Any attempt to bucket before appearing before his committee would amount to objection saying the moment for the white house to assert some privilege to prevent this testimony fromas being heard has long passed. Eightyfirst attorney general of the u. S. Welcome. Me lemmie ask you about the criticism leveled in the last week against william barr. For his summary of the Mueller Report and his conclusion that there was no obstruction. Is unfair . I dont get is. First of all, as far as the initial case, i dont think it was meant as a summary of 400 page report. I think what is meant to do was to give the toppling conclusions so that the fever that was ongoing in the country, there were networks that had time clocks in the upper righthand corner, countdown clocks to win the report would be turned over. People were sitting around and the rising hypothesized over the document they had not seen. I think he rightly and responsibly summarized what the conclusions work which was, he summarized even the adverse part of the second. There wasnt an a exoneration. It was not exoneration and there was no criminal collusion. What about this fight over providing, letting congress see the redacted parts of the report. Ed he will let them see the redacted parts in a secret room except for the grand jury testimony. Is that fair . It is. I think it may be unnecessary but fine, let them see. Its easy for me to say because i dont know whats redacted. The reductions are actually very limited. I think its less than 6 of the total reductions. The reason for each reduction were given. Including prejudice Ongoing Investigation and ongoing cases. I assume he will show them that. He said he will do that. He says you got to tell turned the whole report. Will he went . Yes. The exceptions that there is a provision for going to court to get us whats called an order, the grand jury imitations listed. Thats only for purposes. Its not to satisfy curiosity. This, i suppose could pass a statute amending it. Its not going to happen. Lets go to the subpoena isng breaking up. He will resist all subpoenas. Its a rare position for executive branch. Do you think there will be some giveandtake . Interesting, he mentioned the possibility of constitutional crisis. Showdown. [laughter] right. Constitutional showdown. But neither congresses right to subpoena the executive nor executive privilege is in the constitution. Both of these are powers. Its a showdown of implicit powers, no explicit powers. These things are usually resolved voluntarily in the branches. He indicated a lot of plans and it almost never and should never go to court because courts dont want to resolve this. Right, the political branches to find out themselves. On the other hand, if the congress does issued subpoenas, if he says executive coverage does not allow to happen, they have a lot of before and they could settle for sure. And you notice at thee time, in the holder case, i think it was to a half years. Right, it took a long time. They finally ruled the executive privilege would not be of level. A new congress convened it. Is also particular sku, white House Counsel who talked extensively to the mueller investigators and its laid out in the report. The congress is saying we want to haul him up here to talk about that. Trump is saying no, we will not allow that. Could claim executive what grounds they would object but having talked to special counsel, does that mean privilege is already waived . I dont think so. First ofwo all, not necessarily, the special counsel is when within the executive. Second, weavers are very narrowly construed. Its conceivable that this waiver will be construed only if it encompasses what he told the special counsel. Progress hadnt seen that yet. So the first step theyve seen the report. Yes but they havent seen the testimony. If there is a record, i do believe there is. For the first step, would be for them to seek the testimony. Not satisfiedare with that. I think the fact they wanted that, it speaks not to the desire for information but its much more dramatic and much more surface like to have a live witness there then is to have a live report. How do you think this showdown will work out . We just have this stalemate for the most part for the next two years . That depends on the personality involved. I know the president will fight the subpoenas but what people say behind the curtain may be different from what he says in front of the curtain. They may end up giving some leeway. Right. Again, thats the way they get resolved. Congress could hold somebody in contempt, theres even a summary of power in congress to go and arrest somebody. The last time that was done was in the 1930s when a former official of the Hoover Administration wasas arrested ad held at the will of total. I dont think that will happen again. Thank you. When we come back, anti pelosi urging a party push. A closer look at the democratic divide when we come back. One of the most divisive paths we can go to in our country. Thats what it takes, we have no choice. We are not there yet. We are not there yet. Thats the word this week from nancy pelosi as a push to launch impeachment proceedings against trump. Washington post wednesday, 2016 democratic nominee Hillary Clinton called special counsel Robert Muellers report a roadmap. Documents a serious crime against the American People. Urged democrats not to rush the process writing congress should hold substantive hearings that build on the Mueller Report, not straight to an up or down vote on impeachment. Bill, what we have here is the impeachment straddle. We got people saying hes guilty of obstruction, guilty of crim crimes, impeachable offenses but we dont want to quite get to impeachment. Pelosi said we are not there. Depends on what you mean by the word week. There are some in her party who clearly want to move ahead. They think the Mueller Report gives them the evidence they need. Even jerry now that a few months decide in