Talking points is on. Also ahead, Dennis Miller on china. An ambassador john bull on whether president obama will be dragged into the rice story. Caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone, the factor begins right now. Hi, im bill oreilly. Thanks for watching us tonight. A few powerful people in washington really want to know the truth and . That is the subject of tonights talking points. Remember that the irs was accused of auditing some conservative groups for political reasons. That is illegal. The woman in charge of the office that allegedly happened was lois lerner. She was called to testify in front of a congressional committee. She took the fifth. While i would very much like to answer the communitys questions today, ive been advised by my counsel to assert my constitutional right not to testify or answer questions related to the subject matter of this hearing. Bill after that, ms. Lerner packed up and left the irs with a nice government pension. Absolutely Nothing Happened to her. And we never learned if higher government officials were involved in that irs scandal. However, we did learn this. When i asked president obama about the situation. Youre saying no corruption. And there some boneheaded decisions. Bill but no corruption. Not even mass corruption, not even a smidgen of corruption. Bill believes the Obama Administration did not want to know what happened with the irs. The leftwing media did not want to know nor did the Democratic Party. And we dont know. So today, we have two big time political allegations. Whether the Trump Campaign colluded with russia and whether National Security advisor susan rice was spying on the Trump Campaign and Transition Team using her position with president obama in the white house to surveilled and hurt donald trump. Answers to both of those questions have not been provided to the American People as they must be if we are to keep our election system legitimate. The fbis investigating the russian deal. Im not sure where the agency is only illegal surveillance issue. The borough has not defined it. The congress is looking into ms. Rice. Ive asked the Intelligence Community to conduct a bipartisan investigation of this whole episode whom. They will conduct it. Hopefully at the end well find out what happened and ill issue a report i hope on a bipartisan basis. Not likely. As democrats and the liberal media have already quitted susan rice. One of the central figures the replicants went after and after was susan rice. After two years, they can find nothing that susan rice did wrong. Bill congressmen, raking member of the House Intelligence Committee speaking about mrs. Rices role in benghazi investigation including the opinion that shes a scapegoat even before any testimony is heard. This congressman really wanted know what happened in the surveillance deal . You make the call. Its obvious his fellow travelers on the left do not want to know, the loons are now burning the whole thing racial. Did she do something wrong . Theres no information indicating that so they are making her basically defaming her without any reason to do so because shes a woman, maybe because shes a black woman. Bill as talking points said yesterday, susan rice is entitled to the perception of innocence and should be called by congress to testify as soon as possible. But with easter break looming, that call will be down the road. At that time, i expect ms. Rice to take the fifth just as lois lerner did. That means others in government will have to step forward to testify about what susan rice did or did not do in order for we the people to know. Today, President Trump said the surveilled situation is going to be the biggest story, such an important story for our country and the world, one of the biggest stories of our time for it its clear the president has a vested interest in this having tweeted he was surveilled by president obama himself. Obviously mr. Trump would like to know what happened. But the antitrump folks would try to prevented some light on susan rice, theres no doubt about that. If the former National Security advisor was using her very high office to help the Democratic Party before and after the election of, thats a huge scandal. President obama will have to be questions of that. Thats a big if, premature conclusions as long as speculations are the enemies of truth and justice. The polls say most americans want answers to the russian intrusion into the president ial election and i believe most of us want to know the whole susan rice story as well. The federal government cannot define both situations fairly quickly, this nation is a major trouble. America simply has to have a Justice System that works. And thats a memo. Next time on rundown reaction, President Trump threatening syria. Which of the usa do to that country for using poison gas and . Those reports after these messages. Bill powerful politicians even want to know the truth about important things affecting the American People. With us here. On the susan rice front, the democrats dont want to know anything about this and the press doesnt want to know anything about it either. I think that in a sense, by concentrating on the left and susan rice and the allegations by donald trump of unmasking and leaks and so forth, you are absolutely half right. The other half is the right is trying its best and certainly the Trump Administration bill let me stop you. To obscure the russian investigation. Lets put that aside for once. Bannon can put either of them inside. Bill hes a republican, thats what he does. You stay on your leftwing friends. This is a pretty interesting story as an Investigative Reporter yourself and i am as well. This is a really interesting story, is it not . I dont