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FOXNEWSW The Real Story With Gretchen Carlson October 28, 2013

Hope you had a fantastic weekend. Welcome to the real story. Obama care has a new problem. One that shutdown online enrollment in all 50 states. It happened yesterday when a data Center Critical for allowing americans to buy coverage simply went down. This comes amid new calls for the president to get rid of health and Human Services secretary Kathleen Sebelius just days away from her testimony before congress. Wende wendell live at the white house. Reporter there are going to be tough questions for secretary sebelius when she testifies before a House Committee on wednesday. Sundays shutdown came just a few days after she assured reporters that the online experience was getting better. Hhs Officials Say a verizon data hub went down. Its supposed to be back up now, but white house officials admit the system is still not operating as it should. A couple of Democratic Senators say the websites problems are reason enough to delay the requirement that people who can afford Health Insurance buy it next year. New hampshire senator gene shaheen wants a couple months delay. Joe manchin wants the delay for all of next year. Meanwhile, Kaiser Health says hundreds of thousands of people have been sent cancellation notices by their Insurance Companies which is ammunition for the critics who challenged the president s promise if you like your insurance, you can keep it. Blue cross Officials Say their subscribers are being offered different and in some cases better plans since starting in january the Affordable Care act requires plans to include more coverage. Senator tom coburn says that still makes them more expensive. Most people dont work for large corporations that are selffunded and run a program. Most of them work for Small Businesses who are buying Insurance Market in the small markets. Theyre going to lose coverage or their employers are going to pay an enormous price increase to be able to do it. Reporter White House Press secretary jay carney, who is briefing now, says the Affordable Care act requirement that insurance plans cover things like Maternity Care and that they have no cap on lifetime expenses is what makes them more expensive. Carney says many people will have better insurance or less cost and in some cases people whose cost goes up will receive government tax subsidies that actually reduce what they finally pay. Gretchen . Wendell, thanks so much for providing a lot of those answers for us. Speaking of the obama care website, now you see her, now you dont. The smiling young woman featured on obama cares website, guess what . Shes gone now. Scrubbed out in an apparent web doover. In her place, the far less eye catching quartet of really brilliant icons. To sign up for obama care. The identity of the woman remains a big secret. Hard to believe since most people in washington can never keep a secret. Theres some speculation she was scrubbed from the site to keep her safe after she became the target of heated criticism of the site in social media. So we want to hear from you. What do you think happened to the young woman on the obama care website . Tweet us using therealstory. My facebook question of the day as well. Head over there. Weigh in. Well read your tweets and emails and facebook posts at the end of the show. Meantime, the hits from fugitive leaker Edward Snowden keep oncoming, leaving the white house in damage control. The Obama Administration sending off reports now that president obama knew that the nsa was eavesdropping on german chancellor Angela Merkels personal phone calls. This as we hear of another bombshell. The nsa reportedly monitored 60 million phone calls made in spain in just a single month. Heres jay carney just a few moments ago talking about that scandal. Was the president kept out of the loop about what the nsa was doing . Josh, what i can tell you is two things. Ibz first, im not going to get into details of internal discussions. But the president clearly feels strongly about making sure that we are not just collecting information because we can, we do not and will not monitor the chancellors communications. Todays world is highly interconnected. And the flow of large amounts of data is unprecedented. Innovation is going to continue. If were going to keep our citizens and our allies safe, we have to continue to stay ahead of these changes. Fox news digital politics editor, host of power play, joins me now. He used a favorite word of mine. Executive producer jen williams, this is juicy stuff, chris, right . Its discomforting stuff as you think about the relationship between the United States and germany is crucial. Arguably our second most important ally. Nato, european power house. Here we are having this very, very delicate and difficult, very public discussion. It makes Angela Merkel look bad. It makes the president look bad. But at home, theres a real theres a real concern as it relates to what did president obama know and when did he know it . Yeah. And neither of the answers are particularly good. Are we to believe as americans that the president of the United States did not know that we were listening in on chancellor merkels phone calls for five years . And that he found out yet again about this story when he read about it in the news . Well, we better hope thats not true. We better hope that the background document that the white house put out, leaked out, it seems, to the wall street journal is false. And that it is a lie. What they hold is that the president had no knowledge of one of his closest allies, the leaders of one of our nations closest allies, being spied upon. And that he didnt approve it and he didnt authorize it. Because if its the truth, much more dangerous and much more chilling possibility would be that we have a National Security apparatus that can spy on allies, including very important ones, without the issay so of t president. Lets just hope that spin and talking point is trying to protect the president. Otherwise we have a much bigger problem on our hands. Chilling being the operative word there. Chris stirewalt, thanks for your time. You bet. New Mainstream Media outrage now over the benghazi terror attack. But its certainly not new for you out there, our viewers. Because the wrenching report on 60 minutes last night was information fox uncovered months ago. I made it known as