America in the last 15 years, more than half of them involved people not born in the United States, many of them who were immigrants or people who had refugee status. And in florida yesterday, donald trump was pressed on the latest wave of attacks to hit europe. Has it caused to you rethink or reevaluate your plans in the United States . You know my plan all along and i have been proven to be right 100 percent correct. Whats happening is disgraceful. An attack on humidity. On humanity. Its got to be stopped. Joining us from washington jim hanson executive Vice President center for Security Policy and from houston, National Security analyst arubio aramis. 100 percent . Is this justification for limiting the number of immigrants, muslim immigrants allowed into the United States or simply saying its not muslims im talking about people coming from countries where there is evidence of islamic terrorism . Is that a fair judgment as its explained to us by thec president elect . Well, it is muslims, but its not all muslims. Lets be perfectly clear. Pew international a Nice Organization polled muslims worldwide and support for violence among the Muslim Population all over hit somewhere north of 20 to 25 . Thats a lot of folks who believe that violence is okay. Now, if you cant vet them and both the fbi director and odni agree that we cannot, then letting them into the country as Angela Merkel did in germany and we have been here is a suicide pact. Its the wrong answer and stopping immigration in some way from areas where jihadists hold sway is a common sense solution. There is no right to immigrate and we have no need to bring refugees here. We can do Better Things for them where they are. All right. So lets go to that point. In fact, jim comey the fbi director said there is no way the fbi and other american agencies can fully vet everyone coming into the country. So, is president elect trump right in saying that after what happened in germany he is looking again at limiting who comes in and employing extreme vetting . We have every right to make sure the peoplec that we let to enter our country are vetted are interviewed and are screened. But heres the big difference between the refugee population that goes to europe and the refuse we dids that try to seek status here in the United States. Europe has land borders with turkey europe has land borders with greece. Europe has land borders with many european countries. They are in the European Union and turkey and people from syria go up to turkey and cross the border. We are talking about millions of people that just cross over the border. In order to come to the United States, as a refugee first and foremost, you have to wait for two years for the United Nations to process you. Hundreds of thousands of applicants failed that. After that you have to go through an fbi screening. Then you have to be interviewed by representatives from the department of defense and interviewed by representatives from Homeland Security and state department interview. Its not as if people will just come here, get off the port of long beach and declare refugee status. I mind you, by the way, refugees and immigrants are not the same thing. You heard gorka, mr. Gorka if i. Sebastian gorka. Sebastian gorka who himself is actually hungarian. We welcome immigrants in this country. I urge to youc go to any Major Research institution in this country go. To stanford, go to harvard. Go to berkeley and yale. Go to princeton and see how many immigrants. I get your point but, mr. Hanson, so, what were hearing from mr. Aramesh is that america is turning its back on its roots as a nation of immigrants. A nation who has always welcomed political refugees. In fact, said we will take in your tired and your poor, statue of liberty. What President Trump is proposing, a new direction for america for the land of immigrants. Absolutely not. I am the grandson of an immigrant. But the people worry talking about who were welcomed by the statue of liberty did not have the destruction of america as their main goal. If you look at people who are sharia compliant muslims, who are coming from areas controlled by jihadis they believe over the population. The somali population in minneapolis was polled and 25 of them believe that sharia should be supreme above the constitution. So thats a different class of immigrants. I think i would point out that the tsarnaev brothers came as asylumcs and the wife San Bernardino she was vetted. Lets see what mr. Aramesh has to say to that. You have to vet. There is no argument there. Having said that when you try mix and paint a huge group of people with the same brush, thats a problem. Let me tell you something, i take this very personally. About 70 years ago when the largest biggest genocide in Human History was going on, a big group of people in this country said do not allow jewish refugees to come here. Year going to have arthur and merrill and thugs and criminals. Guess what . That became a dark spot in our history, america welcomes people. Mr. Hanson, here is the welcome refugees, welcome people who are being oppressed elsewhere fleeing violence as we see in syria. Now he uses this as a point to