Infrastructure. General dempsey and i have both approved and spent considerable time reviewing and adapting the centcom plan. Then we heard broadcast reports earlier tonight that that order could come at any time. Joining me now, general jack keane who is chairman of the institute for the study of war, former vice chief of staff of the army and fox news military analyst and with us now by phone. General, let me ask you whether the timing would make sense. Because you have been you have been critical of the president for not acting on the day he was announcing that he was going to bomb syria. You questioned on this program last week why we wouldnt be doing it as he was announcing it. Well, im delighted were finally going to get started to take place in the next day or so. Look, we know this is an imperative. The fact of the matter is the support infrastructure for isis, the vast majority of everything that they have is in syria. So what are we talking about . Staging bases for troops and equipment. Were talking about training areas for all these fighters that have been flown in to syria that all of us have been reporting on. Their command and control is there. And then also their very large road network, which is a Logistic Network which they use to pass equipment back and forth from iraq and syria. And the fact of the matter is this is all exposed. Now, listen, we know for a fact that theyve been trying to do everything they can to protect and conceal some of this. At the end of the day theyre not going to be able to protect and conceal all of it. So the sooner we get started, the better. And i applaud the fact were eventually going to get this underway in the not too distant future, maybe hours or a day or two. How could they possibly still be exposed . One thinks of what we saw in palestine with the palestinians so effectively hiding so much of their command and control in the midst of civilian strongholds. Is it not going to be the case in syria . Well, you have staging bases for troops and we have a sense of where that is. Troops have to train. We likely know where they stay. Equipment storage areas, they have a lot of trucks, tanks. They have a lot of obviously kind of suv type vehicles that theyre using in those staging bases. They can hide some of it, but they just cant hide all of it. And the other thing is, megyn, look, no one has this kind of Technology Although it is emerging with the west and chinese. We can put a bomb on a target with a 98 chance of hitting that target within 30 meters of the designated point. That is absolutely phenomenal technology. And thats how we can hit a target and not do damage to other things that are in the vicinity. We can make mistakes with that, as weve done in the past. But those are unintentional mistakes. And theyre very slight compared to the number of air strikes that we deliver. So weve been shooting 170something air strikes into iraq since the president authorized that to be done. And thats certainly had some impact. Once we start this, i think were going to have significantly greater impact on isis. As i told you once before, megyn, i believe that al baghda baghdadis planned assumption was that the United States would not conduct air strikes into syria given the fact we did not do it over the chemical red line. Uhhuh. And he saw us back away. And i think he put a lot of his eggs in one basket here so to speak in syria. And that assumption is false and the president deserves credit for finally getting after this. General, what kind of response could we likely expect . Because weve heard so many reports about isis getting its hands on our military technology that we gave to the iraqi army. So, you know, if we begin a bombing campaign, whether its within hours, within the evening or within a day, what kind of response are we likely to get from isis now on the ground with respect to our own equipment . Well, the fact of the matter is when they took various towns and cities and the iraqis collapsed, obviously they took that equipment. But theyre challenged as well, megyn. Some of this equipment, like a tank, is a pretty sophisticated piece of technology. Its got multiple computers on it. Its got very advanced Communications Systems on it. This takes true specialized technicians to take care of this equipment. And could they hire that . Yes, they could. Do they have any of that available to them now . Doubtful. So i dont think the impact of some of the equipment that theyve taken other than vehicles which everyone knows is going to be felt that much. The humvees that they took from the iraqis, that will provide them with significant protection. And some of those have machine guns on them certainly. Go ahead, finish your point. No, go ahead. I was going to ask whether you would anticipate whether weve heard obviously theres been a lot of debate about whether it will just be air strikes and for now we are told thats what the president has settled on. Is that going to be a Navy Operation . An air force operation . What would you assume . Oh, i think that will be a little bit of all the above. We tremendous capability, megyn. We can fly b2 bombers from the United States to hit a target in the middle east. And we have done that routinely. They are stealth bombers. And they penetrate air defense systems, the systems dont know were there and they use precision and fly them from europe as well. Just think about that. We have flown b2 bombers in attack missions in the war in iraq and afghanistan and we returned those to home station after completing the mission. Obviously they rotate crews in order to do Something Like that. But the fact of the matter is we have an enormous capability, there are bases in the region that i would imagine that we have flown some priors in to. And as you know weve been report k for weeks, we have an Aircraft Carrier in the region as well. So this is air force and nav nao be sure. And significant capability. I understand. I just hope, megyn, my concern here is that we truly go all out. That we do not limit the air power capability that the United States has. Uhhuh. That we go after these targets with the full measure of that capability. General, thank you. Youre welcome. Were going to stand the general by in the event of breaking news. And we will get back to him as the news warrants. I want to bring in buck sexton, former cia officer in iraq and National Security editor for theblaze. Com. Buck, the intelligence that will have to go into mapping out what the areas are and where we believe command and control is is significant. Yes. Theyve been trying to do this now for at least over a month based upon what have been reported. Theyve been running surveillance flights figuring out what they would hit if decide ds to fly air strikes into syria. One consideration here is this is going to effect a reality on the ground in syria in ways we cant necessarily anticipate. This will strengthen assads hand for example. Whether we want it to or not, the fact of the matter is the isis groups and others around it are fighting against assad sochlt if we hit them, we hit them hard as we should, its going to put assad in a stronger position. He may not want to fwo to the bargaining table for example because isis is getting pounded from the sky on both fronts. Its a two front war as we know. Isis seizing the point is theres no one to root for. Bombing our enemy also