Cameras and broadcast it live on facebook. Police were initially suggesting that hate crime charges were not a guarantee considering scenes like this from the hate crime in question. [ bleep ] [laughter] it is not funny, yall. Megyn but it went on for hours. Hours. And the list of the things they did to this young man is dis gusting. The chicago pd defended their delay in the charges and president obama calling it despicable and thats the word and saying that Race Relations have gotten better and Race Relations have a silver lining. I can promise you for the most part, that the Race Relations have gotten better. What we have seen over the years when it comes to the tension in communities, the internet and the hate crimes. Megyn what is your reaction to that . It is terrible. We dont benefit from pretending that racism exists. The fact that we can talk about things, means that we can solve them. Megyn first, we start with trace gala goer in our news room. After being held on tortured for hours, the man was only able to escape because of the noise. The 18yearold victim ran out of the house and soon spotted by police. Despite the brutal chicago weather, the victim that has not been named was wearing a tank top and scandals. They confessed they were kicking him and beating him and made him drink toy toilet water and cut his scalp. During the 30minute facebook stream, you can see the victims mouth shut and the victim was asked about black people. Watch. Get on the floor right now get on the floor. [ bleep ]. Its all about black people. The Chicago Police now say that the hate crime charges were never in question, but since yesterday they say quote if this is sincere or ranting and raving. They are linked to the black lives matter, but the Chicago Police say they have found no link. Escalating from a hate fight and what the president calls despicable. Megyn joining us is scott bolden, former chair of the democratic party. It looks like a clear hate crime. It seems it was charged as one now. I dont see the difference and charging someone of their race or mental disability and he was mentally challenged and they specifically referenced his race in the video. I try to look at the other side, megyn. I think that you have to look at each racial fact and it is enough here to give the prosecutors enough to charge as a hate crime and look in the statute and if you select your victim because of that, it is a hate crime. I dont see the problem here. As a criminal defense attorney, im interested in what is happening on that video. Remember, there is a prior relationship. It is hard to prove a crime if there is a prior relationship . Megyn what . Hard to prove a crime or a hate crime . Was he targeted because he had a Mental Health issue or because he was white. Megyn now, you are on to if it is a hate crime and im trying to make a distinction here and you are saying it is hard to make a crime. It is not hard at all. Kidnapping and battery. I dont disagree with the charges, but was it a hate crime . Was he kidnapped and assaulted because he was mentally challenged or a fight or some other reason . Megyn now, you are on to something. Yes, they mentioned his race and mentioned donald trump. Apparently, they were friends and some sort of fight. I dont know if it is verbal or physical and proceeded the 5hour torture and the question is if it is going to be what that was about that led to this event. The arguments that he makes are relevant ones in front of a jury. But lets be real for a moment, look at the facts. Which way do you think that a jury is going to go . Megyn why does it matter if they are charged for a hate crime. They are looking at 30 years. All four people are in prison for 30 years. They are going to be charged with kidnapping and agriculture vatted battery and in prison for years for that. The sentence that is going to be imposed and we are having this debate if they are going to get more years because it is a hate crime. Megyn we dont know anything about these individuals. 18 and 1 is 24. If they are con workeded on this litany of charges, they are not going to jail for 30 years, so what is going to be . 3 to 7 years or 5 to 9 years under the illinois law. Thats what you are looking for. They have to prove the crime first. And then, the hate crime is tacked on by the judge or the jury. Megyn look at the video. 30 minutes long. They are going to get time. They are going to get time. They should. They are. But look for 1 or 2 to plead out and corroborate against the other. Megyn we have to go. Thanks to see you both. The uproar over this story and one writer saying that we may need to do some serious soul searching and what we have seen about this case. The wake of protrump hate crimes. You know where people say that Trump Supporters go to beat down nonTrump Supporters and real antitrump hate crimes and the heat and the convergence of what he called protrump narratives and one analyst on nbc is suggesting that these suspects are too stupid to be criminals. Looking on the surface and kids can make some poor decisions from time to time. But if they were trying to be criminal, to broadcast your crime is not a smart thing to do. Megyn good to see you both. I think that hes actually, usually great in the washington post. This one hes taken a lot of heat for because hes suggesting that if the attackers were white and the victim black, it would have conniered the history of white mobs against black people, but it is not approaching the same scale and people feel hesdy mingishing the seriousness here and this could be more easily dismissed given the narrative and this countrys history. Your thoughts katie . It plays into