This is a setback, no two ways about it, but it is not the end of the story because i know that every man and woman in this conference is now motivated more than ever to step up our game, deliver on our promises. Eric meanwhile, President Trump remained optimistic. I work as a team player and would have loved to have seen its past, but i think you know, very clear, wasnt a speech i made where this deal wasnt mentioned that perhaps the best thing that could happen was exactly what happened today because we will end up with a truly Great Health Care healthn the future after this mess known as obamacare explodes. So i want to thank everybody for being here. It will go very smoothly, i really believe. I think this is something, certainly interesting. We all learned a lot. Eric President Trump was also pressed on the impact of the House Freedom caucus on the Health Care Bills failure. Do you feel betrayed by the House Freedom caucus at all . They seem to be the most difficult no, theyre friends of mine, im disappointed. We couldve had it. Im a little surprised commit to be honest with you. We really had it. It was pretty much they are commit within grasp. Eric joining us know with reaction, kentucky senator rand paul who is a close ally of the House Freedom caucus. Senator, do you think the president was indirectly referring to you specifically in this remarks . No, but but i will say, i still have a great deal of optimism that we will come to a repeal of obamacare. Nothing has united republicans more than our desire to repeal obamacare. I think it led to our electoral success taking over the house in 2010, the senate in 2014, white house in 2016. We are not so much united on the replacement part, but i still think it can be worked out. I am hoping that both sides will say, we will continue to talk. I think that President Trump has been very open too many of already is. I just think we didnt have enough time and we set an artificial deadline and instead of saying were going to work until we get this, i dont see my weekend work the week after and the work after, but im going to continue on that and r. Theres some great ideas for replacing it. Eric we watched over the last three weeks, we watch the House Freedom caucus saying, we are not on board yet. Explain to us by we should be . They never got the answers they were looking for. In the aftermath of the failed or pulled both, people will say, its the House Freedom caucus that held out, the reason why we now have obamacare going forward. What do you say to those people. I think the Freedom Caucus wants what all republicans pond, a repeal of obamacare that ultimately lowers the price of insurance for people. If you look at the number one problem of obamacare, its that people in the individual markets go out to buy insurance and the premiums are soaring through the roof. Thats the real problem. Thats why what i promoted as the number one replacement is letting people joint buying groups paid one of the number one unreported stories is that the house of representatives actually passed my replacement version or a similar version fog people join buying groups or coopts to bring prices down for it but i met voicing senator mcconnell and leadership is, that bill should be part of next week. This is a bill that is a big part of replacement. Worshiping that up next week and see how the democrats will respond to that. Eric i want to show our audience a little piece of tape from earlier in the week where you actually went to the House Freedom caucus side, and i guess you were teaching them the art of the deal. Take a look. I brought you all a gift tonight. The art of the deal. I do think that it is important as we go into this that we realize we have enormous power. Actually, you guys have enormous power if you stick together. I put up a quote from the art of the deal that i thought was appropriate. The worst thing that you can possibly do in a deal is to seem desperate. That makes the other guy smell blood, and then you are dead. Eric so the lesson to be learned here, dont accept the first deal, but bring another one . These were Donald Trumps words. Dont be desperate to make a deal. What i would add to that is, we are open to making a deal, and we still are open. Conservatives across the country wants to repeal obamacare. Unfortunately, as the house leadership brought this forward, they brought repeal and replace with obamacare light. Nobody ran on that, and no conservative across the land wants it. We can start over with repeal as a basis and actually some of the ideas, look, i love the fact that speaker brian brightly plans last week. Eric i watched you guys out there saying, lets repeal now, there is bicameral support for repealing obamacare. But what do you do with the people, the 9 million or 10 Million People that are on obamacare . Heres the history of what has happened in the past. Dozens of times, the house of representatives under Republican Leadership has already voted for a clean repeal. Theyve done it dozens of times. In the senate come up with dunnage at least once. What do we do with the people the government is currently providing Health Insurance for . What i want is for everyone of them to be protected by group insurance. I would open it up to every individual to be able to buy a group policy which helps them have leverage. Here is an example. Aarp has over 30 Million People. What if they had one person negotiate prices . They could put prices down. Actually, the house voted this last week. Eric i agree, i think there are some very, very smart things in the replacement, which we were talking about commit the replacement. The interim, this whole legislative calendar getting it agreed upon in the house, going to send us, going to committee, back to the house. What to those people who are