combat what youre seeing. What do you think, mr. Hanson . I think i would love to bring people who are being oppressed all over the world here. However, when a significant portion of a population outrageously says that they are willing to support violence to overthrow our government or to kill us, and impose islamic law, i dont think we canc take the chance. Thats not the same thing as a group of folks who are coming here simply to flee oppression. Then screen them. We cant. Thats the whole point. We already proved we cant. You can ask questions. You know what . People who come here as refugees have to go through several rounds of interviews. If you are telling me that trained fbi agents, Trained Department of Homeland Security agents, those people cannot get a simple im a lawyer. They are not allowed to. They are not allowed to. Yes you are allowed to. Check the law. Its not just mr. Hanson. Its not just mr. Hanson. This is what jim comey, the fbi director has said. Well, gentlemen, lets go to the news of the day because donald trump had a fascinating tweet today that is setting off sparks around the country. Here it is. The United States must greatly strengthen and expand its Nuclear Capacity until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes. His spokesman came back said he is talking about preventing any future event that someone might perceive the United States to be weak and take action unless we strengthen our Nuclear Capacity. Mr. Hanson, do you agree or should people be alarmed at the idea that donald trump seems toc be taking a sort of a attitude of lets proliferate Nuclear Weapons held by the u. S. A. . The u. S. A. Has Nuclear Weapons. They just happen to be ancient and falling apart. A colleague of mine visited labs and they showed him how they have to cannibalize the weapons to keep them operational. We havent tested them so long we barely have a single scientists in our government who has ever seen or conducted a nuclear test. I dont want some Windows Update give us the blue screen of death rather than an actual working nuke. We need new weapons. We have over 7,000 nuclear war heads. If you dont know about, this let me tell you. The reason i tell you i know this stuff firsthand. I used to work for William Perry the defense secretary and hecker the former director of the Los Alamos National laboratory. Thats where we built our First Nuclear weapon. They both teach at stanford. I used to work for them. We have one of the most up to date Nuclear Arsenals in the world. Wait a second you say one of the most. Donald trump says he wants the best. We have one. We have the best. Thats not true. The russians have surpassed us. He saysc the russians are better. I dont know where you get your fuss but i hope its not breitbart but go online and do factchecking and you will see we have the best military and the most advanced ordnance in the world. Gentlemen, we get the idea. I want to say thank you. Thats an excellent debate. Thank you very much. Next on the rundown, president obama take as parting shot at fox news. Plus, Kellyanne Conway tapped for a big job with donald trump. Dana perino will be here to weigh n just a moment. Its the Phillips Lady anyone ever have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas or bloating . She does. Help defend against those digestive issues. Take Phillips Colon Health probiotic caps daily. With three types of good bacteria. 400 likes . Wow phillips. 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And that applies, by the way, even to some of the folks who are now trump supporsupporters, they are responding to factional character called barack obama who they see on fox news or hear about through rush limbaugh. c quote, compare that to how president george w. Bush responded to his media critics during an interview with bill oreilly in 2010. I spent a lot of time with the media i harbor no resentment to the media by the way. Really even the people who tried to hurt you and called you a criminal . I dont like to be called a criminal. But i think a lot of times the media wer were just transmitting other voices. Here to analyze dana perino my cohost on the five author of fabulous new book let me tell you about scras per which makes a great christmas gift. Can i attest to that. Thank you. I think you were there for that interview with bill oreilly. 2010 a couple years after the president left office and during book tour for decision point. I remember going there and the president hadnt done interviews in the intervening time. He stayed out of the spotlight. He never waivered on that tone just to say im not going to worry negative press that much. He didnt love it but he had a pretty strong stomach for it. We didnt complain about msnbc incessantly at the white house. I think that felt a little bit unnecessary and also, the thing thats amazing now and especially for president obama is the tools that they have at their disposal to talk directly to thec American People are just incredible. So he can reach so many more people than would ever watch fox news with a direct message. Let me say that president obama said theres concentratedville con senconcenf him is that fair. Thats