terms of the former process, he would be the key player. He said they would need before they start this, evidence that was so persuasive that even people who voted for trump would be persuaded. You cant have an impeachment where half the people think youre just going after the other guys party. The democrats, its that with the Mueller Report, there will be no republican votes in the house for this. It doesnt go anywhere in the senate so a lot of these people one like cheryl, one for the republican district, didnt mention trump. This is not what they want. But they want both ways. They were to say hes guilty but then they dont want to pull the trigger on impeachment. Its a little bit either committed or he didnt. Thats right. I think nancy pelosi pretty much conveys the dilemma of that straddle. What we are talking about here is whether the democrats are going to become the trump impeachment party. From now until october 2020. Make no mistake, if they start the impeachment proceedings, the mainstream media, which was so invested in the collusion narrative loss on that, once nothing more than to permit and push the trump impeachment narrative. You think the newspapers will have any interest whatsoever and healthcare . Infrastructure, that sort of thing. They defined themselves, potentially as against trump. Assessed with chubb. Is that a winning political strategy . ,but you following the democratic candidacy, you have them say yes, Kamala Harris has, for that, some of the others, most of the others have not how much is the pressure at the grassroots and the ranking filing congress to start up impeachment proceedings . Thats why you see them in the straddle is because there is enormous pressure for them to dt just that. There are members of the community who feel that should be the democrats only job, to reverse the last election because thats howuc much they hate for trump is not the president ial candidate so far, elizabeth warren, Kamala Harris, their down in the polls, this is a bit off a play to get attention. Maybe breakout of it. The wiser of the party understand they just cant go there. At this moment, forget republican votes. They probably dont have democrat votes. Its likely that you what she did. No rush to up or down vote. It could be very embarrassing they did, if they didnt even have their own party in that vote failed. I guess pelosi is concerned, she doesnt want to cross pressure, swing district seat the democrats picked up in 2018. She knows if forced to, some may have to vote for impeachment because of the gulf primary challenge but then they could be heard in november. Theres no real good answer here for them. Thats a lie thats why you see they are going to hold all these hearings, more hurtful information on the president that they can used to beat him on, beat him with when they go into the president ial election. Thats why they are trying to get out of this. He helped or hurt if impeachment proceedings began . I think he will be helped post Mueller Report. Hell be able to say look, they spent two years on this special counsel jihad against me on collusion and this isnt there. He has the attorney general explain why there was no objection. Ih in some sense, i think it would make sense for them to talk about impeachment but not really do it, to put a taint on him for the campaign. They know it will not go anywhere because even if they did, we wouldnt do anything. A wounded candidate, to one extent, he wondered himself. Usually in this situation, but the white house lawyers take over in the proceedings and go on with the u. S. Trump may just decide hell take them on himself personally, day after day and make himself you know he would. He would say, its an opportunity. He become obsessed as well and the public say we are fed up. You run the risk of exhausting with the trump presidency. Its going pretty well rhino and the question is, will he do th that . Thank you, when we come back, rse biden makes it official. Pr in an already crowded democratic race. Sell his candidacy to an increasingly less winning party. The latest innovation from xfinity isnt just a store. Its a save more with a new kind of Wireless Network store. Its a look what your wifi can do now store. A get your questions answered by awesome experts store. Its a now theres one store that connects your life like never before store. The xfinity store is here. And its simple, easy, awesome. Joe biden made it official this week announcing his candidacy for democratic president ial nomination in a video posted to social media. I believe history will look back in four years of this president and all embraces as an average moment in time. If we give trump eight yearsrs n the white house, he will forever and fundamentally alter the character of this nation. Who we are and i c cannot standy and watch that happen. Were back with dan, kim and wall street journal editorial there word member felicia. Kim, what did you make of that trump focus charlottesville focused measured . Wrong message. At least its amethyst, makes very clear that democrats including their front runner at the moment for the nomination, they will make this entire campaign in this election about trump. Not about their ideas, not about what they want to do for the country but it will be about fear mongering and the contrast. Thats going to appeal to some people in the country on the back of the Mueller Report, andt democrat and author constant fashion on the president , the big question is, what you see for . What we do . We got that, none of that from by this message. I think the message was that im the best guy to beat trump. Nevermind all this policy stuff, i take them on one on one. I think he probably can take him on but is also being described as the guy who can bring back the democratic voters who voted for trump. In place of pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. What does this message say to those voters . The guy you voted for, trump is the greatest threat to the u. S. In my lifetime. 