Assault of the government of the United States. Democrats accused barr of violating protestors civil rights and sending Law Enforcement to portland and other u. S. Cities as a prop to bolster the president s reelection prospects. Lets bring wall street journal columnist and deputy Editorial Page Editor dan henninger, columnist kim strassel and editorial page writer gillian. Kim, did democrats achieve what they were calling on attorney general . Kimberley they claimed that they we wanted to hear from the attorney general but they didnt let him speak. The real idea behind this is they wanted to accuse him and the Trump Administration of essentially sending storm troopers into cities and abusing protestors rights and wanted to accuse him of politicizing the Justice Department by having ordered reviews of what happened in the 2016 election in terms of the trumprussia collusion investigation and some of the mueller indictments. The problem is that the attorney general is very good in the hearings and hes on very solid legal ground and so in the end they didnt really let them open moat much and it became not a hearing but contentious lecture i would say. Paul gillian, you followed the protests on the west coast, portland, seattle and elsewhere. Was in your view the federal intervention to protect the courthouse and do some arrests justified . Gillian it was, if you look at federal law they have the federal authority to send in federal agents and to protect federal property. So you have seen attack on federal property well within legal rights here but in addition to that,i just want to point out what a failure of democratic governance this has been. This is not a few phenomena and in portland you have seen for years the violent clashes between farleft, farright activists and you have seen people getting assaults with no charges. I think this is unexpected but the level of clashes recently has been truly staggering. I mean, if you look at reports of it people shooting off fireworks, ieds its quite something else. I think this is a situation that democrats have allowed to get out of control. Paul a lot of federal officers were injured, some of them bad, i mean, including shooting lasers into the eyes of enforcement officers. Jillian yeah, i saw the statistics. You have federal officers and have eye injuries and may never recover. Federal officers who have been in the head with fireworks. Its truly gotten pretty rough there and any claim that this is peaceful protests, i just dont that thats set at this point. Paul a deal between department of Homeland Security and the governor of of oregon in which the Oregon State Police are going to the governor says be responsible and protect federal property and in return dhs will recede and leave if, in fact, that property is protected. This is sensible compromise . Daniel i guess so. I think its slightly irrelevant to the post to the protestors quite frankly, paul, we have sort of have to focus on whats going on here. Their attacks have been on law officers whether federal officers or local police and i think thats what the turn the protests have taken since may 25th, when that started it was about ending systematic racism. Its now clear that most to have protests whether in portland, other cities like new york are about eliminating the police function, defunding the police, restraining or restricting them and i dont think these protests are going to stop until they reach that goal and you have authorities, governmental authorities in portland and in oregon and in new york city more or less going along with the idea of restricting the police, if not funding them, so in oregon you now have the state police trying to protect that building and the burden will be on Governor Brown and mayor wheeler to have the backs of the state Police Rather than conceding to the protestors which protestors have become inherently violent, paul. Theres no question that this has been tactic and its on oregons authority. Paul he denounced violence in general and said violent perpetrators should be should be punished. Didnt talk anything specific about portland and seattle, though. Kimberley well, joe biden doesnt want to get on the wrong side of protestors. I mean, we are seeing this across the board in the Democratic Party and that is one of the problems here is that we need more voices of people who hold prominent positions on both sides of the aisle. We are hearing it from republicans but you need it from the democrats that are in congress. You need it from the democrats who run these cities to say, look, this needs to stop and we have a red line, we will allow Peaceful Demonstrations but anything that moves toward violence is not going to be tolerated but you saw joe biden do the same thing, you know, when asked about statutes, pulling down monuments. He said, well, you know, some of them maybe and some maybe not. The goal is not condemn what is going on by what is in essence a progressive portion of the Democratic Party. 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Once we add to antibody therapy, we might have mortality of the virus down to seasonal flu levels which would be a major breakthrough absent of the vaccine. Paul so the antibody treatment, how far is that away from actually being introducible into hospitals . Doctor we are told some time this fall. If you think about everything weve used so far, paul, theyve really been things already on the shelf, anticoagulation, steroids, even plasma, the antibody therapy may be the first of the new innovations, the discoveries that get introduced along with vaccines so we are talking about possibly this fall. Paul a lot of this seems to me that it is also Clinical Trial and error. Im not a doctor but you are. Seems like doctors all around the world treating patients have been trying new things, you know, something ventilators didnt work very well, the high mortality rate, all right, lets bring putting patients at a prone position, lets try other things. Is that what a lot of this is, is that what we are seeing is just good fashionold clinical medicine working . Doctor you know, thats a big part of it if you look at systems and doing research the u. S. They are designed for elaborate evaluations of lifestyle medications, medications. Our system is not set up for rapid study. Look at russia, they actually approved a vaccine for use in humans with much less criteria than we would require. We would consider that inadequate. China has been much further along. They are both using old platforms of piece of protein code of vaccine but we are learning a lot but when doctors posted protocols for ventilator management it went viral and we started using some of the guidance. Paul all right, lets turn to vaccines, the pfizer and moderna now trials in phase 3, thats really good news. Are you what makes you first of all, are you optimistic that these vaccines are likely to prove effective . Doctor you know, im not just optimistic im really inspired by the American Ingenuity and if you could play back tapes of scientists early in the pandemic that said at least a year and a half, right, we heard that over and over again. Here we are four months later, 27 vaccines that appear to work in human trials, two in final stages or phase 3 and that includes the Moderna Vaccine you mentioned and the pfizer vaccine. Modernas trial is going to start probably monday or tuesday. 