Youth and Family Center are reportedly believed to have joined or tried to join terrorist groups overseas. Over the weekend the kelly file went to minnesota and tried to speak with anyone at the al farouk mosque about the terror recruiting. Im with the kelly file, with megyn kelly. Wed like to speak to someone here about recent reports and a man named amir. Come back on monday. No, wed like to speak to someone now. They spoke to star tribune last night and theyre speaking to other media. I think they can speak to us. Come back at 10 00. 10 00 today . Yeah. Is there no one available here that can speak to us now . Sir . They were not in a talking mood. But the fbi was. We just got off the phone with the feds. We have exclusive new information on the people attending this mosque who are now believed to have signed on to the terror army known as isis. Trace gallagher reports live in a special the kelly file investigation tonight. Trace. And, megyn, the fbi says the social Media Campaign by isis is having some effect on young people, but that someone on the ground is convincing them to join the fight in syria and then giving them the money to get there. Earlier this summer somaliamerican father dropped his 19yearold son off at school in the morning. A few hours later the fbi found him at the minneapolis airport about to board a flight for syria. Another young minneapolis man is already believed to be fighting in syria. And this summer a 19yearold somaliamerican woman went missing for a few days then called her family to say she was taking care of wounded fighters in syria. A common link between young people being recruited is that many attended the al farouk youth center and had contact with 31yearold amir, an alleged former member of al qaeda accused of spreading radical islamic ideology. In june after the director got a tip from a young member about his teachings, he then got a no trespass order against him. And within days amir sold his home and left the area. His whereabouts are still unknown. The fbi who held him in kenya for nearly four months wont comment about his involvement, but hes now issued a statement through the aclu saying, quoting here, i am saddened by the mosque directors accusations which are baseless. I have been trying to live my life normally like any other citizen, but it is very difficult when people may see me as suspicious because of the governments past allegations and its refusal to make amends for treating me so badly. As you saw earlier those involved in the mosque are not happy about speaking with the kelly file. But those who live near the mosque are quite concerned. Listen. I feel threatened by it. To be honest with you. Make sure i lock my doors and windows. Otherwise were pretty casual lifestyle in the twin cities. But Something Like that goes around and makes you think. The somaliamerican community in the twin cities has long had a strained r authorities there. But now some in that community are urging families to speak publicly to stop more of their children from being recruited. Megyn. Trace, thank you. One man in this bloomington, minnesota, community has been warning about this kind of terror recruitment for years. He knew one of the men recruited by isis who just died in iraq fighting for the terror group. Omar jamal is a minnesota activist and director of the american friends of somalia. Omar, thank you very much for coming to new york and being with us live tonight. A federal grand jury is now looking into who is recruiting these young people. And they seem to be centering on this al farooq mosque. How concerned should we be about this place . I think its a very serious issue and everybody should be concerned about it. Not to mention that this has been going on for the last ten to 15 years. The feds havent been able to bring this to an end by going after whos doing this, whos the person whos recruiting this. Whos in the mosque recruiting Young Americans to dpo fight. And the thing is whoevers doing this remains to be the same only the gates are changing. Ten years ago there are brand new kids, now there are new groups. Five years from now the guy at the top stays the same. So who is this guy whos doing this . The mosque on friday purported to be a hero in all of this saying this guy, we found him suspicious, we heard talk of radical islamic jihadist ideology and we called the authorities and got a no trespass order against him. Correct. So are we to believe that they are on the side of the angels or not . I will hold my opinion, i think. I will wait until the first facts of this investigation come into light. Because i dont think that he was there. He was playing basketball. We dont know who he is. The question we have right now was he trespass before or after parents spoke out about the situation . When did the trespassing take place . In other words on to the mosque property. Of the mosque property. Thats the allegation our viewers should know the mosque only turned him in and got the no trespass order because they believed the feds were zeroing in on him, there was a grand jury Investigation Underway and they wanted to look clean ech though some believe they were not. Exactly. And this is where well see this investigation, i dont want the community to come out and do something to jeopardize this proce process. How many potential recruits do you think were looking at here . How Many Americans would possibly consider going to fight for isis . We talk about since 2007 until now close if more than 