Child pornographers to prison. Unbelievable. Well tell you about it. The United States is going to war again. What . We are fighting pakistanians. Ahead, how would American College students deal with isis . I dont even watch the news. Im sorry. Reporter dont apologize to me. Im sorry to you. Reporter caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. Enter the no spin zone. Hi. Im bill oreilly. Thanks for watching us tonight. Defeating isis and other terror groups, the subject of this evenings talking points memo. I dont know about you but im tired of the phony rhetoric surrounding the isis Terror Threat and tired of hearing the phrase boots on the ground and finally tired of being misled by the Obama Administration. Here is the truth. Syrian moderates cannot defeat the isis terror group. Trains syrian moderates and gives them weapons, they will not not be able to defeat the terrorists. Hahp hc possibly training them to the tune of 500 million. If that money is spent it will be another total waste as america approaches 18 trillion. Most Congress People know that but they voted symbolically to take action against isis. So, what should we do . First, there is not a single credible military person who thinks the isis terror group can forces. So, we need ground forces. However, the American People, perhaps rightly so, dont want to send any more of our troops into these chaotic countries. What about a mercenary army, elite fighters well paid, well trained to defeat terrorists all over the world. Heres how it will work. Fighters recruited by america and trained in the usa by our special forces. U. S. Army rules of engagement would be followed, strict discipline formed by the Geneva Convention. America would be selecting who makes the cut and how they are deployed with an eye on a 25,000 person force. American and nato officers would lead the mercenary army and the usa would alsoju qq logistical support, each soldier would sign a contract, three year commitment and again they would be highly paid. Finally, help a lot if the u. S. Congress would formally declare war on terrorism. Strop trying to coax reluctant sometimes cowardly countries to stop islamic terrorism. These terrorists are here to stay and they will kill as many people on the earth as they can. Over the weekend they released a statement on the net from isis, if you can kill a disbelieving american or european especially the spiteful and filthy french or australian or canadian or any other disbeliever, rely upon allah and kill him in any manner or way however it may be. That statement from isis put out there in cyberspace obviously urging mass murder around the world. So, an antiterror force will eventually have to be raised. Lets see if president obama has the foresight and guts to do it now. Thats the memo. For the top story reaction, someone who worked for both president president s bush and National Guard and a professor from the u. S. Naval college. Where am i going wrong here, doctor. Will, i understand your frustration, i really do. This is a terrible idea, a terrible idea not just as a practical matter but a moral matter. It is a morally corrosive idea to try to outsource our National Security. This is something americans have themselves. We wont create this problem by creating Marvel Avengers or of the galaxy. Youre ignoring all the specifics i put in for a theoretical pie in the sky thats immoral. Whats immoral about it . U. S. Decides where they go. nvzgs were not talking about expendables 8 here, a high there i specifically trained force that operate under Geneva Convention rules. Youre giving me theoretical stuff4 o immoral. I dont get it. Nothing theoretical about dy. The worst of both worlds. Youre asking these forces to operate as u. S. Mizi6e forces and treating them as though theyre mercenaries merely because you dont want to have to use American Military forces. That cx surely you know in every single war america has ever fought we have had mercenaries under our command. Every one. Never to do the bulk of our fighting. What do you think . I want to point out first i agree with you syrian moderates regardless who theyre trained by, the United States or any other country are simply not capable of unilaterally troops. The u. S. Congress voted on this issue this week, as you mentioned, somewhat symbolically. They did this, number one, because they believe its a good first step for the United States to take. Number two, because theyre not yet readytyb to put american trs on the ground to face isis directly. As to the plan, on president iin good plan to bring on other nations together in this middle east and u. S. Strategy in this middle east weve seen in recent years has the potential to become very problematic was the lesson in iraq and afghanistan. I want to convince the doctor this is the actual moral way to do it and practical way to do it. This is a worldwide war on terror, not just isis. These guys will pop up everywhere. You have to have a rapid paa the United States certainly could do it. People dont want to do it anymore after we saw what happened in afghanistan or iraq, number two. Were not trying to nation build here, trying to put out fires. We put out fires the most effective way we x can. This pie in the sky that youre going to getzvbn six polish pl here and three french planes there, this is just a bunch of g gobbledygook. You need a centralized force to gets these guys outs. I completely agree with you. I completely agree with you the way were approaching this notion of a coalition is going to be problematic, i dont think its going to work either. Right. But on the other hand, the only way that americans are