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FOXNEWSW The Kelly File December 10, 2016

Chris stirewalt about the political implications of all of this. Well be joined by governor Mike Huckabee. But we begin with kevin cork reporting from washington. Good evening. A full review, thats what president obama is ordering his intelligence agencies to conduct into the hacking activity in the 2016 election. Now this review comes after the administration has already accused russia of conducting many of the hacks that surfaced during the runup to the election. It did deny there was any impact on the actual voting outcome. But the deposit any commissioner said its time to take stock of the u. S. Cyber defense capabilities and reduce future threats. Its to capture Lessons Learned from that and to report to a range of stakeholders to include the congress. Were committed to ensuring the integrity of our election and this report will dig into this pattern of malicious cyber activity tied to our elections. Schultz says the president expects the report to be on his dec desk before he leaves office in january. This review is happening after the democrats lost in the general election instead of say victories in 2008 and 2012 and thats led some to accuse the administration of partisanship. But experts say thats highly unlikely. Whats unusual is the cyber feature, the ability to hack emails, dump large amounts of documents. Thats having an outside influence so we want to make sure were addressing that appropriately. Specificially saying the person who stands to benefit from this kind of review is donald trump himself, not the president. Back to you. Should we be surprised by all of this . Chris stirewalt is our fox news digital editor. So chris did russia try to disrupt american elections . Thats the hotly contested debate right now. Well, of course. Of course they did. Why is everybody acting so surprised that russia which hates the west and nato, which wants to disrupt the west and nato tried to disrupt our elections. Theyve been doing it since the end of world war ii and except for a tenyear hiatus, this has been the m. O. For the kremlin whether they be soviets or under the putin regime. To undermine elections and as we can say from the partisan responses today, its working. With the attempt to disrupt american elections by favoring one candidate over another . Like favoring Hillary Clinton over donald trump or donald trump over Hillary Clinton . Is it partisan . Washington post reporting tonight and what would seem to be quite apparent was that trump was the preferred candidate for the russians and their hackers. But thats not really the point. Yes, in the past theyve preferred left candidates. Maybe now they prefer right candidates. Theyre looking for somebody who is more sympathetic to the position of the kremlin. And trump has made so secret of the fact that he wants to do business with putin and do business there. So im sure they preferred him. But the point is to undermine the confidence, ultimate point is under mine confidence in the system. To make americans and people across the west in nato countries doubt the system and despise one another. And if you can do that by undermining the system by which we choose our dually elected officials in washington, if you can undermine confidence in that, is the news fake, u if yo can sew that out there, you can hurt america. Theyre going to do the deep dive on the cyberattacks. Were supposed to see that its on the president s desk. We dont know if were going to get a good look at it or some of it. What is the ultimate outcome . Were going to talk to somebody who says thats evidence of this hack. Youre saying its obvious that they would want to do this but is there any hard evidence . Well, either we believe our Security Apparatus or we dont. If were at the point now that we say our Intelligence Community is lying to us, then were way over niagra. Then we have to accept that on its face. But remember, the problem here is again partisan ranker. Republicans dont want to accept the findings because it makes their guy look bad. Democrats are clinging to it like life itself because it gives them an excuse why a heavily favored candidate went down in a narrow election. Its better to blame it on the russians than it is to blame it on their candidate wasnt very good at running for president. Joining us now, former governor Mike Huckabee and julie roginsky. Governor huckabee, i want to get in there about what donald trump had to say about this. He said i dont believe they interfer interfered. Every time i do something they say russia interfered. It could be russia, could be china, could be some guy in his home in new jersey. Lets assume that russia did hack into it. It says less about our lack of cyber defenses than it does that russia would try to hack into every american system it can. Do you think for a minute if they can get into Donald Trumps Campaign Emails that they wouldnt have done it . Of course they would have. I agree with chris about. With all due respect, this notion that russia wanted donald trump to win is nonsense. The last person they want in the oval office is donald trump. For eight years theyve done whatever they wanted to. They wanted to invade crimea, they did it. They want to fly flighter jets 30 feet over the heads of an american destroyer in international waters, they did it. I dont think theyre going to do that kind of stuff under donald trump because hes bringing in a new approach that america isnt going to sit back and take