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FOXNEWSW The OReilly Factor June 18, 2016

Following outcry about his remarks senator mccain released a statement saying that, he quote, misspoke but the senator appeared defiant when pressed on the matter later on thursday. If the president had not pulled everybody out of iraq, you would have never seen the rise of isis, so he bears responsibility so i want to be clear. You want me to be clear, im not backtracking on anything, im saying that the president of the United States actions, actions, were responsible because of the full withdrawal of troops from iraq which led then to al qaeda going to syria which led to isis and our failure to have a strategy to destroy isis has led the attacks on the United States of america and europe meanwhile president obama insists the United States is not letting up on campaign against terrorism. We will continue to be relentless against terrorist groups like isil and al qaeda we are going to destroy them. We are going to disrupt their networks and their financing. And the flow of fighters in and out of war theaters. Joining us now to analyze from jacksonville, florida, adam goodman, the Republican Communications expert and from washington, huck, a former senior director for the obama white house. Miss hawk, lets start with you, your white house on john mccain. Took a shot directly at president obama. Seem to do say he misstoke and doubled down later in the day on thursday. Your thoughts . Wow, i think the person most directly responsible for what happened at pulse in orlando quite frankly is the terrorist. Lets start with that who is homophobe bic. Clearly had Mental Health issues and had easy access to an assault weapon and ar 15. If you want to talk about policy failures. The iraq is not in a war that obama started. I highly doubt the American Public wants to see Ground Troops in iraq, syria and afghanistan. But if thats what mccain is suggesting, then i think he should propose sending he should propose an an al alternative instead of blaming obama for National Security failures. Does he want to see american troops in syria. Does he want to see american planes in syria. Congress has full ability to be able to send troops or air planes over there and that is not something that they have done yet. Let me do this before i throw it to you, adam. Clarify a couple things. First of all, ms. Haq, thank you for starting with is he a terrorist. Im not sure what you said the other thing. You called the ar 15 an assault weapon which is not. John mccain was taking a direct shot at president obama. There are a lot who think he was right in that and then there are those who say wait a minute. Were not sure about syrian policy what we should be doing. Maybe mccains idea of what to do in the middle east may not be the right answer, either. Eric, lets start with this. John mccain is a true american hero. And he brings a personal perspective to this argument that i think the president frankly doesnt have. As far as the back and forth, the president is the policy i have just learned from conversations i have had direct whether i federal Law Enforcement officials i have had, eric, going back to the very beginning of the obama administration, there was a directive to scrub training manuals for the fbi to. Scrub them of any references to any groups that may be considered offensive in the world of Political Correctness. One of those terms was radical islamic terrorist. If were north willing to call the threat for what it is, my opinion is, were doing very little to stop it. Umhuh. And ms. Haq, one of the other terms they were told to scrub was jihadist. Too we have a Political Correctness problem at the fbi, do you think . Absolutely not. I think this is, again a red herring approach. Instead of having substantive conversations about tough issues, is to say you are not using this word. You know, on a conservative side. You are not using radical islamist on the liberal side. We should only be talking about gun control. There is a whole bunch of things we need to be talking about but none of that is actually pointing fingers. Its what are you going to do. Do you think president obama actually talked about both . You know he spent a lot of time talking about gun control right after he met with the victims of the terror. Right. The eric, the clip you just played was not just about gun control. It was actually about what the current strategy is for fighting isis, which is eliminating the networks. Cutting off their finances. And finding them using targeted drone strikes. Now, heres the challenge. If we want to do more, if we want to be able to do more militarily, Congress Needs to get involved. That is not something the president can do independently. So i would like to hear from people like john mccain. What would the alternative be to having more Ground Troops in iraq or having more Ground Troops in syria . Adam, honestly, lets eliminate the spin here. What is the alternative . At one point john mccain was questioned as to whether it was the right idea to be with remember the Syrian Rebels, he took some pictures of the Syrian Rebels and people questioned were those same people, did they end up isis fighters . Right. I think thats the conversation, eric, we have to have moving forward. Let me make two points. Number one is while the president reassuring us the last couple days that isis once again was