Fall, theres no governing body for this forum. And nbc is free to handle it any way they want. Lieutenant general Michael Flynn served as the director of the Defense Intelligence agency. He is the author of the best selling field of fight, how we can win the global war against rad call islam and its allies. General flynn will be with zrump when he receives his Second Intelligence briefing tomorrow. Youve been advising the candidate on National Security issues. All right. General, theres a lot going on. A lot going on. A briefing is very important tomorrow obviously. We talked after you had just come out of that first briefing and you felt that not only did mr. Trump get all the information he needed, you felt like he was ready to be the commanderinchief. Of course you know there are a lot of critics who say he is going against someone who has been a secretary of state, a senator, has been exposed to this kind of information, and has worked with countries around the world. Why is he the better bet . Yeah. I would just say just the ability to understand complex issues, to soimplify complex things going on around the world. Donald trump has been paying attention to what has been going on around the world for a long, long time. I will tell you over the course of this year, it has gotten into more and more detail as hes gotten closer to this point. So i think that what i saw in the sort of the q a in that particular intelligence briefing that he received, it was a real ive seen thousands of those, shannon. I mean i was very comfortable with the conversation and the level of discourse, and frankly as i said at that time, that what was presented to him was in stark contrast to the policy decisions that are coming out of this white house. So tomorrow will be interesting, and theres a set of topics that weve asked for. So well see how that goes. Okay. Now, you were somebody obviously who has served our country. I and millions around this country have got Great Respect for you. Thank you. But when we hear donald trump say things like, i understand isis better than the generals do or i know more about isis than the generals do, he doesnt know more than you. Yeah. I mean, again, put it in the context of when it was. So we were talking about, i think, almost a year later from that particular comment. We are that you raised this thing that may or may not happen. I dont know what the final result is going to be on this commanderinchief Forum Next Week or who is supporting Hillary Clinton versus who is supporting donald trump. I think that what we will see is well see an individual in donald trump who is ready to serve today as the commanderinchief. I have no no problems with donald trump stepping up and understanding, again, the complexities. And i describe them, shannon, as the perils that the next president is going to face because the mess that has been left on the world stage in places like the south china sea, north korea, the Eastern European border of ukraine where russia is going through a massive, massive exercise right now, and just the utter disaster in the middle east and parts of north africa. I mean thats what the next president is being left by the current this current administration, and that includes Hillary Clinton spending four years laying this thing on the world stage as a secretary of state. So its a mess. Who do you think is taking the bigger gamble by showing up at this Event Next Week . They wont be on stage together, but theyre both going to face tough questions. There will shabe veterans and or military leaders asking questions. Is it a bigger gamble for him or her . I think its a much bigger gamble for her because shes not been out all that much. So, you know, i mean im sure shell be prepared like everybody says she prepares very well. I think what youve seen and heard from donald trump over a year and his constant talking about the issues and talking about the world as it is today, the reality that we face and some of the threats that we face, i think actually he will be in fact i know hes going to be much better prepared personally for donald trump to be able to address the issues that hes going to be asked about. All right, general. Thank you always for your service. Thank you. To this country. Congrats on the book. Wed love to hear from you after the briefing tomorrow. Absolutely. As we mentioned, matt lauer is going to be moderating next weeks commanderinchief forum. When that news broeblg, a number of conservative remember sites immediately starts questioning lauers role. Trace gallagher has that part of the story. Reporter during the one hour commanderinchief forum, donald trump and Hillary Clinton as you say wont be on stage together, but instead will appear backtoback. And today show host matt lauer will moderate. Thats sparking conflict of interest concerns because lauer once appeared on the Clinton Global Initiative website as a notable member. The page has since been taken down, and nbc says it never should have been up in the first place, saying, quoting, matt lauer was not and is not a Clinton Global Initiative member. It should also be noted that fox business anchor maria part low mow was listed as a cgi member and she too denies it. But conservative critics have been pointing to media bias in this campaign ever since George Stephanopoulos interviewed Hillary Clinton without disclosing that he had donated large sums of money to the Clinton Foundation. Abc later apologized, and the gop blocked stephanopoulos from moderating a republican president ial primary debate. Now with the first of three president ial debates scheduled for september 26th, donald trump has said he wont appear if the moderators arent fair. The president ial debate commission, which picks the moderators, says the campaigns really dont get a say, but clearly the commission realizes what a delicate dance this is. Consider that normally the commission announces moderators in midaugust, and now it wont be until at least next week. For the record, a Morning Consult poll among registered voters has Anderson Cooper and megyn kelly topping the list of preferred moderators. President ial debates normally draw between 50,000,070 million viewers. Experts say the september 26th debate could draw 100 million. Shannon. She gets my vote. Trace, thank you. Joining us now, howie kurtz, host of media buzz on fox news. Mow elleithee. He served as traveling press secretary on Hillary Clintons 2008 campaign. And guy benson, townhall. Com Political Editor and a Fox News Contributor. Welcome all of you. Hi, shannon. All right, mo, ill start with you because we just had general flynn on talking about this commanderinchief thing coming up. In his opinion, its a bigger risk for Hillary Clinton because shes been part of this administration, which is leaving behind a lot of Foreign Policy stuff to deal with. Your take. Its interesting. Were talking about veterans and the military, and historically if you look in politics, republicans tend to do very well with that vote, with the military vote, with the veteran vote. There seems to be something baked into