40 male and female have gone back al shabaab which is an al qaeda affiliate. Or isis. What is it about this area that keeps producing these isis sympathizers . Sheer concentration of the youth over there. And this is the ideology of war, isis and al shabaab somehow managed to bring up an image that they are the ones righting wrongs, that it will gain respect and it is working for them. Somehow their Propaganda Machine is very effective here. We dont have a counter strategy to fight against their Propaganda Machine. And i know you believe that the group cair is part of the problem. Yes, cair by their tactics and political correct language are also confusing the young kids. They call me simply because i disagree with them. They do that to everybody. Dont worry, omar, youre not alone in that. Thank you very much for being with us tonight. Joining us now seth jones e commander for special Operations Forces including afghanistan and iraq. He works at the Defense Policy Center at the rand corporation. Seth, good to seau tonight. So it appears we have the mosque in the heart of minnesota that is now being investigated by a federal grand jury. And the question tonight is what if anything could be done to stop recruitment efforts at such a place if indeed they are underway . Well, megyn, the interesting thing about mosques in the United States including this particular one is they are not now the only place where individuals are radicalizing. In fact, what were seeing in a number of places including minneapolis is that people are actually recruiting outside of the mosques. The mosques in some cases are too are not radical enough. I mean, weve seen that a little bit with the case where he was asked to stay off the grounds. But again theres a question about whether the mosque did that because it genuinely wanted to stop this alleged talk of radical jihad or because it knew it was under investigation. Thats true. Vast majority of jihadists in the United States, those that have radicalized, have had serious concerns about mosques in general. We saw this even with the boston bombings in 2013. They left the mosque area and were radicalizing outside of the mosque for two reasons. One is most mosques are considered too liberal. And second of all, theres a recognition that mosques in general are likely penetrated by Law Enforcement agencies. Let me ask you about this it was extraordinary to receive a statement from him through the aclu. So he was in somalia, kenya, claims he was interrogated by the u. S. Government repeatedly up to 30 times suspected of participating in jihad or at least sympathetic to the cause. And then the aclu sued on his behalf once he got back to the United States saying you had no business doing that to him. He was an american citizen. You never brought charges. And so he we reached out to him tonight. And he basically expresses his sadness saying these are just accusations. Theyre baseless. Ive been trying to live my life like any other citizen, but that is very difficult when people may see me as suspicious because of the governments past allegations and its refusal to make amends for mistreating me so badly. Is this man at the heart of the recruiting drive, is this perhaps a double agent as some have alleged . What are we to believe . Well first, its worth pointing out that a federal Court Dismissed the aclu case earlier this year. And thats worth putting on the table. Second, i think its also worth noting that in minneapolis within the Somali Community there has been an effort under way over the last few years to get away from individuals being the primary source of young jihadists to fight for either somalia or more recently to go fight with isis. And theres been a shift towards the radicalization online. And my understanding in talking to multiple sources in minneapolis today is the online jihadist forums that youtube, facebook, twitter, have become critical sources. So there does appear to be a movement away in minneapolis of individuals like amir towards the online radicalization. Right. So dangerous. Seth, thank you. Thank you. In in a moments judge napolitano will have a much more on exactly what the aclu is doing in this matter. And later, our exclusive interview with the man who believes america got what it deserved on 9 11. A man who has refused to speak to fox news for years. And a man who is still helping mold the thinking of students across this country. Dont miss this. How could you draw a moral equivalence between 3,000 dead americans and a murderous nazi like adolf. Y to plus our Accounting Firms mobile plan. And minus our expenses. Perfect timing. Were offering our bestever pricing on mobile plans for business. Run the numbers on that. 