Partisan screeching by the democrats legal stooges. Let me begin by stating my conclusions. The democrats started with their conclusions all the way back to his inauguration in january 2017 before ukraine, before muller, before anything they wanted trump impeached. So, lets translate into the truth. Nancy pelosis utterly disingenuous announcement last week. Sadly confidence and humility. Sadly what . This . Impeach 45. Impeach 45. Were google and their we are going to go in about it and teach them. Their sad, so sad. Theyve been dying to do this for three years. Its obvious they hate trump and they are loving this, but they know how wrong and divisive it is so they have to pretend to be sad. These people are so cynical. About this, the facts are uncontested. Weve literally had weeks of the facts being contested. You can agree or disagree with the argument on either side but to say the facts are uncontested is truly doublespeak. Equally offensive are how they shamelessly plunder the constitution to justify their petty partisan scheme. James mattis warned the president. [inaudible] another founder knew that a president may be bribed by greater interest. Bribed, in these entire proceedings, not a single witness has suggested for a single second that anyone bribed the president to do anything, but because the focus groups a bribery is the word to use the democrats just say it. Heres another term. In america, no one is above the law, apart from lets see, democrat president ial candidat candidates, that must never be investigated. Much clarified the doctrine from pelosi, no one is above the law except joe biden and here is her whole case in a nutshell. The president has engaged in abuse of power, undermining our National Security and jeopardizing the integrity of our election. She said trump undermined americas National Security by withholding military aid to ukraine. So terrible for National Security. Only a monster like trump would do that, or maybe this guy who did exactly the same thing, not a people out of pelosi back then about National Security. She said trump has jeopardized the integrity of our elections. Lets see, trump wants to find out if ukraine interfered in the 2016 election. If u. S. Government policy was affected. His son was being paid by Ukrainian Gas Company and its pelosi who says she and her democrat crony should choose the next president , not you the voters. Chutrump is jeopardizing our election . Everything they accuse him of, undermining democracy, ignoring the rule of law, abusing power, they are guilty of themselves. Any reasonable person can see that on policy results, on the substance, on the facts this is one of the most successful president s in history and the establishment cant stand it. They were certain tribes would be a disaster. Its because hes weak success but they are impeaching him. Tell us what you think at steve hilton x and next rev fnc. Lets see what our guests think tonight. Sarah carter, former congressman and author of power grabbed jason and president of independent women voices tammy bruce. Just to sort of set the conversation up. None of us have any opinion. I just want make sure we take it all into the key points. As a Public Service to anyone who wants to refute the democrats impeachment nonsense over the next few days, weeks, months or however long this goes on, what were going to do tonight with our guests, were going to review the various arguments knocking around on both sides and see which ones are bad and which are good. Lets start with the main one from the democrats. This report chronicles a scheme by the president of the United States to coerce an ally ukraine, that is at war with an adversary, russia, into doing the president s political dirty work. This is the central charge and this is the point i dont think people have recognized enough for the public hearing proved this argument doesnt stack up. His testimony made clear that it was the officials around President Trump who cooked up the aide for investigation to improve u. S. Ukraine relations. This is an effort we are doing and it could be helpful in getting any reset of the president , the negative view he had. It would also be helpful in unblocking whatever hold there was on security assistance. If theres this negative presumption about ukraine getting the stuff on track would be helpful. The idea that President Trump had the scheme to abuse his power and do this complicated thing, its ridiculous. It is and i think the American People see it as ridiculous which is why the polls have not changed and impeachment now underwater, its because the American People see the accusation constantly changing. Its very strange. First it was russia collusion, then it was a coverup, then it was treason, then they did the focus group, then it became bribery. If you need to do focus groups on the best words to use, we know that the fraud from the start. This has been an unserious dynamic frankly as the professor noted during the hearing, that they themselves are abusing power by accusing the president of just defending himself of abusing his power and taking advantage of his position. I think the American People, they underestimate the wisdom of the American People. We are generally quiet individuals but i would point to the situation with obamacare. Another thing that was moved quickly through in a partisan manner, people were lied too, it was very aggressive, american said wait, we dont know, this is too fast in the next year, in 2010 they lost six senate seats and six house seats. That would be the answer from the American People. Were ready