need to be tiresome but i think theyre both interesting goals. Bill i believe that susan rice, the circumstances leading up to her admission of unmasking is intriguing and it could hint at her being one of the prime sources of the leaks that have so worked. Even more than that, what i find fascinating about this story and im the biggest guy. I said last night, perception of innocence has to be applied and i said it again tonight. Why did she do it . She didnt do it on her own. Susan rice doesnt do stuff on her own. And she was third close to president obama. First is valerie. Let me take my assignment. Bill is the fascination of the story. If you have a situation where an extremely hostile republican candidate is not only running to be president of the United States but is also doing everything he can to disparage the 44th president of, the Obama Presidency and the amada administration of course youd want to now and have the intelligence people saying these people colluded with the russians them. Bill i want to get dirt on him. But they definitely want to get dirt. Bill thats not her role. Thats not what she supposed to do. Shes not supposed to do that. Its go to you. Because you are very big on this rice story. I almost said. Bill u, eric bolling, that big on the russian collusion . Geraldo, great question. What russian collusion . What we do have on rice is a felony. A felony was committed, point blank. [all talking at once] once it was linked to the media, somebody committed a felony. Im not saying rice did, but so many did. I said on the one hand in the right field. On the russian collusion, theres no proof of that. I dont care about the proof. You should. I dont because is not my job and its impossible for me to get it. What i care about is your intent. Are you as intense as getting the truth about the russian collusion story which we dont know yet, youre obsolete right. No evidence has been presented. So the other leftwing media thats already convicted trump and his associates, thats disgraceful. But as you eric bolling as jazz to get this information as you are about the rice story . Of course. If theres a link and theres improve of collusion, of course you want to know who did it and why. On other side Michael Flynns game is out in public. Somehow that went to mast to unmask that by the way, it was unmasked by an white house operative who shouldnt be investigating anything. It its it a point that my client was forced to resign because of of his shady dealings with the russians to mexico his name being leaked. Bill he wasnt upfront with pence but thats a different issue. The issue now is the truth about the two situations. Let me recap because its hard to really figure these two out. You say that you want to know what susan rice did or did not do. You say that. I do say it and the reason i say it is her motive is everything in this case. In other words, it is not a crime to unmask someones name if you are working with intelligence. Its what you do with you. Its why what you do with it. If she disseminated that name to someone wasnt clear for political purpose. Anybody wasnt clear. Now you claim on this program that you are as interested to know if there were trump people colluding with the russians to influence the election right . Yes. So youre both on good ground here because what im trying to get at is i dont believe congress i think both parties want to protect their own, would you both agree with that . Both parties want to protect their own . Clear and disheartening. As absolutely true. They said we must depend on be honest people and im including rivero and bowling in this, god help me. We honest people must depend on the fbi. The fbi is the agency. But thats it. We dont know if the fbi is investigating susan rice, do we . We dont know but how is this . It gets even bigger. Who else is going to be unmasked and leaked. What other parties are involved now, not just Michael Flynn or the five other trump operatives, does this go beyond that . How did we ever find that out without the fbi . Here is you find it out. Not the senate, not the house, the fbi presents his case to the department of justice and a grand jury has amazing power. Speak with you, geraldo rivera, are calling for a grand jury to investigate the susan rice situation tonight on the factor. Not only my calling for a grand jury, i am confident that the combination of james tomey and attorney general Jeff Sessions to the extent that he cant participate because he has reduced himself. The process will what National Security threat or interest was involved in susan rice a white house operatives overwriting the fbi, the cii, and the who said we will keep these names mast . We cant answer that question . You answered it. Its politics and only politics. That is an exclusion that the grand jury will reach and you should too. Bill we need to get him on the jury. Thank you very much great as always, directly ahead of senator Lindsey Graham says he believes the susan rice situation will be easy to figure out. Senator will be here. President trump threatening syria because a country is using poison gas on children. What should mr. Trump to to the heinous dictator assad . The factors coming right back. At crowne plaza we know Business Travel isnt just business. Theres this. a bit of this. Why not . Your hotel should make it easy to do all the things you do. Which is what we do. Crowne plaza. Were all business, mostly. Bill the followup segment tonight. This sound bite on susan rice caught my attention. Im not going to prejudge here but i think every american should know whether or not the National Security advisor of president obama was involved in unmasking trump transition figures for political purposes, it should be