And i respect the process. But it was clear to me after new york and that, you know, huge that he was going to sweep in. Thats exactly whats happened. Here are the numbers that we have thus far. And we are awaiting ted cruz who is probably going to speak during this hour and we will take a good part of the senatorsere is is going ton now. Made announcement made by him. One of two things, is he either going to california or hanging it up. Now, the headline of the exit polling is . I think there is two headlines. The outsider headline continues to ring true. More than anything else, what these voters in indiana wanted was an outsider by huge numbers. They also are very concerned about the u. S. Economy. And 92 say they are either concerned or very concerned. They believe that donald trump, who has spoken to them since last summer about fixing trade deals, about bringing manufacturing back to the United States, thats what matters to these voters and ted cruz had made a bet that they were very conservative, that he could win enough, bring them out in large enough numbers and he did win with very conservative. The problem is that the majority of g. O. P. Voters or the independents who went g. O. P. Tonight are not very conservative. They fall much more into the somewhat conservative and moderate. 62 were moderate or what conservative and the rest very conservative. This is what they call an open primary. Nibble can vote for nibble. Right. On the democratic side what did we see in the exit polling . So, Bernie Sanders is ahead with independents neck and neck race at this moment. I just told how is going to win. I know bill oreilly already told how is going to win. Bernie. Have not called a winner this state yet there is a look at the independents number. See very well. Thats what is going to put bernie over the top. Independents, absolutely. In terms of the honest and trustworthy number, she had record high for those who believe she is not honest and trustworthy 44 . Yet 53 believe she is. She is not that worried about indiana. Her overall numbers is very strong and she looks like she will make it through this process and secure the nomination. When you say she is not worried about winning it because she is so far ahead. We are going to talk to two democrats later. She didnt even take out a tv ad not one in the whole state. No. Not one ad. What caught my eye and i want you to explain it to me because i display it wrong in the exit polling is that a substantial number of Republican Voters will not say they will not vote for donald trump if he gets the nomination. Whats that all about . This is what the number is these are people who voted for ted cruz or donald trump. People who did not vote for trump. Then you break that down and say where are you going to go . 51 of them say they will never vote for trump. They are in the quote never trump crowd. The question is where will they go . Will some of them potentially go to Hillary Clinton . Will they stay home . And then you see how the numbers stack up. It looks to me like its going to be 55 45 on a combination of kasich and cruz will get 45 of the vote in indiana and trump will get 55 . That means that 45 of republicans, you cut that in half, what did you say 44 wont vote . 51 . So half of that if that holds, Hillary Clinton would win indiana which is a republican state. Always goes republican if that holds. Trump has a good point is that the whole thing is going to turn around, the whole dynamic once its a oneonone that number caught my eye. It is a very interesting number. And it goes i mean, this is a dugin never trump crowd. What we are seeing also is that Republican Voters in indiana, 60 of them say that they believe this process has divided their party there is a rift. There is a big rift. No doubt seeing numbers bear out in indiana tonight. he believes can he bring some of those numbers over. He believes those numbers will not stay at 51 . Got ugly in indiana. Thank you for bringing that up. Im not going to use the attacks that tid cruz made on donald trump. I havent done that the whole time. We call it ad hominem to the man attacks unless there is somebody here to apply it if cruz were here i would use it what are you doing or if trump were here do you want to reply . Just to use them because cruz got frustrated today and he laid out donald trump in a very personal way. One last thing but he won the late deciders. Problem is there werent a lot of late deciders. Late deciders have to have him and his campaign looking at that number what if we did this earlier . No, he should not have done it. Some of it may have been. You do it face to face, you dont do it. Thats what he said initially. Those personal attacks. I said this about boehner the other day when he attacked cruz. Okay . No. Thats wrong. And we dont want to be a part of it nice job as always, martha. We appreciate it next on the rundown. Charles krauthammer on what happens now for the Republican Party. And, later, gutfeld and mcguirk with their unique view on the indiana vote. Also, if the candidates speak during this hour, you will hear them. Factor is coming right back. Constipated . Trust number one doctor recommended dulcolax use dulcolax tablets for gentle overnight relief suppositories for relief in minutes and stool softeners for comfortable relief of hard stools. Dulcolax, designed for dependable relief unless you have allergies. Flonase is the first and only nasal spray approved to relieve both itchy, watery eyes and congestion. No other nasal allergy spray can say that. Go ahead, embrace those beautiful moments. Flonase changes everything. Continuing now with the indiana vote joining us from washington Charles Krauthammer. So you heard the exit polling and obviously Republican Party is divided. Obviously there are people, republicans who will not vote for donald trump no matter what is that a significant issue, do you believe . I believe its highly significant. When you have splits in the party that go unresolved, you generally lose. Look at 1980 