53 Million People photos for races. Hes insulting the people hes supposed to attract to his candidacy. I dont get it. Hes a u. S. As a complete mess. We are reporting again, 3. 2 growth, he was the Vice President on a presidency for eight years presided over a stagnant economy. That is why people elected donald trump. I think theres a lot of contradiction going on r inside the biden message. Lets step back a bit. Water i Campaign Starts . What does he bring to this race . Makes him think he can win. Hes very popular again, the labor vote midwest, trump won wisconsin, michigan. He has a lot of support among black voters. Barack obama. He also brings us opposes expertise. Inexperience. The countrys a little tired of this two or three years already of this truck. They want a more steady hand and biden been around for ages. He also has a reputation being somebody who can deal with republicans one on one. Look at them and say somehow you are a creep, he says lets get a deal. Theres that as well. Right. Compromise with republican and he doesnthe vilify the oppositn like so many other democrats do. Weaknesses . He is gap prone for sure. He admits that. There could be a problem. He has to go through the democratic primary system as we have disguised here, Democratic Party now is kind of being s ru, at least in a public face by the progressive left. They think they control this party now as we saw the day after he announced. He apologized and said i dont accept his apology. Its not enough. The elect is unforgiving right now. They are going to clean on joe biden heavily and hell have to pay to the Democratic Left and that kind ofav does a bit of damage to the idea hes appealing as a centrist. He will have to declare himself sooner rather than later on medicare for all, the new deal. College for everybody. All the things that other candidates are proposing. They are going to want to say joe, where do you stand . We just trying to run above it all . He will not get away with that. He got to problems, his past record which does not go well with that progressive left. Then some of that, interaction in the criminal justice and the past etc. Hes got the future issues to deal with, too. Hes very studiously avoided that coming out on all of them. I personally think working to be the candidate is at book, im a fan of fixing obamacare, or Progressive Movement in this country but we cant go all the way there. That would be his best way to get the interest of the party, to get the trump orders back that trump was that that hes alluding to. That will be a big question, ist a big portion of the democratic primary, i would say a fifth, maybe a third, Bernie Sanders vote, they are progressive, they want joe biden to all in on the policies. Hes alienating them if he does not. You think biden is the best democratic candidate to be trum . I agree. I also think it does appeal to some of the trump orders. Not by the time third primary is over, they arere going to eat hm up. Hes not going to be as competitive because he will have to move left. Still ahead, u. S. Economy picking up steam. What First Quarter growth is. Expectations white house chief of promised has it, joins us next. Gdp is an incredible number. Member this, not only that, we have a great growth, we have great growth and also very low inflation. Our economy is doing great, number one in the world. Trump touting the America Economy with congress reporting 3. 2 growth in the first three months of the year. For exceeding expectations. Chairman of the White House Council of economic advisers, welcome kevin. I had to say, thefe economics surprised by the 3. 2 number. I was surprised, how about you . Right before the day the president asked what they thought the number would be and i said to say three. Theres so much strong data at the end of the court but dont forget, your forecast for this year was gdp growth would be 3. 2 and First Quarter was 3. 2 . So we shouldnt be surprised. The thing is, there are a lot of reasons to be optimistic that we can have a blowout your First Quarter was below the rest of the, if i hold, the 4 year, i think that be getting ahead of yourself of it. The fact is, we also had a Government Shutdown which took three tenths of the numbers Government Shutdown, theres a little bit of the Winter Weather thing going on, you could be looking at an unusual strong year. A lot of critics are looking at the details of the report think wait a a minute, not so strong. Inventories rated much more than they have to. He the experts contributed a lot more, that is extremely volatile. Youre going to get a weaker quarter here in the Second Quarter and come back down to earth. What is your response . Last year, wall street or dinner reminding people we got last year right. We were kind, just competed. The fact is, last year we grew our present below this in the First Quarter. Why should we expect the to be worse the master . It doesnt make sense. En the fact going into the Second Quarter, one of the things that are positive is that look at three tenths of a setback over whatever you think the is because theres no Government Shutdown and the other thing, incomes are going faster. Consumption wasnt week but not merely keeping up with income in the First Quarter of last jeffrey i think my inventory is a committing is the retailers expect to have blockbuster late spring and summer. In march data, you can see that beginning. I would guess right now, it would be about 3. 2 as well. The interesting thing, businessll investment group, mae a contribution but not as strongly the middle as last year. Housing is still taking away from gdp growth, not as much as it has in the last few months but in the last year but still negative. How are you disappointed . No, the thing that happens in business investment, i gave along incredibly boring lecture about this, im sure they could find it if they want to go to sleep, t