it in the teeth. Clinton supporters are adamant about blaming russia for Hillary Clintons loss chbl. The only thing im blaming russia for is it seems that senator mccain, senator graham, the chairman of the House Homeland Security committee, the chairman of the house intelligence committee, both republicans, all agree that russia most likely hacked. And quite honestly if they did, we need a National Intelligence estimate and part of it needs to be declassified so that American People have some access to this information. This should not be taken as the word of our leaders. Let me Say Something quickly about what governor huckabee said. When you have a president elect who on the campaign trail was not aware that the russians has invaded crimea, said publicly that he might be okay with crimea being part of russia and not ukraine, saying he wants to weaken nato, saying Bashar Al Assad is somebody we can do business with, that strikes me as somebody that Vladimir Putin is comfortable with. Julie, again, thats nonsense. Heres why. What donald trump is talking about with nato is making it so that the United States isnt picking up the entire check for the meal when everybody else had the buffet and we had the salad. I dont think donald trump is ready to destroy nato but nato hasnt had an effective stance against stopping the aggressive moves of russia over the past few years. As far as the hacks, let me make one point very clear. It seems that democrats are more embarrassed that the russians hacked the system which is a major concern and i do think that thats a bipartisan concern, but why arent they just as worried about what those hacks revealed, that the democrats but they are, governor huckabee. Congressional republicans are calling for this too. They want to learn from it and find out why it happened and how it happened. Sure. But donald trump says he doesnt. I mean is that setting up for a clash within the Republican Party . No, i dont think so. I think congress has ever right and i think frankly theyve got a responsibility to investigate it. The fact that donald trump is saying he doesnt know. At this point maybe he doesnt know. So julie but to say he doesnt care i dont think is fair. A little known facts about you since youre familiar to this audience. A political refugee from russia, 1980. A graduate degree in russian studies. I want to know what youre suggesting by saying you want this fully investigated and retaliate in kind. What are you suggesting . What im suggesting is that we have means im not suggesting that we start world war iii. We have means to cut off their means. We have access to their Bank Accounts in the city of london here in new york and real estate. We have access to hurt Vladimir Putin. Im not suggesting hurting the russian people, hurting his inner circle. When you have a member of the party saying, yeah, you know what, we may have had a Little Something to do with wikileaks, saying that publicly right after our election, i would take him at his word and i would take him at his word that the russians are gloating over this. As to nato, i guess when russian tanks start e massing at the border, the president elect is going to send a check and then maybe well consider coming to their defense. I dont think thats how our nato alliances worked since the 1940s and it should not work that way now. Governor huckabee, last word to you. If you think jim mad dog mattis is going to sit back and let the russians do whatever they wish to do, you clearly dont understand who this man is and the kind of caliber that hes going to bring to the defense department. Theres in reason at all to believe that donald trump will be anything less than a strong president , much stronger than the one in office that weve had in office for the past eight years who stood back, hands in the pockets as the russians did what they wish. Thanks to both of you. Before the president elect is sworn in some political analysts are looking down the road to 2018. And it does not look good for the struggling Democratic Party. Larry sabato here next. Even though mr. Trump went to bat for organized labor at carrier, hes being accused of prepping for war against the unions. Anthony scaramucci, a key member of the president s Transition Team is here on that. Plus, a College Student videos a shocking antitrump rant from one of his professors and now the school is trying to punish him. Well talk with the young man who posted this video just ahead. White supremacists and the president is one of the most antigay humans in this country. 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We did phenomenally in michigan and then we won wisconsin, we won wisconsin and of course we won pennsylvania. It started with ohio, that we won by almost nine points. And then iowa came in and we won by more than ten. And we won almost every single county in iowa and we won one county that hadnt been won since 1952. Thats a long time. That was president elect trump in michigan just moments ago thanking local voters for helping flip blue states like michigan to red. And before mr. Trump is sworn in the political analysts are looking at whats coming down in 2018 when Senate Democrats will defend 25 seats. Democrats havent been that exposed in senate mid terms in more than 50 years. Could we have an even more Republican Congress . My next guest know as thing or two about trends. Joining me now is the direct of university of Virginia Center for politics. Dr. Larry sabato. What do you see in 2018 . In the kacase of 2018, as ba as this