hearing, going back from ukraine to russia, i would guess another focus group or demand they bring in muller, it is chaos, and that such a great point. Too that point, i just wanted have you listen to this. Its a whole new argument, this is karen last week. The mother report was about the 2016 election. What happened with ukraine was about the 2020 election and we need to do everything we can to stop the president from intervening in the next president ial election. Assignment total gibberish. He cant intervene in an election where hes the candidate, what is she talking about. Mother going on that this is rigging the 2020 election and thats what weve got to do this now. Thats why they just keep throwing everything at the law hoping something sticks. Lets remember it was during the Obama Biden Administration that russia came in and took over 9 of ukraine. Theyre the ones that took crimea and it was president obama who did not give them the legal aid. Two main facts bode well. He released the transcripts she can go out and read it for yourself, and there was no quid pro quo, he released everything that was out there. And the aide that theyre talking about but theyre so concerned about was released before the deadline. It doesnt get any more clear than that. Another one they been throwing in their sarah, lets listen to this one. Its come up a lot this week, as are losing ground on other arguments this ones coming up. Obstruction. Look at this. A president who will not cooperate and impeachment inquiry is putting himself above the law. Putting yourself above the law as president is the core of an Impeachable Offense because if he could not be impeached for that he would in fact not be responsible to anybody. That guy has done so much damage. He did extraordinary damage. He sang never to box him in because we know he didnt commit any crime, when i went to suggest the crime he did commit is the fact that he doesnt come and testify that he didnt commit any crime which is an Impeachable Offense. This is all wordsmithing. Thats what it is. American people look at the channel, they watch these folks using their big words answering out other harvard educated in stamford educated words and you know they say there is nothing here. This is a bunch of, joe biden would like to call it malarkey and they change the channel and thats why the numbers are going up. There was no crime committed. The president did exactly what he was supposed to do. He is not supposed to hand out u. S. Dollars and u. S. Aid without having any review of whats going on, and too bad that joe bidens son was taking money from a corrupt, supposedly corrupt energy company. If he was involved in that, thats Something Else altogether. The president has a right to review, he released the money and provided aid, exactly what he was supposed to do at that time. This obstruction point, what do we make of this. If the whole thing is illegitimate. This is a large part of why trump was elected. We saw a lack of due process, a lack of fairness. We naturally dont like things being unfair and yet hes being accused of obstruction because he is challenging in court there subpoenas which you get to do. It is a legal thing you do. It is the proper process and this is what we think we should be able to do, theyre saying you dont get to defend yourself, defending yourself is obstruction and the American People dont like this and combined with these phone calls and getting the phone records, now that looks murky, the americans are seeing this and there reminded about what it was we didnt like pre2016 which was a federal government gone wild and not just at a Mardi Gras Parade but everywhere thine obstruction part. It is absurd. For eight years i was on the Oversight Committee and the chair of the committee. I issued subpoenas and letters and if theres one that led the charge in blocking and making sure that congress didnt get access, it was the obama and biden administration. If thats there motive for impeachment, barack Obama Shouldve been impeached a long, long time ago. There is executive privilege, there are things in this tension between our coequal branches of government, but if you exercise your right it doesnt mean youre guilty of doing something, it means that part needs to be adjudicated and the people who didnt come before the committee, they werent even issued a subpoena. That is stalinist framework just as it is bring me the man and ill find you the crime. It normally should be theres a crime and then you deal with. But theyve been fishing for crime. They been doing this from the start. And people see that. You touched on this earlier. Lets go to the ski argument from the republicans which is the aide being delivered. The president released the money and ukraine did nothing for the money to be released to those are the two part. Jim jordan made the point. The only direct evidence that we ever had was ambassador someone saying he had a direct conversation with President Trump. He said i dont want anything, no. Quote. Just to do the right thing. When they say, in response to that its an attempted crime and that still a crime, what you think. I think the mistake to go i o into the weeds of what was done when and if theres response because all of this is a challenge to the president s right to conduct Foreign Policy. Every negotiation, i dont know what you call sending over 1. 