on the democratic side a bittered campaign between the incumbent jimmy carter and ted kennedy, the challenger. They kind of held hands for a minute at the end of the convention. They never rec son soiled. The party was shown of course reagan was a strong opponent. You go back to 76, reagan and ford. Neck and neck, undecided before the Kansas City Convention and they lost narrowly in the general election. But they still lost did you know reagan wouldnt vote for ford . Did you know that . Whether he did or not, the question is did his followers . No. No but reagan himself, if you read killing reagan, im sure you have. You just forgot that part. He wouldnt vote for ford and neither would nancy. They were vocal about it you are right. This is a split in it. Here is what trump says. And trump is going to be on tomorrow with us. Trump says you know what . I dont need all of this. Im going to create a new constituency. Im going to create voters who are going to come to me from democratic precincts from precincts from independents that kind of thing. Thats what he believes. Is he not going to pander. Is he going to be himself and try to get this whole new cabal in to vote for him. I agree. If i were trump, that would be my route. Your route to winning the presidency is to flip a few of the traditionally blue states, particularly in the rust belt industrial states that have suffered with whom trump has had some affinity in running as in the primary system. And if he can achieve that hold on to the traditional Republican Base he will win. On the other hand, can you look at this from raw demographics. Bologna, i dont believe that. If you have a 3 to 1 disadvantage among women which he now has. If can he persuade up against hillary oneonone and he has got, you know, six months to do it thats all going to go away. Its just how effective is he going to be oneonone. I have got it ask you this question. You know trump gives you jazz all day long and rove and a lot of the conservative establishment in washington are i guys really angry . There is a wall street journal column today by Bret Stephens is he really teed trump is going to get it. Are your guys angry down there . I dont have guys. I have myself and conscience. You have colleagues. Cocktail party folks. You may not know this, if you had read my own book you know i dont go to cocktail parties but then, again, i dont expect you to have read it. [ laughter ] , look, the problem is, this and its a very unusual one historically,ing what we are just witnessing happening tonight is one the major american parties changing its political ideology radically, it was until now the last 50 years. Going all the way back to perhaps eisenhower the conservative party in the country. As of tonight, its being led by a nonconservative. Populist. Populist. Right. Pop plism populism is a perfectly legitimate policy but its not conservatism. This has not happened for the democrats either. New universe a lot of people say i signed on to be a republican because im a conservative. Yeah. But there are going to be just as many people who say im not a doctrine conservative i want someone who is going to shape things up and get phony politicians out on their ears. Those people are more in number an the idealogues. I believe that. If you are right, then trump will be president in january of next were. Okay. Im not going to go that far because i do believe that the country is changing demographically and it is going to have to be a state by state gradual and what we saw in the exit poll isnt good news for donald trump a good 25, 30 say no way im going to vote for him. We saw that in virginia where he didnt do well at all, trump. These are states he desperately needs. You didnt answer my question and you were very clever about doing it. Do i look are they angry that trump has got it. My answer is i have no idea what the socalled establishment, if it exists is thinking. I can tell you what im thinking do i look angry . No. You look very mellow tonight, charles. But i think you are tired. Lets put it as im resigned. Im realistic. Are you going to vote for trump . I have not decided what im going to do except for. This im going, as i have right now, to try to state what i sees a the future of the party. And the question is are we going to have a conservative program before us or not . I dont know but we will see. You will have a conservative platform in cleveland in july because trump knows he has to present a conservative platform. Does trump believe it like ted cruz does . No is he much more of a practical politician. Thats where he has been successful. The dealmaking if he has to shake hands with the devil, he will shake hands with the devil to make the deal. Is he not going to do what ted cruz would have done had cruz secured the nomination, which he will not let me just say what i have seen up until now heard from trump and watched him, i dont think i would be capable of voting for donald trump question is what do i do . I dont know yet. Why wouldnt you be capable of voting for donald trump if he presents himself as a practical populist conservative why couldnt you vote for him. Populist conservative is a contradiction in terms. Im a traditional populist. I dont like to characterize myself as liberal or conservative but im a traditional populist. Im not sure i would vote for you. [ laughter ] if you were on the ballot. See, you know me. Thats a whole different story. Yeah, that makes it worse in this case. All right. But lets get back to trump. If he presents himself as a populist with a conservative platform. Why couldnt you vote for him . As of now i dont believe he is i think he has actually told us what he believes and he clearly is not a conservative. He said last week i am a conservative but even if im not, who cares . But his platform will be conservative. What he presents will be conservative. You and i know that a platform doesnt mean a damn thing. What has he been saying and what has he been advocating . Thats what counts. There is a second