november 8th was for democrats, i think particularly in the senate the democrats are likely to be bitterly disappointed. As you noted, out of the 33 senate seats that are up in 2018, 25 of them are democratic, meaning democrats are very exposed, have to raise a lot of money just to protect and defend the seats they already have. Only eight republican seats are up and out of those eight, at least early on only one is only vulnerable, the one in nevada. Its a great situation for democrats as long as President Trump keeps his job approval high. So thats the keep point. So what does it have to look like, what does the donald Trump Presidency have to look like in 2018 for everything that you just said to still remain true . I think he has to show Real Progress on the economy and the promises that he made. The key promises that he made. And it starts out with the economy, because ten of the democratic seats, ten of those 25 seats are in states that donald trump carried this past november 8th. So that is a real warning sign to the democratic incumbents in those states. Now in the economy doesnt improve for the voters who backed trump, who were hoping to see a turn around, then theyll be less inclined to show up and vote for republican candidates. On the other hand, if we see real economic progress and theyre pleased with plumps performance, then i think some of the democrats like in north dakota and missouri and indiana and on and on, some of those democrats will be in real trouble. Can i talk about one other number here . You say dems need the three seats to take Senate Control but its much more likely that republicans go from 52 to mid to upper 50s. Some believe that republicans can go to 60 or beyond. Why is that important . Well, yes. Ed morsi and the hot air blog thinks that republicans could go to 62 or 63. And two years in advance im not going to argue with him. I think its probably, you know, mid 50s, upper 50s. Why does it matter. Because on many subjects in the senate, in order to pass something you really have to have 60 votes. You have to control 60 votes. Now you dont have to get 60 republicans to get 60 votes. Again there are democrats representing red states. Those who survive the election may be more inclined to vote with the republicans on certain key issues. But you have to get to 60 to make things work for most votes in the senate. Thank you. Here with more and we want to go through the numbers a little bit. Chief speech writer to president Bush Marc Thiessen and richard fowler. Marc, it looks like trouble for the democrats in 2018. What do you see . Yes, it is trouble for the democrats and particularly it puts them in a bind in terms of how they govern. You look at the numbers that larry just put out. There are ten Senate Democrat that are vulnerable because theyre running in states that donald trump won, some he won overwhelmi overwhelmingly, montana, 22 , missouri 19 , indiana 19 , ohio by 8 . Those democrats are going to be targeted by republicans for every single vote coming up in the United States senate. So Chuck Schumer, the new democratic leader, hes facing a tough senate map, a new president whos won a lot of democratic states. Hes got to decide, do i let these ten Senate Democrats, do i release them and allow them to vote with trump and give him the votes to pass his agenda or do i force them to vote the party line. Hes damned if he does and damned if he doesnt. If he released them and they vote with donald trump, donald trump becomes a successful president. Passing a lot of things by bipartisan majorities and the country is happy with him. But if he doesnt release them, if he makes them obstruct, theyre going to be attacked as obstructionists in the states that donald trump won. In the meantime, richard fowler, democrats have to decide who they want to be. And look in the mirror and reflect after this stunning loss. Theres no question the Democratic Party is going to have to rebuild. But its really, really way too early were two years away from the 2018 elections, number one. This time last year we thought it was going to be a george w. I mean jeb bush Hillary Clinton primary election. That didnt happen. We have to look to the American People and let them make the decision. Marcs point, hes talking about all of these races. Theyre individual races. In virginia, former governor very popular in the state, an independent guy. He didnt vote with the Democratic Party all of the time or the Republican Party. What the democrats are going to do is this. When donald trump does something that supports working families, supports the American People, democrats will vote with him. When he goes against working families, goes against immigrants, theyll go against him. Its a simple strategy. Marc, ill go to you on the last point. Recent polling is show that. Pugh research is seeing a dramatic uptick in the way that the democrats are perceiving donald trump. This is the share of democrats who think donald trump will be a poor president. Back in october, 89 . Thats dropped 25 points to now 64 . Because i think that everybody wants were at the start of a new administration. Everybody wants donald trump to succeed, at least most of the country wants donald trump to succeed. Every president starts with a clean slate. What the Senate Democrats have to realize is that obstruction didnt work well for them. Harry reid last 12 senate seats and lost control of the senate. Does Chuck Schumer want to continue that reid approach of obst

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