hung in the balance due until the replacement is found . Here is part of the interim. Right now, were still debating the repeal. We dont have that. Next week, the interim could be that the senate brings to the floor part of the replacement at the house passed this week. The buying groups paid if the senate would vote on coops and buying groups next week, maybe democrats would say, why would we want to prevent consumers from joining together to get a better price . Why would democrats vote against the aarp being able to negotiate better drug prices and insurance prices . I think it is such a marvelous idea, we should bring it forward next week, and if democrats want help, something that would really bring down costs, then it is shame on them, but we should go ahead and have that vote next week. Eric of got to go. Answer this question though. Donald trump has said, as soon as this is finished, right now, the health care debate, whether it goes further or not or dies, he wanted to go to tax reform rate should trump pivot to tax reform now or try to continue wh health care . The American People still have a desire to hear about health care. Who knows how long. I think legislators can walk and chew gum hopefully at the same time, so why dont we do both . Why dont we set up a special committee eric senator, absolutely. So many people ask, why dont they do both . Why does it have to be one at a time . And heres my suggestion to the white house. Get the Freedom Caucus in there. Could the house leadership in there. Get Senate Leaders in there, and lets have a continuing conversation. It doesnt have to be at the breakneck pace that it has been the last three days, but lets keep talking about it until we work it out. If we are going to talk about taxes simultaneously and move to that before we have the answer, so be it. But you can work both tracks, and whichever one comes to a resolution first, bring it to the floor for a vote. Eric senator, that is a really common sense solution. Thank you very much. Next on the rundown, with got the story behind Todays Health Care drama. Well be right back with that. Try clarispray clarispray provides unsurpassed relief. Its 24 hour, nondrowsy and prescription strength. Free yourself with clarispray, from the makers of claritin. Could save money on car insurance. E in fact, safe drivers who switch from geico to esurance could save hundreds. So if you switch to esurance, saving is a pretty safe bet. Auto and Home Insurance for the modern world. Esurance. An allstate company. Click or call. You found the perfect car foim a robot s. Com yeti rawr jingle bells tents up guys. And used cars. Com to find a place to service it at a fair price, too. Signal, signal hey guys, hows it going . Thats not even music. Now when youre ready, you can sell your old car and find your new one all on cars. Com you know us for shopping, and now were there for every turn. Cars. Com eric and the impact impact segment tonight cannot democrats rejoicing over the fate of the Republican Health care plan. Today is a great day for our country. It is a victory for the American People. I am pleased and hopeful that this step today will be a step toward a continuation of a more perfect union. This is a good day for the American People. Sends a little bit of exuberance on our part, maybe just a little bit, it is on behalf of the American People. Eric President Trump nonturning fire on his democratic opponents in congress. This year should be much worse for obamacare. What would be really good with no democratic support, and its explodes, which it will soon, if they got together with us and got a Real Health Care bill. Id be totally open to it and i think thats going to happen. I think the losers are nancy pelosi and Chuck Schumer because now they own obamacare. They own it. Eric joining us now with more from washington, fox news correspondent kevin corke and from capitol hill fox news chief Congressional Correspondent mike emanuel. Well begin with you, a little bit of really rejoicing on the democratic side. No question about it. Theyve been sitting back and watc fractures on the republican side, and happy to see it fell apart, essentially, right before their very eyes. It was a very tense day here on capitol hill. Statuary hall behind me had a lot of traffic going back and forth to the house floor, the leadership offices, trying to cut a deal. They needed 210 or 215 votes or so, one of the Committee Chairman involved in this effort said they got to about 200, and we were hearing they thought they were trending in the right direction, but we were also hearing that they thought the final few votes would be the hardest to get. And so paul ryan went up to the white house and said, we are falling short. The president called it quits. Vice president mike pence kim met down here to capitol hill to meet with house conservatives to try to get a few more votes, but came out of the meeting and said, we are still no, and bottomline, rather than suffer an epic defeat, they decided just to pull it down and have no vote today. Eric when ryan went to the white house, he came out and had that press conference very quickly and said, i suggested we pull the bill. Was it his idea or was it trumps idea . I think they are two ways to look at this, if you are looking at winners and losers, i think the short term is, it is speaker ryan. In general, i think there was an expectation that somehow he would be able to get this over the finish line. Long term though, i think the president may not end up being the bad guy here. At least politically speaking great let me explain. I know speaker ryan came out and said, listen, i went to the president , i asked him to pull the spell. But longterm, keep this in mind. If obamacare somehow folds, falls apart, or in any way shape