really going to commit to this, they have to be led. They need that leadership. If they believe firmly the president rallies them. I have seen too many guys come back with arms and legs blown off from corrupt people in afghanistan and iraq. We dont solve that problem by hiring an army of mercenaries claiming we really dont own them. The political problem is not solvable. You cant convince. I dont believe that. I know you dont. History shows it, the afghan population will be what theyve been for 2,000 years and the same in iraq. Tribal warfare. This force organized and trained under nato and the usa would strike fear, miss turner, into every terrorist in the world because they never know when the knock on the door is coming. Were doing it now with the seals. Were doing its nowelh n with t special forces, doing these raised. Have a 25,000 specials for can be deployed all over the usa then the terrorists know were business. I will give you the last word, miss turner, go. I think where we have the biggest problem with this plan is the money situation. Get the money from saudi arabia and all these others. Believe me, they would put billions into this if they didnt have to do anything. The money would roll in. Im sorry to interrupt. The problem i see is its really difficult to get a whole bunch of÷ . J very Different Countries to sign on to financing a Security Force thats trained, recruited and operationallized by the United States. Even if we share a National Security interest in defeating isis, it will be really tough. I think it can be done. I think it can be done. Thank you. Very good debate, you guys. Thaw for taking time. Now former . . 4qn rundown mem Obama Administration turning on the president. How College Students would confront the isis threat. The factor is coming right back. 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Ji in the impact segment tonight, trying to some sell books. Arming tpn rebels would not have been a mistake . I t7 n that would have helped and in part we paid a price for not doing that in what we see with isis. I think they are a threat and are as dangerous as fanatical as terrorists as al qaeda was. Joining us now from washington to react, mary kathryn and juan william. Lots 0 people jumping off the obama ship, juan. Youre still right there, arent you . [ laughter ] you know what, im loyal to americd our constitution and the Founding Fathers precept of civilian control of the military with the commanderinchief our president. If youre asking me about panetta and gates, you said it, youre right. Theyre selling books in a cya monday morning quarterback mode because they were there back then and they understand we couldnt identify whether or not those Syrian Rebels were really rebels or growing into terrorists. Now, we are able to do that and may have a different situation. There was no win in giving arms to people who then might turn and use them against the usa. Have to agree with you on this one. Its not easy and cut and dried to arm people. We tried it in iraq and they all ran away and the isis people got all the arms. So i am sympathetic to that you have to understand, juan, president obama looked away from this for a year and now we are in a huge mess. Im trying to get us out of the mess, mary kathryn, by putting forth what i did in the last segment. We tried to get the two brightest guests we could get, people who havegfl1 years and y of National Security experience. Nothing either of them said dissuaded me that thecmcn merce force that could absolutely be developed to rapidly deploy to all Terror Threats would be a wrong way to go. Heat of centcom and telling the public on this particular idea. Heres the thing. There is a highly trained skilled s f skilleds for skilled force that can go forth. People dont want it. They dont want it. Its not a reason to start a worldwide mercenary army. When you have that, were still going to be in control but not as in control and we have to probably less effective and then we have to answer for it. We dont have to answer to anybody. Were in charge. This is a worldwide war on terror. We can cannot fight and defend the whole world. Understand. By doing this kind of force with nato and americauyn at the head, deploying regulating, hiring and firing, you control this is the future. The future. Weve done combinations of that, as you noted. But i dont think you can do that entirely as your lead force. You can. Its absolutely doable. These Coalition People would fund it , because they dont to get their hands dirty. Turks dont want to send anybody because of radical people. Writing the check, they write the check. Do you seefo c any flaw in thi juan . I want to ask you, what about accountability, you think back to contractors hired, black water or the reagan administration, iran contra. The accountability is this congress of the United States. This is done under under our control, our congress would have to sign off on it. Thats why i think mary katharani says the best military in the world is our military an theyre loyal to us, theyre americans. Im not going to sign off on that after all the blood and treasure we spent in afghanistan. Thats fair. This is a worldwide problem and the world should be part of the solution. Go ahead, mary. Even with the mercenary army, it will be us in the lead as you stipulate in your plan and relinquishing the lead in our ruu safer for llyv the world. The deal is you do, as the last guest said you have to have a president willing to make the case to the American People to it is really tough right now with good reason. I want to start a national debate. This is goingg. Q to happen. Maybe its not going to happen soon. Its going to happen. These terrorists, islamic nuts, crazy jihadists not stopping. You kill one group, another group will start up. Kforce. D a worldwideq the u. N. Has it. All they want to do over there is drop in and build huts some place. Didnt you just say didnt you just say, though, were l3; fighting an ideology. If it was just a matter of beating them, we could send in the u. S. Military and beat them in a couple weeks, we have to find an ideology, they keep metastasizing and pop up one place and another. You fight the ideology politically and the direct threat military. I know this would work. S . 