peoples psyche, into voters psyche that if you have an r next to your name, you might be better on defense or veterans issues. If you have a d next to your name, maybe on some other issues. I think that calculus is scrambling a little bit in this election cycle in part because of some of the things that donald trump has said in done. The fact that he went to rhetorical war with a gold star family and said that he gets his military advice from the shows has really kind of put him in a more tenuous position with a lot of voters who are concerned about National Security and veterans issues, much more so than any republican nominee in recent history. Yeah, and today, gosh, he picked up two fourstar generals endorsements. That is something weve seen, although Lieutenant GeneralMichael Flynn said here that seize seen mr. Trump evolve and get up to speed on these issues. He is convinced hes ready to be commanderinchief. But some of those generals out there arent, guy. Yeah, and so each person is going to come out and give their various endorsements, and i think general flynn made the case for donald trump. And i dont necessarily agree that this is a bigger risk or gamble for either of them. I think if you want to be president , if you want to be commanderinchief, you need to be able to go through the gauntlet and answer these types of questions, which brings me to the moderator of this and sort of the controversy over matt lauer. It actually doesnt really bother me that much because i think that at the end of the day, each journalist should be judged on his or her merits and their performance. So whereas George Stephanopoulos, i think, is problematic on a few levels, matt lauer has the opportunity to show up and do a good job. The key is transparency and disclosure. If theres been any connection whatsoever with the Clinton Foundation or Clinton Global Initiative, that should be out in the open for viewers to note ahead of time. That is crucial. All right. Howie, you are watching this all. You know the players involved. You know matt lauer, and weve seen him interview mr. Trump before. Certainly, you know, Hillary Clinton and interest with the Clinton Foundation now being questioned about his past. Enlighten us a little bit on that. First of all, i think matt lauer has a pretty good track record of being tough on all political guests. Donald trump, whos complained to me about his past conflicts with cnn, msnbc, fox, new york times, politico, washington post, et cetera, has never said a word about being unhappy with any of matt lauers interviews. I think the whole Clinton Foundation as far as the risk involved, the Playing Field and the subject might seem to favor a former secretary of state ex september for this. Donald trump has done about 5,000 interviews this year. Hes pretty well honed his skills at dealing with and deflecting these kinds of questions. If anything, Hillary Clinton, who hasnt held a News Conference all year and has given far few interviews might be a little rusty. Yeah. About that, mo, this is sort of a predebate debate. Its not sanctioned. We dont know exactly how theyre going to handle it. Its not going to be handled the same way as at official president ial debates. Is it a bit of a warmup for mrs. Clinton . Its been 271 days. The last time she held a press conference was before even a single primary vote had been cast. Thats a long time. Yeah, but this isnt this isnt a press conference, right . This is more youre right. We dont know what the structure is going to be. She has done shes done other oneonone interviews both at the National Level and the local level. But having said that, look, you know, i think howie is right, that donald trump has a lot of experience. He does you know, hell talk to anyone that will talk to him sometimes, it feels like. But at the same time, you know, these are complex issues. You know, i think back to what general flynn said a few minutes ago, that donald trump has the ability to simplify complex issues. Some issues arent simple. Some of these complex International Global issues that the commanderinchief has to deal with arent simple, and Hillary Clinton is very well versed in these. So i think the subject matter is going to provide a pretty stark contrast for voters to be able to choose between. All right. Guy, quick final word to you. I think theres an expectations game at play here thats very important, and it goes back to what we saw with the mexico trip. Expectations for trump are so low, when he exceeds them, he benefits. Because of Hillary Clintons pedigree and resume, her expectations, particularly on these issues, will be sky high. People were worried about that mexico trip for him yesterday. Pretty strong praise across the board, at least on the first half of the day. That trip to mexico. Well see how the commanderinchief forum plays out. Gentlemen, thank you very much. Thank you. 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Our message to the world will be this. You cannot obtain legal status or become a citizen of the United States by illegally entering our country. Cant do it. While trumps speech sounded good to a lot of his supporters, the language with an issue with some of trumps own team. They were report. I think there may have been one person that was on one of the committees that may not be we dont know, reince, that at least three members of this hispanic Outreach Advisory Council have told us that theyve stepped down. Did his campaign consult with your office of hispanic outreach ahead of the speech . Listen, they communicate all the time. I mean im not im not tracking, wolf, every communication and email that comes in and out of the building, but we have a good relationship. Its a solid rain between both our hispanic engagement operation and donald trump. Joining me now, two men potentially rethinking their trump support, a former member of Trumps National hispanic advisory council, and alfonso aguilar, executive director of the american principle projects latino partnership. Thank you for coming on. Jacob, it sounds like you have made your decision. What was it that changed your mind, and will you be able to support mr. Trump in any way . Well, let me say its a tough decision because i realize that not supporting donald trump means that its more likely that hillary wins, right . And hillary is unacceptable. Count me as a never hillary person. But i cant be part of his hispanic advisory committee, and i cant support him anymore. Let me ask you this, did you get a different sense of him because i know a couple of weeks ago there was a meeting. You all were a part of that. There were trickles after that saying, hey, listen, we really do think hes softened up. We think theres a good way forward here. There were some who took that the next step and says hes caving in on things like amnesty and that kind of thing. But was there such a difference in what you heard in that private meet zing and what you heard last night . Is that what did it for you . Absolutely. When we met with him on the 20th of august, he was prepared. He was compassionate. He was realistic.