are very few places where you can call your boss a moron and survive of the. Wall street journal being one. Now i, i actually feel a little more optimistic about state having read this politico argument saying he is destroying the state department. This was written by a staffer samantha power. Maybe he is doing something good. Substance on north korean thing. I think trump was actually right in the tweet. If it is good cop, bad cop next, if its a good cop, bad cop thing im not so sure that is bad. Tillerson pose through negotiations and trump saying well, were not really sure. The problem is, the real problem there weve been talking to the north koreans for 25 years. We actually reach agreements with them. And then they defy them. Theyre not going to, theyre not going to, even if we reached a deal, there is no way they are going to obey it. You made the point that certain secretaries of state often been isolated and so on but it really does mean that when Rex Tillerson goes out to asia as he d