emboldens another enemy. But clearly theres been a calculated decision that this is worth it. Even strengthening assads hand, Bashar Al Assad who has been torturing families, murdering children, lining them up weve been reporting on this for two years, lining up families and murdering the parents in front of the children and vicerer sa, for kicks. Thats how he operates. Thats who were going to ultimately help because we think hes the lesser of two evils. What kind of world is that . As you heard from former secretary of defense panetta, were too late on the issue of trying to help the nonextremist op inside of syria. Theyre the weakest of the three major factions. You have assad, isis and what we call moderates, depends on how you want to define that. What you see, megyn, if we get involved at this late juncture, there are going to be unanticipated consequences. Were going to be in a situation where we hit things we dont mean to hit and messier than this administration ever thought they would. Theyve delayed and delay and had now have to face up to the reality of threat we face. Buck, thank you. Stand you by as well. We are watching the wires. We are in contact with the pentagon. And we are getting reporting from overseas. If anything happens, we will have the moment the news the moment it breaks. Also tonight, we have heard a shocking new admission today from the administration about dozens of u. S. Citizens who went to fight for terrorists in iraq and are now back in the United States. We will investigate that just ahead. Also up next, we will look at new evidence that we may have missed our best chance to beat back this terror group long before we got to this point tonight. Dont go away. [ gunfire ] vo you are a business pro. Solver of the slice. Teacher of the unteachable. You lower handicaps. And raise hopes. And you. Rent from national. Because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. And go. 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I think that this strategy has many of the right elements to it. I dont think it goes far enough. I still would not take any element of americas power off the table. The other thing thats going to happen, megyn, isis will force our hand. Im absolutely convinced of it. We will put guard air controllers and advisors down there because we will struggle. We will put direct action teams to go kill isis because the weak hand in iraq is going to struggle. And we will have eventually combat ground brigades to deal with the potential failure. Because if we dont, were going to asdlose. Pete hegs het, war veteran and ceo of concerned veterans for america. That is chilling to hear from bob gates to general jack keane, former vice chief of staff for the army say if we dont do what the president has already ruled out were going to lose. It is a revolt of the generals. I mean, as a captain im happy to see my highest leaders both in and outside of government telling it like it is. Have you ever seen this before . Never seen anything like this. These are folks inside the pentagon talking to their former colleagues who are now outside the pentagon and able to speak out more freely in the media trying to get their word out saying if you want an analysis of what it takes to destroy isis, it has to factor in american boots on the ground or at least the threat thereof in order to be successful. And the president said last weekend he was very clear he said not only are we not putting boots on the ground, we will not we will not there will not be a combat mission. Period. He does sound even though the white house earlier tried to couch it, like he is ruling it out on a go forward basis as well. Which calls into question every other single portion of the mission. One of the generals mentioned there how do you recruit other allies when you yourself are not willing to lead . And you happen to be america. Yes. Who always leads. The only country. I think the president needs to pick up the phone and call george h. W. Bush and figure out what it takes to gather a coalition. It was its core and brought in other countries. This idea were going to get saudi arabia or turkey or egypt to commit Ground Troops without america leading is a fantasy. Saying saudi arabias training troops now. He also called it kurdistan force. No, its the peshmerga, theyve been underfunded for a decade. Its not clear that the Free Syrian Army is capable of anything in the near term. The worst thing that could happen to the president politically because many have suggested thats how hes running these decisions, looking at polling and making decisions, would be to send a bunch of american troops over there, risk their lives and then lose. Get iiv in some lengthy conflict in which it became clear we were losing. And then as jack keane says hes left with no choice. You go in hard, you go in fast, you go in to win. Problem is we dont have general conway combat conway is what they called him. Two years he spent in iraq. He knows how to fight wars. General valley jarrett is making the calls. Think about it. The pentagon knows that. That is disturbing to many people. It is. With all due respect to ms. Jarrett, shes not the one who should be making these calls. How does it come about that the president is on this different a page from his p6jgenerals, pete . With the generals behind the scenes be urging the president to listen to them . Or do they not just question the chain of command . Theyre always presenting a menu of plans to the president. High risk, low risk, opting for the no boots on the ground option. I know for a fact that some of those options have contained Ground Troops. Hes made that decision that were not going to go there. I think generals are going to have a pretty critical its one thing to speak out or make a suggestion at a hearing. What about putting men and women in harms way with a strategy you know cant work . At what point do you get someone slapping their four stars on the table and say i wont do it anymore. Thats how youre supposed to do it, right . If you object youre not supposed to come out and speak publicly say i refuse to send my troops because i think were going to fail, youre supposed to resign. Maybe theyll wake up tomorrow and decide theyre going to fight the war properly based on the threat on the ground. But to see a Statement Like that would be powerful. Right now im grateful these men, these leaders, combat leaders are at least telling it like it is. Theyre making an analytical point. You cant win without boots. A whole other question whether we ought to. Theyre getting a message out in a way ive never seen before. Good to see you. Thanks, megyn. While military officials are arguing you have to fight the battle to win, our next guest says we shouldnt be fighting this at all. 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Joining me now alan combs, host of the alan combs show on fox news radio. Is it something we should not be involved with . We are going were going into syria obviously. Who do you align with . You have al nusra, the Free Syrian Army. Thats the one we chose. Thats the one we chose. Are we going to be confined to just helping them with all those other forces there . And what always happens is our weapons wind up in the wrong hands. Just pointed out for those refugees being chased by isis into turkey. And u. S. Arms, which went to iraq originally, are now w