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With 28 highway miles per gallon, 420 poundfeet of torque. Guts. Glory. Ram. Breaking tonight, we have learned of a federal grand jury investigation now into a mosque in the suburbs of minneapolis. And accusations that members there are being recruited, actively recruited, for the terror group isis. At the center of all of this is amir meshal, hes been on the fbis radar for years in a case that would wind up involving the aclu. Joining me now fox newss senior judicial analyst. Talk about the grand jury, the fbi confirming that the number of overseas travelers, potential travelers and those that facilitated traveled to join the jihad is significant and what is the federal grand jury likely doing . Well, the federal grand jury is receiving evidence via a federal prosecutor and assistant u. S. Attorney who in turn is getting evidence from the fbi. Im suggesting this is whats happening. In fact, these grand juries meet in secret. And this would be small pieces of a big puzzle about who is recruiting whom. How does the fbi get its information . Are they allowed to infiltrate a mosque . Well, the fbi has to have an open case. And in order to have an open case it needs what the courts call arctic kubl suspicion. They can suggest in words as to why a particular human being may be involved with particular criminal activity. It cant be an anonymous tip. It can be something they can state and is rational. Reportedly not long ago there was an 18yearold trying to get on a plane bound for syria from this mosque. The fbi stopped him and refused to let him leave, encouraged him to go back home to his family in other words. He reportedly pointed the finger at amir meshal who now he, the 18yearold through his lawyer, is suggesting may be a double agent, perhaps suggesting meshal tipped off the fbi to this travel. Well, you know, the fbi uses double agents. The fbi sometimes in return for not prosecuting someone who has committed crimes that the fbi can prove will use that person as a source of information. But the fbi suggests to you as much as it wants to stop youth from going over there and killing people and perhaps coming back here and killing people, it wants to find the root, the source, the cause, the organizer. They want to know who the recruiters are. The recruiters are their target. Precisely. Because the fbi has a lot of tools to stop these kids. They can engage in a sting, whether you think a sting is moral or not where they pretend to be bad guys let me argue. If they get the guy for recruiting, they get a name, a couple of names at this mosque, which didnt want to speak on camera and we asked them repeatedly it wasnt just in that moment we asked them repeatedly to come on, they refused. What could the person be charged with . How could they be stopped . And how does that case get proven . Okay. The crime is providing material assistance to a terrorist organization. And that could be anything short of mere words. So if youre a cheerleader as reprehensible as this sounds, if youre a cheerleader, i hate america and i want isis to win, you can say that. But if you act upon it, if you combine behavior that further buying a plane ticket for example. Correct. Most 18yearolds cant afford a plane ticket to syria on their own. A plane ticket, a map, encouragement beyond mere expression of political activity. Then you are wittingly or unwittingly involved in this conspiracy. This is 20 years in a federal prison for providing material assistance to a terror organization. The aclu is trying to protect the rights of these individuals, most of whom are american and because were on u. S. Soil and they are american citizens, they have the same rights you or i have. Quick final word. Sometimes the aclu actually keeps the fbi honest. Im glad the aclu is there. As long as politics is not involved. As long as the constitution is involved, thats the way the system should work. Judge, good to see you. Good to see you. When asked months ago about this terror group isis, president obama described them as junior varsity. Now the president is denying. Plus, this man spent decades teaching at a major American University until america heard Ward Churchill suggesting the victims on 9 11 got what they deserved. But Ward Churchill has rarely been challenged over his beliefs until tonight. You thought the dead americans were like the nazis, however you had nothing but praise for the 9 11 hijackers. You called them courageous and even gal yent. Gal yent . Al qaeda . Its monday. A brand new start. Your chance to rise and shine. With centurylink as your trusted technology partner, you can do just that. With our visionary cloud infrastructure, Global Broadband network and Custom Communications solutions, your business is more reliable secure agile. 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That was just eight months ago. By august our own defense secretary described isis this way. Isil is a sophisticated and wellfunded as any group that we have seen. Theyre beyond just a terrorist group. We must prepare for everything. Under fire for either misstating the threat or failing to appreciate it earlier, the white house spokesman denied the facts claiming president obama was not talking about isis when he used that term jayvee. A dodge the Washington Post gave four pinocchios. And now president obama doubled down on the falsehood. I wasnt specifically referring to isil. I said regionally there are a whole series of organizations that were focused primarily locally, werent focused on the homeland. Once again president obama accused of misleading. Came in response to a question from a reporter about the group that just took over fallujah. That was isis and the president knew it. Politifact reprints the entire exchange concluding that its clear the president was talking about isis. They rated his denial yesterday false. The reasons for the president s statements are anybodys guess, however the growth of isis arguably undercuts an important claim from this president who ran for reelection saying al qaeda was on the run. But isis is an al qaeda offshoot. Its earlier name was al qaeda in iraq. Moreover its progress was made possible in part by the american troops total withdraw, something the presid