30,000 individuals getting the vaccine. Here we are in august, early august, 30,000 thats pretty impressive, 100 million doses can be ready as soon as the fda approval happens. I dont think they will send that for 30day review process. I think its going to get reviewed in about 24 hours and to think about 100 million doses potentially available by the end of the calendar year, i think we are on track for what ive been predicting and that is april is going to be the month of mass vaccination in the United States. Paul so its still going to be that far, nothing youll likely to see in the fall on a mass bases or could we see highrisk patients getting earlier . I think this year we will see 30,000 to 10 Million People get it in various stages maybe within early approval, but the distribution and the administration is a barrier. Only 39 of americans get the flu shot every year so theres also a communication challenge that we have to undergo, but, yeah, thats promising and remember with h1n1 we had a twomonth delay just from unknown manufacturing process. Those hiccups are wellknown to occur with largescale manufacturing. Paul we dont have a vaccine, for example, whats made the difference in this case . Doctor first of all, thats a great point. Entire faith and stock went into to hiv, it turned out it was therapeutic. Looks get strong immunity. What we call ste measles shot, the reason is they are using a new platform, they are not using a piece of protein code. They are using virus as the vector, does not replicate in humans and following the strong immune response that the body develops and thats promising. We have seen both antibodies, t cells and develop immunity. Paul thank you for encouraging news. Appreciate it. When we come back the u. S. Economy shrinks in a record pace in the Second Quarter as coronavirus lockdowns take their toll. Stop struggling to clean tough messes with sprays. Try clean freak it has three times the cleaning power to dissolve kitchen grease on contact. It works great on bathtubs. And even stainless steel. Try clean freak from mr. Clean. With one protein feels like. What getting fueled with three energy packed proteins feels like. Meat cheese and nuts p3. Because 3 is better than 1 save without even leaving your house. Meat cheese and nuts just keep your phone and switch to xfinity mobile. You can get it by ordering a free sim card online. 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Allysia what do you expect when the government shut down for a couple of months and this is unsustainable. You had the government try to prop up spending over the last 2 months with transfer payments and some hasnt gotten out but longterm, if you go another couple months, more shutdowns and more unemployment and contraction in growth. Paul one of the things thats fascinating, dan, the decline in Health Care Spending in the middle of a healthcare crisis. It took 9. 5 Percentage Points of the 33 percentage point decline. I guess t because we shut down elective surgery, shut down doctor visits as we are waiting for nations to arrive and they didnt arrive as the models predicted. Daniel yeah, we shut down elective surgeries and, indeed, with the lockdowns people chose not to go to the hospital. They thought the hospital was the most dangerous place you could be because of possibility of covid infections and what we are learning now is that the deferral of a lot of these elective not only elective surgeries but people not making decision not to go to the hospital if they have a problem, they are now solid prediction that is we are going to see more heart disease, cancer and other ailments in the future and i think, paul, thats why the World Health Organization of all places said this week that modus operadi has to be struck and people reporting with heart trouble not going to the hospital and undoubtedly is cardiovascular disease, the biggest killer in the United States and whether you die of covid or a cardio you are dead. People arent getting the care that they need. Paul yeah, kim, an important point that allysia made about government spend spending, bt didnt do enough to it cant supplant the private economy. I mean, i think thats one of the big lessons here too. Kimberley its a huge take away and thats one of the interesting things looking at these numbers, is you can also delve through and see the specific policies and aspects of what government did as well were failure, so, for instance, right now weve been talking about sending yet another round of direct payments to households, okay, but we now know is that people didnt go out and use that money to buy anything, in fact, those reports show one of the biggest hits was drop in consumer spending. You look at savings rate and go back to end of last year, average of 7 , its now up in the mid20s, people are stockpiling that cash, so when you have these government payments, theres no substitute for a functioning thriving economy and thats why reopening has got to be the name of the game. Allysia, where are in the economy, housing seems to be doing fine, stock market okay despite recent decline, is the economy growing again . Well, i think Manufacturing Index has been up in the last month. You are definitely seeing increase in housing permits. Some parts of the economy are returning, again, the problem is going to be retail as well as travel, leisure and hospitality which in many states is starting to recover but i think what youre going to see geographically divided recovery where the northeast looks very slow to reopen and shut down states longer and a lot more to recover, the jobs that have been lost and youre already seeing this in the unemployment data in states like new york and new jersey versus in states like texas and florida. Paul all right, thank you all, still ahead President Trump floats an election day delay and joe biden gets to name running mate, karl rove to join us on the latest of the 2020 name when weha come t and simple. The delicious taste of glucerna back. Paul President Trump creating stir this week with the suggestion that the november third president ial election could be delayed. An idea immediately rejected by lawmakers on both sides of the aisle. The president continuing his attack on mailin voting tweeted thursday, quote, with universal mailin voting not absentee voting which is good, 2020 will be the most inaccurate and fraudulent election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the usa, delay the election until people can properly securely and safely vote. Question mark. Lets bring in wall street journal columnist karl rove, served as Senior Adviser to president george w. Bush. Before we get to joe bidens vp candidate selection, lets does