a meeting, you were going to get attacked. You were going to get attacked in benghazi. Its going to happen. You need to change wroyour secuy profile. Joining me now, k. T. Mcfarland, fox news National Security analyst. When i watched this report last night i thought, well, about time. Here we go. The Mainstream Media asking very critical questions. What was your analysis . A couple of things. First of all, the Mainstream Media has missed every opportunity, in fact, has gone in the other direction in looking at any critical analysis of this Administration Whether its obama care, whether its benghazi, whether its al qaeda. Whatever it is, this administration bears no blame. I was in the whut house during watergate. I remember that question. What did the president know and when did he know it . It doomed the nixon presidency. Yet no one in the media is asking that question. The second thing, though, is about benghazi. Really about the entire middle east. Its as if the administration has al qaeda blindness. And its a willful blindness. They did not believe that al qaeda was still a threat so therefore when they had warnings prior to the al qaeda attack, prior to the benghazi attack, they ignored them. They didnt beef up security. They didnt rescue. After the fact, they still havent gone in the big question, though, is why . Because in this report last night, you had the security analyst saying that the al qaeda flags were flying five months before this attack in benghazi. And dont you remember before the election that one of the Campaign Slogans for president obama was bin laden is dead and al qaeda is on the run. If you have all these requests for more security, could it be that this was all about an election . Sure it was. It was all about an election. Remember, when did it happen . It happened just a month before the election. Once the administration had determined that ben lin laden w dead and al qaeda was on the run, they were not going to acknowledge even in their own heads that al qaeda still presented a threat. It wasnt just the black flags of al qaeda flying. It was the fact that there was a Defense Department report, a report from the Defense Department saying al qaeda is setting up a cell in benghazi. Watch out. The repeated requests from the people in the embassy. We need more security. It fell on deaf and blind ears. So if it was about the election, now were postelection. Right. So why would the administration continue to allow al qaeda to become stronger in egypt, syria, iraq, afghanistan . I mean, its one thing to be blinded before an election. Right. But its a whole nother thing to have the legacy now of president obama be to be blinded about al qaeda . Your thoughts. Yeah. As far as the legacy youre absolutely right. They remain blinded about al qaeda. Why . If they admit it, then theyd have to go back and say we really did make a big mistake on benghazi. Theyre not about to admit that. Hes looking for a very different legacy. The legacy he wants is an arms control deal with the iranians at almost any price. The iranians want to have the sanctions lifted. They want to have nuclear weapons. Whether the administration goes along with okay, you know, the report is that its going to be a year away before al qaeda i mean, before Iran Gets Nuclear weapons, now we find out maybe its even a month. Thats the legacy hes looking for. Not al qaeda. He got bin laden. That was the first term. Second term he wants to deal with iran. K. T. Mcfarland, expert on this topic, thank you so much. An alert for you right now. Police setting up a perimeter around a Movie Theater this afternoon. Raleigh, North Carolina, after an attempted robbery in the area. Look at that video. The suspect was subdued. Here he is lying face down on the roof. More on that story as it continues to come into fox. In the meantime, now that the Mainstream Media is catching up to the outrage over benghazi, what does it mean for Hillary Clintons political future . We debate. Fair and balanced, next. Plus, the search is on for four prisoners on the run. How they pulled off an escape right out of the movies and what investigators are saying now. A School District giving the green light for teachers to pack heat. In the classroom. Where this decision is stirring a lot of hot debate, today. Right back. The constitution says that we can all carry weapons. We dont have to, but we can all carry weapons. So this vote was to allow people to carry weapons. Those teachers that or staff and volunteers should have the same rights as those that citizens that could walk on our school currently with concealed weapons permit should have them. Before the last grandchild. Before the first grandchild. Smile. Before katie, debbie, kevin and brad. There was a connection that started it all and made the future the wonderful thing it turned out to be. At bank of america, we know were not the center of your life, but well do our best to help you connect to what is. [ female announcer ] with five perfectly sweetened whole grains. You cant help but see the good. Ive got a big date, but my sinuses are acting up. Its time for advil cold and sinus. [ male announcer ] truth is that wont relieve all your symptoms. New alka seltzer plusd relieves more sinus symptoms than any other behind the counter liquid gel. Oh what a relief it is. Fox news alert for you now. Weve just heard from the Chickasaw Police department that two out of the four prisoners, theyve been caught after escapes from a prison shower in oklahoma. They were spotted outside wearing orange jump suits before they disappeared. Two others still on the loose. Now that the Mainstream Media is jumping on the benghazi out rage band wagon, what does it mean for former secretary of state Hillary Clintons political future . As you recall, she was the secretary of state at the time of the deadly terror attack. And heres how she responded when questioned about it at a hearing a few months later. The fact is, we have four dead americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided theyd go kill some americans . What difference at this point does it make . Joining me now, julie ra begin ski, Fox News Contributor a and lars larson, syndicated talk toe host. What difference does it make, lars . How do you run for president of the United States when you have your own incompetence to blame as secretary of state for the deaths of four americans . Murdered in benghazi