on control and on the run his own cia director brennan said there are no routes used by smugglers more and more utilize to do bring in people into the west, into the United States hole pose threats to us. This is a result, eric, of a Foreign Policy under president obama that has been wavering, tentative and tepid. And i think these what we saw, unfortunately, here in orlando and we are very close to it here in jacksonville the other day is direct result to some degree of a Foreign Policy that hasnt worked. Ms. Haq, this terrorist, held up a gun and said allah akbar. This terrorist contacted the police and said i pledge allegiance to isis and al baghdadi the leader. This terrorist had visited saudi arabia a couple times. This terrorist studied under Anwar Al Awlaki the state imam that the fort hood and San Bernardino terrorist studied under. Why are we constantly pointing fingers at the guns. I will take that in two parts. First the terrorist network and connection of isis and the sad part is as the Arab Coalition and the u. S. Support makes gans in the middle east, isis gets desperate and has called for lone wolf attacks. Are we making gains though . And this is. You heard president obama take gains in the middle east and then we hears a adam points out brennan say maybe not gains. Allow me to finish. Maybe we are not making the gains we should. We have the state department internally saying maybe we are doing things wrong. I think everyone this is gone on far too long with whats happening in syria. Everyone is frustrated. Common accepted facts in intelligence circles as you beat back isis on the ground in syria and iraq, they start to spread to europe and they start to spread to the United States. Thats a separate problem. Is that a gain . Adam is, that a gain if we are pushing them back in iraq and syria yet they are more and more instances of terror right here on the homeland . Eric, just ask anybody who lives in orlando today. The answer to that is no. We dont feel safe. We dont feel secure. We even had the Homeland Security director say recently that the people coming in, they dont really know enough about them to be able to give us assurances. This is a time where we have to open dialogue and conversation as americans to get an answer, and the answer is not being unwilling to call this for what it is,islamic radical terrorism. I think a big part of the answer is now that its coming to american homeland, its not make it easy for people to get ar15s or any other weapons. Oh stop. Absolutely. We had such a nice segment going too. Another segment and another time. Thank you very much. Next on the rundown, does president obama know how to fight the war on terror . There is now a major dissent from state Department Officials and disturbing warning from the head of the cia. Right back with that. Thats life. You diet. You exercise. And if you still need help lowering your blood sugar. This is jardiance. Along with diet and exercise. Jardiance works around the clock. To lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. This can help you lower blood sugar and a1c. 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So talk to your doctor, and for more information, visit jardiance. Com in the impact segment tonight, does the president know how to fight islamic terror. In a stunning move mr. Obama is being fiercely criticized over his syria policy from people from within his own administration. Dozens of u. S. Dingts are breaking ranks with the president calling for air strikes against the syrian government. Richard edge gel, chief Foreign Correspondent is in istanbul this morning. Richard, this seems quite remarkable to have such an open break with the president from his own administration. Have any think it express as deep frustration that is even within the state department about the current u. S. Policy in syria. Dont forget, 400,000 people have been killed in this five year conflict. Well, that follows an amazing contrast between president obama and cia director john brennan over where things stand with isis. Isil is under more pressure than ever before. Isil continues to lose key leaders. Our efforts have not reduced the groups terrorism capability and global reach. The resources needed for terrorism are very modest. And the group would have to suffer even heavier losses on territory, manpower, and money for its terrorist capacity to decline significantly. Joining us now to analyze from washington david, a former state Department Official and with us in studio, ryan morrow of the clarion project. David, you saw it right there, president obama says one thing and john brennan says another. On several occasions with regard to syria. Now within the state department. Some 50 people signed a memo saying our syria policy is all messed up. He doesnt know what he is doing. Well, i dont see an agreement between obama and brennan. Really . You dont see a disagreement . No. There is not a disagreement. President obama says lets bring more refugees and brennan says by the way this Refugee Program isis fighters may actually be coming into that program for one . What president obama is Say Something true. Which is we are making progress against isis in certain aspects. We have taken back territory. We have taken out leaders. We have reduced the number of fighters and we are making an impact on the ground, on the battle front, in iraq and syria. What brennan is saying, that