issue is his fitness for office. Taps matter of temperament and until now he has not impressed me with his temperament. Then you have to compare his temp. With that of Hillary Clinton, do you not . , its different. You have to ask yourself do i want a personal with that temperament to control the Nuclear Codes and as of now i would have to say. No. You know, i know trump. Nice try, bill. Nice try. My problem is that i know trump and i know that he deals he says things out of emotion today with the ted cruz father business. I have got to run the sound bite. Its beyond bizarre. Roll it. His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to ozwald being you know, shot. The whole thing is ridiculous. What is this right prior to his being shot and nobody even brings it up. They dont even talk about that that was reported and nobody talks about it. Donald trump alleges that my dad was involved in assassinating jfk. Now, lets be clear. This is nuts this is not a reasonable position. This is just kooky. And while im at it i guess i should go ahead and admit, yes, my dad killed jfk. He is secretly elvis and jimmy hoffa is buried in his backyard. All right. Now, on the record, the Cruz Campaign denies any association. It came out of a National Enquirer report. But, this stuff doesnt do the Republican Party any good at all. I cede your point there i know trump. He is not he gets emotional then he steps back and its a different guy. Go ahead. Do you believe he thinks that cruzs dad was associated with Lee Harvey Oswald . No. But i believe he puts that out there just to create mayhem and creating mayhem has won the election for him. Has it not . Well, what you are saying is the end justifies the means. Thats what he says. He believes he has to win youre saying i dont care if he is creating mayhem, he won. I dont think thats the right answer. Im not saying that you say okay, i dont want him with the nuclear code. And im saying to you, a lotof e odds of him winning the nomination when he began in june were a million to won and he won it by creating mayhem and it was a brilliant strategy it worked for him. He wins it by floating conspiracy theories that you know and i know are in Twilight Zone land. In the same way he led the birther movement. That wasnt ancient history. That was five years ago. Do you believe that was always a reasonable pursuit . No. It got him attention and it got him the good will of people who dont like president obama. Doesnt that tell you something about the temperament . It tells me wants to win and his playbook is much different than the traditional playbook. Last word saying its not a traditional one is one thing. But playing with absurd and kooky conspiracy theories is way beyond being unconventional it is disturbing. Do you want somebody who does that in control of the Nuclear Codes . All right, charles. Very good discussion. We appreciate it joining us now from long island is a man who might not joe the vote for trump either, republican congressman peter king. So,. Bill. You dont like trump. You dont like cruz, how are you feeling tonight . Well, i dont like cruz. Thats absolutely definite. Farce donald trump, i have no personal feelings for donald trump in fact i have to admit i will say he has donate to do my campaign in the past and Holding Hearings on islamic radicalization. Weas one of the only National People who spoke out in my defense im indebted to him for that i have serious issues with some the outlandish and bizarre statements he has made. John mccain not being a war hero. George bush knowing about 9 11 and allowing it to happen. Bush lying about iraq. Allowing japan and korea to have nuclear weapons. Disengaging in the middle east at the same time saying we have to protect christians there. Seeming to overlook what putin has done as far as his aggression. My main concern is with what has been sort of incoherent Foreign Policy. Having said that listen, is he going to be the no, maam thief the party. Tonight shows that. I want to find a way to be able to work with him. I will support the nominee of the party. All right. So thats interesting. I will vote. Yeah. You have to. He is the nominee. You said you are going to vote for the nominee vow got to vote for trump. Right. Now, your colleagues, in the house, and, you know, you got Lindsey Graham in the senate and they are noting noting two vote for him. Others like that. Do you think that the Republican Party is going to unite and say we may not like donald trump but year going to get behind him because we like Hillary Clinton less . Is that going to happen . That will happen some cases but donald trump is going to have to show that is he serious about Foreign Policy, that he has who are of an idea that he is talking about shown up now. These are serious people talking about. Im not talking about the angry establishment people. I dont care about them. You deal with serious thinkers. People like Lindsey Graham. I dont know what mccain is going to do. Mccain is not going to go to the convention in cleveland. Thats tells you what he is going to do. Pause you know trump before than Charles Krauthammer does. I told charles a lot of what trump has said and done was theaterred that the only way he could win on a million to one shot which is what i think it was last june was to be this bombastic to get the medias attention to drive the narrative in a way that scared off opponents and that has certainly happened. And he played it right down the line and here is he the nominee against all odds. But the real donald trump, the real man isnt quite what he has portrayed himself to be. Do you believe that . Actually, i dont know. I have only met him once or twice. I met his Brother Robert more often. You know him in new york. You know what he has done. Sure in new york. Yeah. People who know him and work with him say is he a very reasonable gli like giuliani. Yeah. Except i think giuliani took policy a lot more seriously. I was with giuliani in the 2008 campaign. And i know how much he studied the