8 thank you. X. Qcymore chaos in the nati football league. Im kind of tired of this story. There is a new twist tonight. Republican party can seize the election day as president obama sink is in the polls. These reports after these messages. [meow mix jingle slowly and quietly plucks] right on cue. [cat meows] meow, meow, meow, meow. Its more than just a meal, its meow mix mealtime. With great taste and 100 complete nutrition, its the only one cats ask for by name. With up to 27 more brush movements patented Sonic Technology get healthier gums in two weeks guaranteed. Philips sonicare discover the brush thats perfect for you. The hume zone segment reporting on continued chaosac within the n zzn league. Saying there was acdgn coverupn ray rice punched out his wife last feb and the owner and coach said the 46x nfl was too slow t investigate but didni nothing wrong. Since when is it the job of a Sports League to police the private conduct, in these cases misconduct of the players that off the field outside the realm of football, this is something relatively new. Now, obviously the league and individual teams have a reputation toni protect and bras to protect. My sense about this,co this wil comelibn down to thei] sponsors. When the sponsors start to bail in large numbers and youre seeing a trickle of it already, things change. Htjoining us from washingtos mr. Hume. If i were running the ravens or any other Football Team i would have zero tolerance for misbehavior. Arrested, youre suspended. Convicted of a felony, youre pretty simple. Wouldnt that solve it . Sn unless youre concerned abt a standard with regard to the suspension bill youre guilty until proven innocent. Wait. Youre suspended with pay. I wouldnt pay you, put the money in escrow but if you were found not guilty or charges dropped you come back. Fully reinstated. Lets try to apply that to the ray rice case, right . Right. Theres his episode. We see the end of it, at least initially, not the punch itself. The wife, the victim declines to press charges. Right. Theres no conviction. There will be, though, because you dont need the wifes testimony with the tape. That may be so but at this point, theres been no conviction. Hes more than suspended, hes gone. If im the owner, hes suspended. The moment hes arrested for domestic battery, hes suspended, salary goes into escrow. This has to be arrest, not say so of an3 and cant be a civil situation, divorce for anything like that. Has to be arrested, has to be charged. Hes suspended, convicted of a felony, not a misdemeanor, hes done, thats it,w thats th policy. That makes sense particularly in this respect ap it doesnt e in the hands of an accuser who may not be acting in good faith the power to damage somebody permanently. Exactly. We want to protect peoples rights, constitutional rights. At the same time, this is a league with social implications, particularly for children and young adults. Its not just somebody making tires. Its public and over the Public Airways on the networks. Its a different deal. 3fpy they have to have standards of behavior. Look, at fox news we have standards of behavior. We work for the News Corporation and were on the air. If we do something untoward, were off the air. They can pull us off for any reason they want to pull us off pretty much. Its[xmalmost the same thing wi the sports teams. Well, in their contracts as well that will permit the teams to suspend or otherwise discipline a player that has done something deemed damaging to te team and name of the team brand. I worry about situationsuc2oc w you get one of these fire storms going and it seems almost like a lynch mob forms. Fady critics are not just after ray rice here, theyre after the commissioner of the ia bsleague. They want him fired. And theres a mob mentality to this no doubt about it. Goodell, i dont think i yt wou fire him. He seems to be making a lot of money for the league and why the league is there. But on the social implications of what ray rice did and other guys are charged these arek4u3n serious things and i think the league should suspend him. Rice case isnt it a little con descending to take the attitude the wife, herc0h say so in this matter. She went ahead after this episode and married the guy, sticks up for him now. This appears to be what motivated goodell in part to treat the matter as a twogame suspension to treat her say so as if shes behaving like the classic victim and so on. Im not sure we know what the interior of the reality of that relationship of those two people is. Can i comment on what you just said . Of course. I dont think any american should ever say a word about that wife. You dont know. Youre not in her shoes. You shouldnt say a word. I havent. I think anybody who doesibug hm doing something wrong. Do not say anything about her. The very least, shes a victim, all right. But if she chooses to live her life that way, we shouldnt say anything about it. Brit, always provocative. Thanks very much as the factor moves along this evening. Outrageous situation in