form, or fashion, doesnt live up to the promise that it made, that could be a net positive, not just for the president but the party. Speaker ryan had to fall on the sword and came here to do just that. Spohn mike, we heard President Trump came out and mike come out and say come i want to know where this is going to become a going to pass this on to the senate floor or not, and he pushed. Today, he didnt get his vote. The feeling from the congressional side . Folks here capitol hill give the president a lot of credit for meetings, a lot of lawmakers that had never been to the white house before for a facetoface meeting with the president of the United States, he worked it, he was on the phone at all hours, he sent his top aides appeared last night around this time, we had reince priebus, bannon, kellyanne conway, we had mick mulvaney, the budget director. Today we had the Vice President appear. It was a full court press. They gave everything they had. But bottom line, you had some conservatives who had their concerns paid once it was called obamacare lite, hard to get them on board paid you had some moderates come out leonard lance, my hometown, he said some of these policies are popular, i cant just vote to scrap it all. He had a conservative problem and a moderate problem in the rear left complexities. Still and that was going on in the halls of congress, at 1600 pennsylvania avenue, was there a sense that this was going to go down, around here, felt for a couple of days now that those folks werent lined up and thisd still either go down or be dela. No question, i think a lot of people here were hopeful. You may have watched the press briefing this afternoon and you heard sean spicer, hey, whoa, take it easy, lets not be so negative. Lets not kid ourselves. I think the entire room and frankly the entire journalism world felt the thing was going to down. They were hopeful, as mike pointed out. They were furiously trying to make a rally for the last commit segment ten votes. They didnt have them. And i had that sense and i think the folks in the west wing had that sense. Eric i dont mean to interrupt you, but from this standpoint, you watch these may watch the press briefings, you watch the demeanor, and you can see, there is a certain hop in his step and things are going good and a little bit less when theyre not going good. Ive got to tell you, you havent seen that for a couple of days there. I think tax reform cannot guys cannot will be a completely different story. Very quickly, this is one of those things where it moderates and they cannot lets call them the Freedom Caucus, they can both wrap their arms around. Absolutely, republicans want to do tax reform, they feel like the president , as a businessman, has a very good case to make for tax reform, he understands the tax Code Red Health care policy is very complicated. There are few people here on capitol hill and all the complexity of it. Some of them had joined the president s team, so there was hope they could bring it across the finish line. Bottom line, there were a lot of different ideas about how you replace it, and it didnt get done. Eric going to have to leave it there. It there. Thank you thank you both. Up next on the factor special, critics overjoyed after todays failed health care vote, but jeopardy like they claim . Stay tuned. music plays heigh ho heigh ho heigh ho heigh ho its off to work we go heres to all of you early risers, whats up man . Gogetters, and shouldbe sleepers. From all of us at delta, because the ones who truly change the world, are the ones who cant wait to get out in it. Born in the personal story segmented, critics are coming Todays Health Care bill failure is a major loss for President Trump, but could it actually turned into a win for his agenda . Joining us to analyze, adriana cohen, columnist for the boston herald, and with us in studio, democratic strategists jessica tarlov. Im going to make it a declaratory comment and you tell me where im wrong. A win for donald trump and a win for america. No. Its a win for america, its not a win for donald trump. Today, 24 million americans got to keep their Health Insurance, and you know i dont care obamacare is perfect, and i hope this will be an opportunity for democrats and republicans to Work Together on smart fixes for that, but donald trump come up begrudgingly, it did take a while, threws capital behind this. He went to the Freedom Caucus and tried to bully them into backing him, he walked out, singled out mark meadows and said, were going to get this done, right . Didnt end up able to do that. I dont think it is a win, im waiting for his tweet. Eric adriana, lets put it this way, if this made it into law law and of 2020, President Trump is winning reelection, and premiums are higher because the group that put this bill together never thought of the higher premiums in 2020, you could make a case that this failure is a win for trump. I definitely think it is a win for donald trump for precisely the reason you just stated. If premiums are high, just as high as obamacare or worse, that could cost him the election cannot certainly cost republicans the elections in the midterm. And then also, we know from last time around the cbo scoring ended up being wrong, off by 120 . This time around when the republicans say, oh, were going to bring costs down, how do we know that is going to be true . This could have hurt him later on, which pointed out. Also, i think it is good for him to pivot now to areas where he can win like tax and regulatory reform. Revising doddfrank, renegotiating nafta, those are all areas that will be enormously successful for him and for the American People. I think he should pivot to areas that are really going to benefit the middle class. He should definitely pivot. Eric let me ask yo