easy to figure out and we will. Bill joining us now, do you really believe its going to be easy to figure this out . Might be hard to have consequences, but to be easy to figure out. John brennan and clapper are as cia Directors National intelligence need to be asked the following question. Did susan rice ever make the request of your agencies or the nsa to have unmasking of any trump transition figures that were surveilled . Then you go and ask the rally question, what say you if she did . What committee should do that in the senate . Good question. This is where its confusing. You have brennan and klapper under the jurisdiction of the Intelligence Committee but ive made a request of the judiciary Sub Committee for klapper. Sally yates, for our committee and testify in public, well see if we can do that. Bill and can you compel them to come to your committee . Can you compel them to do it . They only want to come once. In the testify once in an open hearing, once in a closed session. That got to cordate this with the Intelligence Committee to find out whos in charge. Sally yates was in the Justice Department so shes under the Judiciary Committee jurisdiction, the other two are probably on the intel jurisdiction. But my committee is ready to move forward with public testimony of Brandon Klapper and yates and i would ask brendan klapper to susan rice ever come to any of your organizations and ask that names be unmasked . Bill and thats a simple question yes or no. Now we assume that when ambassador rice gets called before any congressional committee, the house is investigating to come shes going to take the fifth just like lois lerner did. Id be surprised. She said she did nothing wrong but were trying to build the case here i suppose. Just in the oldfashioned way. The people in charge of the collection need to be asked if susan rice ever asked for anything you collected to be on masse and if she did, what did she do with it . And if she takes the fist, that would be stunning. Bill why would it be stunning though . Dont you feel shes in a precarious position right now and go to for that her attorneys are going to say listen, theres a lot of implications here and there are a lot of laws here, and you might be trapped a person like that. It might be easier for you to plead the fifth. You think any attorney would tell her that . Bill its kind of inconsistent with what she said. She said she did nothing wrong but ive been a lawyer. Maybe i tell my client i have an abundance of caution. Dont answer any of these questions. I dont pretend to be a legal expert on masking im going to try to find out what the rules are and are they crimes. Is it important enough for the country to give meeting to get to the bottom of this . Its a story that is now politicized, you know that. Your democratic colleagues in the senate dont want any part of this. To back will see. Theyve been really good. I want to hear from brandon and klapper about potential trump ties. He said there is no evidence. Bill i understand. Dont you think the senate is about as polarized as youve ever seen in your career right now . Absolutely. Bill of the gorsuch thing is going to come down, youre going to have to change the rules in the senate to vote him in. Youre not going to get a few senders on the democratic side support. But its basically run by Chuck Schumer now. And schumer is going to say were going to post everything donald trump does to try to portray a president who is too weak to govern. You know the strategy. Were still in charge of the plates so as people in charge of the place, we can conduct hearings and i dont think its inappropriate to ask the question of the Intelligence Community. Bill of course its not. The American People need to know. If the Obama White House and not the president himself but one of his top aides was using her position to advance a political agenda because thats what this is all about. Shes not taking an interest in the trump people for any other reason than politics. It is no other reason on the planet. If she did it, that would be a logical conclusion. What are they going to do to me if i do my job . Nothing. My job is to find out what happened all things russia and a part of this all things russia is that the National Security advisor to president obama was actually unmasking trump transition figures for political purposes before the election and, pump the electron Campaign People i want to know that. Bill the whole country wants it. Dont have a political agenda want to know. The Democratic Party certainly wants to protect the Obama Administration and susan rice and theyre going to do everything they can and the medias money parts of the story. Too bad. You dont always get what you want, thats what the Rolling Stones say. Bill so you say youre going to get to the bottom of it, your confidence with all of the slowest lerner stuff in benghazi stuff and all that, going to get at the bottom of this . The questions regarding susan rice and ive been pretty honest about this on the trump side. I said i want to know, where there trump ties to russia before the election . Bill and think everybody wants to know that. I dont think theres any doubt about that. Youre deeply involved with foreign affairs. President trump once again today said hes not going to say what hes going to do because you dont tell the enemy what youre going to do because it gives them time to prepare, the enemy being syria and assad. Obama didnt do anything to him, trump almost has to do something. If you are the National Security advisor for the senate, what would you tell donald trump specifically to do syria . Destroy their power and create a safe zone in syria where this never happens again. Bill by destroying it, would have