5 billion on a pallet of cash to the iranians to get them to do something. Wasnt that part of the exchange, all negotiations involved this for that. In some fashion whether its trying to get north korea to do something or iran or an ally, but however it is to proceed, this is the nature of what the president , what any president does which is the right to conduct Foreign Policy sec that. He does have the right to conduct Foreign Policy secs lead and you cant charge someone with a crime because the deliberating and thinking about how things should go. Were gonna start charging people for their thoughts. You see this argument the whole time, the president only release the aide because he got caught. Lets listen. In the situation weve got somebody caught in the middle of it and that doesnt excuse the person from the consequences. For jason only time for one response on this but this annoys me so much because what theyre saying is that the president had the block on aid, he then found out about the whistleblower and thats the only reason they released it. Whereas theres all this contradictory stuff, theres ron johnson saying he had a phone call with the president days before the whistleblower went anywhere near the white house with the president hinting he was gonna do it. You also have the call from rob portman. Its just completely made up. Its basically a debunked Conspiracy Theory thats endlessly recycled. The professor that testified had no firsthand knowledge. You did hear from a gentleman from the state department, i dont recall his name who does have firsthand knowledge and he said there was a deep consideration by the entire administration based in large part on the law that said weve got to make sure that others like germany and others are contributing into. Exactly. And again the money was released before the deadline. There you are. I think we did a pretty good job going through the arguments. Just one thing i want to say before we go to break. Its about last sundays segment on Rudy Giuliani. As i said he was a transformational man and an inspirational leader. I have absolutely no wish to get into any kind of feud or fight with him in this impeachment battle the an enemy is clear, ny pelosi, adam schiff and the rest of them. We know they have been wanting to impeach this president since the day he has been elected, but in my opinion Rudy Giuliani on his associate inadvertently help provide the democrats with their latest ridiculous pretext. Thats what i mean when the when i said the president is not always well served by the people around him. Lesson i did the show from here in washington i did a piece called the swamp in the white house but i know some of you didnt like what i said and i know you feel loyalty to Rudy Giuliani and i totally get that, but my loyalty is not to any one person but all of you, my job is to tell you the truth as i see it so you know that whatever i say on whatever topic is my sincerely held belief and i will continue to call it as i see it and stand up for your interest. Sometimes i get a wrong, sometimes you wont agree we can always be sure ill give it to you straight. Coming up, the ig report set to be released tomorrow. What will it show. More on that after the break. 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He doesnt have authority to subpoena or go outside of his purview but he will definitely lay out for us and the American Public what he believes was discovery within the fbi and the d. O. J. Its probably not going to live up to everybodys expectation of people being in handcuffs and held off. When you say which people, which people. Senior officials within the fbi. I think what we can rely on is that its already been out there, the fbi lawyer that apparently altered document with the foreign intelligence is definitely gonna be called out. That might be somebody who will be referred for criminal prosecution. Ive heard there might be somebody else in that report but its been very tightlipped. There is a lot of concern here. There definitely gonna layout the Christopher Steele dossier that was never actually validated by the fbi. I dont think hes, lay out the fact that there was both the tory evidence, it will be extremely important. I think one of the things that people have to realize when the report comes out, this is not the end. Remember john durham shifted from administrative review to a criminal probe and that means that the department of justice is looking far beyond what is in this review, but certainly issues and that report triggered something inside the d. O. J. And thats what made john durham as well as william by the attorney general leave and go to italy, to london, talk to people in australia. Something bigger that play. You have a theory jason about how this connects to our theory. Why arent they doing impeachment hearing on monday morning prayer theres a lot of us that believe thats because they know the horwitz report is coming out. Congress doesnt normally go into session on monday but here comes this report. This ig report is the fifth in a series, by all estimations we will nearly have a thousand pages from the Inspector General. They have made eight referrals to the department justice, the director of fbi, the deputy director, Deputy Assistant director, counsel to the fbi, another counsel to the fbi, all for either possible criminal prosecution or internal manipulations or disciplinary actions within the fbi. It doesnt get any dirtier than that. The entire upper ash lawn of the fbi has been blown out thanks to donald trump. Now the question is will there be an equal application of justice. If we did any of the stuff we would have handcuffs on and go to jail. In the addendum report. He can make the recommendations but durum and bar are the only ones i can prosecute and charge somebody.