the narrative that a lot of people in the liberal media led us to believe that hate crimes can only be committed by minorities and to say this is trump narrative and in the video they are antitrump and saying very racist things to this white man and doesnt lead up to hate crimes can only be committed by white people and it is not true. Megyn 22 of trump voters said the same about black people facing a lot of discrimination and the world view of the Trump Supportersand they can find support in this one awful video. I dont want to diminish the larger narrative of this video from the right or the left. What happened to me and your previous segment laid out the controversies and to me, as a human perspective, it is a hate crime for the many reasons that people have outlined and are covering the story. Im from the left and as liberal as it gets and on this particular issue, it is a hate crime and when the men were saying these racial overtones and the channeleds chants of go trump. Megyn if the asill i cant and the victim were reversed and there has been a lot of coverage, but the critics claim not as much as there would have been other size. Not as much otherwise and when this story bloke and in postelection era and the very few Police Reports filed in the Trump Supporters against the people who voted for Hillary Clinton and here we are today and didnt mention the races of the alleged attackers and the victim. The White Supremacy is prevalent in america and we have heard in the past six months to a year and only white people can commit hate crimes and i doubt that we have seen headlines that this situation that we have seen as a horrific crime is just a compilelation of the antihillary critic. I dont know why he would do it. Im telling that you that i read the New York Times every day and thats how it gets and dont try to make this woe is me issue. Legally, it is a hate crime and i dont like the narrative that suddenly saying whoa is me and people are getting oppressed. Lets not diminish it by politicalizing it. Megyn great to see you both. Thanks, megyn. Megyn former cia expert James Woolsey decided to retire. Hes here next. Legislation land mines for the trump team. Legislative land mines you say . And Hillary Clintons political future and the role that she is considering. Guess what she might run for . A busy night here on the kelly file. Megyn breaking tonight, top u. S. Intelligence experts that russia meddled in the 2016 election and the former chief stopped short of saying why the kremlin did it. We will get to that next week. The director of National Intelligence today walks right up the edge. Chief correspondent Katherine Harris was there for all of it. The russian president pulling the strings and the intent was to help donald trump win and make sure that Hillary Clinton lost and confirming that russia wanted to expand its influence. The you arussians are hell bn establishing presence in the western hemisphere. Saying that it is multifaceted with the emails and the witnesses avoided calling the russian president putin by name and that it came from the top. The high level russian authorities is shared by all of these agencies . Yes. There is a unclassified version that should be public on monday that is supposed to address who is behind the meddling and why. Do you think in the report next week that you all will subscribe a motivation for putin for the election attempt. Yes, we will. I would rather not, again preempt the report. And the Intelligence Service has proved . All of this has been. Identifying who delivered the story email to wick coy leeks and masquerading behind the third parties to confuse who gets the documents. The president is going to get his briefing tomorrow. Megyn thanks. And James Woolsey just resigned and the leader of four administrations and a leading expert. Thank you for being here. Why did you do that . Why did you resign . I didnt actually resign. What i said that is i wanted it known i was working on the transition. I had helped with some of the campaign and during the transition, i was speaking to the press. Megyn why is that important to you that people didnt have the idea that you had the role that you did . The transition was over and i didnt want people saying i was a senior on the transition, because i wasnt. I didnt think that it was right to have claimed something that wasnt the case. Megyn the story is that he stopped using you and you were excluded in the recent weeks from russian intel matters and you were being excluded. And misrepresented. I didnt feel i was being misrepresented, but i was not called upon to participate beyond the transition and i spent an amount of time talking to the press and explaining the positions of the trump organization. Megyn tonight, bill rukker is reporting that you were taken aback on the intelligence frame work and that you chased trumps lose style on twitter and there is more to this than you are reporting tonight. Is that accurate . I think it is important to realize there is more than one way to reform intelligence. I have been on this issue for quite some time back in 2011 when i was faced with the Intelligence Matters for the committee and post 9 11 and the form and direction is not a good one. There are a lot of weaknesses and problems and we can talk about it sometime when you have time. Megyn trump is denying that hes going to revamp the intelligence organization. I think it is going to look a lot more like the oss than today, which is a very bureaucratic structure and needs to have changes made. I dont know the changes that are being considered by mr. Trump. Megyn i dont want to press you because you are a gentleman for coming on, but i want to give you a chance. Are you challenging the reporting by the washington posttonight . I think that they were challenging an issue of what type of change is going to be proposed by the Trump Administration in two weeks and i cant tell. What i can tell is what i see now as the result of reform over the past few years, i dont think is sound and needs substantial attention. Megyn great to see. Thank you for coming on. What the Obama Administration is leaving behind. They have a little surprise for team trump. Plus, should new york city be able to hide the thousands of documents of the undocumented immigrants from the feds . Thats straight ahead. 