doesnt mean there is still not a terrorist threat. Of course there is fighters can reach us. They are trained to try to do terrorist attacks in europe and the u. S. Even more difficult to combat is these homegrown terrorists who are inspired by isis but may not have had any actual contact with isis like the orlando attacker. Now, i do see a discrepancy between some of the folks who are now calling for air strikes against assad in syria, and the president s stated position. And thats a very interesting development. Lets stay on this for a second. Ryan, if we are fighting back, if isis is losing some gee graphic regions in the middle east, yet, they are stepping up the terror attacks here on the homeland, are we winning . I would say that we are making progress and brennan did say that. But president obama is overselling it. The problem there is that that allows isis to beat expectations. When they beat expectations, and endorsement from allah. We need to change that. Only way you change that is smash their sites in rocca. Smash their sites in capital in da beak. You smash them so hard they wonder why allah. Taking allahs blessing away and win id long call war. Brennan having differences on president obama winning and whether the methods that isis will be attacking us. Also, james comey had differences of opinion with president obama, whether or not were wishing. He said we have over thousand open investigations on home grown terror right here. Yet, president obama, you listen to him, things are going in the right direction. Again, he didnt directly contradict the president. This is a complicated situation. The battle against isis has many fronts. There is the front in iraq and in syria. There is the home front, protecting us from terrorists. There is the capability of shutting them off from social media. So that they cant recruit new forces. And we have to look at each separately. We are making some progress. Where . In iraq. Where . In iraq and in syria. You are talking about progress being made in iraq and syria. You admit we are losing ground here with the homegrown terror going on in the United States. And also. I have not admitted that. Brennan did. Brennan said we have a problem here. He also said we have a problem with what you just pointed out. Brennan did not say we are being. Explosion of people being radicalized here in the United States within. In other words, born here and proximate causing radicalized right here. What brennan said was smart and wise, which is we have to continue to be vigilant here in the u. S. And we have to expect there will be more attacks. That does not contradict the president. We should be doing that . Please, the president is simply saying we are winning and everything is fine. Ryan, im trying to figure out where we are winning. He has a cia director telling us we have problems, fbi director telling us we have problems. 50 people in the state department saying its not working. Who is advising this guy . Here is how you reconcile the two positions, isis is losing territory in ira and syria. Thats very important. As brennan said it has not resulted in the reduction of their terrorist capability. That goes back to the ideology. Thats why its so important to identify the threat as islamism. You are saying you are a football tammy and gaining all yards. Never geght get in the end zone and theyre scoring. Never going to win the game. Incomplete. Very important that you take territory away and you take away that momentum so they cant claim to be successful. If you are not going after the islamic ideology as a hole whole, you will not get at what creates isis. Destroyed isis and replaced by another group. David, i will use the same analogy with you, we are gaining more yards on the football field but they have more touchdowns, they are winning, yet our president and coach says guess what, guys, we are winning. Were not. No, the big prizes in iraq and in syria. Its taking back their strongholds. David, 49 innocent people were killed last weekend. The big prize, theyre winning the big prizes. We arent. We distant stop every attack here, unfortunately. We wish we could. And we especially cannot stop every homegrown terrorist attack when we dont even know that they are sympathizing that isis. That they have connected with isis, and that they are planning to do an attack like this. We need to try and do better. Lets look at the real prize which in iraq and syriaened a taking them out of their strong holds and making prodepress. Have we gotten the touchdown down there no we have not. Can we do a internet job . Yes we have to do a internet job of arming and supporting indigenous forces on the ground in iraq and syria take back cities. I have got to go right now. Gentlemen, thank you solve. New poll shows republicans and democrats see things very differently when it comes to the orlando terror attack. Dana perino will be right here to analyze that just moments away. Everywhere where theres a phone, you have a bank. Now a person is able to start a business, and employ somebody for the first time. The microsoft cloud helped us to bring banking to ten Million People in just two years. Its transforming our world. To be taken care of. In good hands . Like finding new ways home, car, Life Insurance obviously, ohhh. But with added touches you cant get everywhere else, like claim free rewards. 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