certainly how they see it i think they wish that there was a corresponding leftleaning echo chamber. There really has not been. However that said, liberals in left leaning sort of media, all of hollywood, pop culture, music, entertainment, movies, television, books, its all consumed by the left. Nbc, abc, cbs, you dont think the left has their own. I have a little bit perspective. As a White House Press secretary in the Briefing Room i do believe the reporters that were in that room tried very hard to be fair. Umhuh. But you cannot control editorials or opinions and now you have ability for people to opine in all sorts of different ways. Used to be hard to get an oped placed in a newspaper. Now you put it up on medium and maybe you will get lucky and somebody will tweet about it so many other ways to communicate than even wec had in 2008. What i saw when george w. Bush responded, his critics could be vicious. I remember how vicious they could be especially after the weapons of mass destruction and all the like, it seems to me like he was like, you know what . Im going to take the high road here. Im going to be classy about this. It wasnt just the media okay. Actually, some of the worst things that he was called were done by harry reid, the Senate Majority leader at the time. Who called him, i think it was a liar and a loser. In a time of war, right . So it wasnt just the media who might have given him a hard time. In the aftermath of Donald Trumps election. Umhuh. And the fact that trump used alternatives to get around the media. Um. Um does president obamas message have added import . Is it different than what president bush said about his critics . I dont think well, i actually feel like what president obama said in the atlantic interview in 2016 is similar to things that he said leading up to the election in 2008. So, he has had fox news as a villain from the beginning. And i think i feel like the democrats havent reconciled the reason president obama personally is very popular in the polls. I mean, actually quite remarkable for ac twoterm president to be up where he is. But, they still lost the president ial election. And they are trying to figure out how that can be. How do you reconcile those two things. I think he is hurt and i think he feels given the republican victory not only in the president ial race but holding on to the senate and the gubernatorial races, i think he feels responsible and he is looking for someone to pin the blame on. If he felt responsible then he wouldnt blame fox news. All right. But speaking of fox news, lets take a look here at Kellyanne Conway talking about me. Thats funny. We were talking with Juan Williams earlier and he was questioning well kellyanne has four kids how is she going to do it . He got creamed on twitter. Everybody on twitter was saying why a woman with four kids cant do it and a man can . So what she is going to be working 24 7. I would say to everyone not juan because i dont want him to be creamed but i would say that i dont play golf and i dont have a mistress so i have a lot of time that a lot of these other men dont. Whoa. She doesnt play golf, dana. I loved that response. Her sound bites can really pack a punch. She is right. Has anybody asked today if sean spicer with two Young Children is going to be able to do the press secretary job . No. Nobody asks that. Letc me tell you kellyanne has said to me personally when she was saying that she wouldnt go inside that its going to be very hard with four children and, in fact, i remember liberals were credit eyeing her for standing in the way of women who make that choice by saying kellyanne why are you using the children as a excuse not to go inside . How its the right saying hey Juan Williams why are you mentioning that she has four children . I think she will go into this job eyes wide open. You have limited time on earth and even less time as president of the United States. You want yourself surrounded by the best people. They really get each other. I think she will be a huge asset and net plus for him. She will figure out how to help her family. I think being at the white house will be an amazing experience for the entire family. I think they will find that. I think. So she has just moved to washington. She has a husband. She will get lots of help. She is the first woman, republican or democrat to run a winning campaign. I think she deserves some higher promotion i think this is great news for kellyanne. She deserves more admiration than she is getting from the left. Even if they admire her from afar they have trouble voicing it. She does deserve that respect for sure. We have respect for you, dana. Thank you. Next should donald trump side step the press by staining bigc rally instead . With advil, youll ask what bad knee . What throbbing head . 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On xfinity x1. Donald trump and the press. After nine stop thank you tour across america, the president elect may be set to host more big rallies once he takes office. This is the last time i will be speaking at a rally for maybe a while. You know . Theyre saying as president he shouldnt be doing rallies but i think we should, ri