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Megyn developing tonight, just 15 days to go with a peaceful transition of power and how far the out going administration will go with the Incoming Administration and leads to ask if there is a plan to undermine the inauguration on inauguration day. When it comes to the administration policy, the environment and criminal justice, trump is a clear and present danger to the lawmakers in california and hiring the attorney general, eric holder to represent them. Eric holder is with a law firm that specializes in fighting the feds and in the end, hes going to save the state money and forgot to mention that the economy is still struggling and the Pension System is about 4 billion in debt. Heres what iser had to say about his home state hiring holder. It is a poor choice, but a mill statement and thousands of tax dollars spent on someone who probably shouldnt have a law license anymore. And come january 20th, the then former president is not going to be riding off into the sunset like his former predecessor and watching from dc and the obamas are going to live in the neighborhood and the first to not leave the neighborhood after leaving the white house. Vice president joe bye den says that hes not leaving dc and on hand to help from the sidelines. Megyn dr. Charles krauthammer, you have been watching the Obama White House unfold over the past two terms, so what do you think . They are unconnected and california is overly democratic and they use the attorney general of the state and go to the court and try and stop obama in places where congress was unable to and they succeeded on the environment and blocking immigration. So, they decided to do the gorilla warfare from the state. Obama has been rejected by the country and he can see the trump agenda in control of all branches and systematically unfold every that he did and make him a paren thesis in american history. Megyn what do you make when you compare what George W Bush did when leaving office . And when he left, he said that president obama was going to systematically dismantle the bush agenda and granted president obama has a young daughter in school and wants her to finish and the notion that hes going to stay and continue fighting on behalf of the American People is essentially different than what we saw eight years ago. When president s leave office, they generally dont make a plea on their own behalf, it is beneath them. Eisenhower didnt make one. Obama is going to make one next week. Narcissism is probably overst e overstating it, but he says that his own reputation is at stake. He doesnt have to meddle in that and as a matter of decency, you let your successor operate and see how he does and dont heckle from the sidelines. I dont think that obama has the play book. Megyn so they are talking about presidency and we saw this from jared and said this. President obama hasnt done anything to embarrass himself, but thats because who he is and i think thats what is going to rest nate with the American People. Megyn just hit one. Just off of the top of my head. Benghazi, right . Benghazi and the caper plan and an out and out fall hood and resulted in out rage and millions of people being misled and the irs and you can go and on. I think that jared was adopting pollute tonnian definition of scandal and it literally happened with the clintons. I can assure that it wont happen with the obamas. And you have to give him credit and eight years without the rumors and what you usually get with the conduct of in the. Of the president. But saying that if Congress Wont act, i will. And the contradiction of the whole idea of a limited executive. They are far more damaging. I give a pass on the minor part, but on the major part, it is truly astonishing. I bet ya she truly believes it. Megyn people l dead in bengha benghazi, it is scandalous, but we are going to leave it to the American People to decide that. Charles, good to see you. Hillary clintons political career maybe taking a turn. Guess what she might run for . Thats next. And the thousands of people who are here illegally and why all of those the records might be destroyed. Were here to tell you. S billin. But nobody knows the box behind the discounts. Oh, its like my father always told me put that down. Thats expensive. Of course i save people an average of nearly 600, but whos gonna save me . [ voice breaking ] and thats when i realized. Im allergic to wasabi. Well, i feel better. Its been five minutes. Talk about progress. [ chuckles ] okay. Talk about progress. [ chuckles ] whfight back fastts, with tums smoothies. It starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. And neutralizes stomach acid at the source. Tum tum tum tum smoothies only from tums from the World Headquarters of fox news, its the kelly file. With megyn kelly. Megyn accusations that city officials inew megyn new tonight, city officials in new york are threatening our National Security by vowing to protect the thousands that