when you had every reason to know that their security was inadequate, as we saw in the interview with some of the security that were on the ground at the time. They warned the state department. The state department didnt want to hear those warnings. I have a feeling it was largely political. And then the fact that she dodged interviews by the congress for so long. When she finally showed up, she says what difference does it make . How do you avoid having americans killed in the future if you dont figure out the incompetence that got americans killed before . Julie, this story, it appears, is not going away. Now the Mainstream Media looking into it after more than a year. So does this have any kind of political ramifications for Hillary Clinton if she decides to run for president . Well, it remains to be seen. But i will say this. And i say this actually in a nonpartisan way. Look, when people attacked george bush for the attacks of 9 11 saying he should have known. He got a report. I said, you know what . Thats horrible. Its disingenuous. Youre essentially implying the president of the United States allowed and stood back and allowed these horrible attacks to happen. The same thing is the implication here. Youre essentially implying that Hillary Clinton voluntarily stood back and allowed four americans to be murdered. I think lets take politics out of this for a second. This is a horrible, horrible tragedy. Yeah. We need to get to the bottom of what happened. Lets not politicize it. Im not sure thats exactly the exact analogy. Of course it is. Its not. Heres a transcript from the interview last night. The reporter said in that environment you were asking for more security assets and you were not getting them . Greg hicks says, thats right. She says, did you fight that . He says, i was in the process of trying to frame a third request but it was not allowed to go forward. Lars, is it the same or different . Its different. Heres why. In august of that year, 2001, the nsa, then secretary rice not secretary rice, but dr. Rice, said there is some kind of threat coming from al qaeda that might involve airplanes somewhere, sometime. That was very nonspecific. This was a specific threat message from our own people on the ground who said, we have inadequate security. We have security locally hired that has promised to run away if attacked. Which is exactly what they did that night. Right. Theres a difference between a specific Security Threat that could have been answered with Additional Resources and a nonspecific threat like august of 2011. Will Hillary Clinton have to answer this question successfully to be able to run for president. She has to address this issue. It permeates the public consciousness about her. Lets not forget, this is not to minimize what happened in benghazi, obviously a horrific tragedy from everybody involved. But from a purely political standpoint, Hillary Clintons Approval Ratings have not seemed to suffer over this. True. In fact, right now Hillary Clinton is the frontrunner regardless of if she runs again. Its been interesting to see as we get closer. Got to move on to the next topic. Surprise, surprise. Obama care. It has to do with the fact former treasury secretary under bill clinton has now said that actually, lars, its republicans fault that this whole thing is not working. Your thoughts . No. Its not republicans fault. The democrats say they wanted to have single payer. Republicans said no, it has to involve the private sector. So the government jumped into the private sector and look what the result is. A 600 million website that doesnt work. And Health Care Costs that are rising dramatically. And the Insurance Companies point the finger blame right where it belongs. At the governments actions in the marketplace. Heres what he says. So why are todays republicans so upset with an act they designed and their patrons adore . Because its the signature achievement of the Center Critical<\/a> for allowing americans to buy coverage simply went down. This comes amid new calls for the president to get rid of health and Human Services<\/a> secretary Kathleen Sebelius<\/a> just days away from her testimony before congress. Wende wendell live at the white house. Reporter there are going to be tough questions for secretary sebelius when she testifies before a House Committee<\/a> on wednesday. Sundays shutdown came just a few days after she assured reporters that the online experience was getting better. Hhs Officials Say<\/a> a verizon data hub went down. Its supposed to be back up now, but white house officials admit the system is still not operating as it should. A couple of Democratic Senators<\/a> say the websites problems are reason enough to delay the requirement that people who can afford Health Insurance<\/a> buy it next year. New hampshire senator gene shaheen wants a couple months delay. Joe manchin wants the delay for all of next year. Meanwhile, Kaiser Health<\/a> says hundreds of thousands of people have been sent cancellation notices by their Insurance Companies<\/a> which is ammunition for the critics who challenged the president s promise if you like your insurance, you can keep it. Blue cross Officials Say<\/a> their subscribers are being offered different and in some cases better plans since starting in january the Affordable Care<\/a> act requires plans to include more coverage. Senator tom coburn says that still makes them more expensive. Most people dont work for large corporations that are selffunded and run a program. Most of them work for Small Businesses<\/a> who are buying Insurance Market<\/a> in the small markets. Theyre going to lose coverage or their employers are going to pay an enormous price increase to be able to do it. Reporter White House Press<\/a> secretary jay carney, who is briefing now, says the Affordable Care<\/a> act requirement that insurance plans cover things like Maternity Care<\/a> and that they have no cap on lifetime expenses is what makes them more expensive. Carney says many people will have better insurance or less cost and in some cases people whose cost goes up will receive government tax subsidies that actually reduce what they finally pay. Gretchen . Wendell, thanks so much for providing a lot of those answers for us. Speaking of the obama care website, now you see her, now you dont. The smiling young woman featured on obama cares website, guess what . Shes gone now. Scrubbed out in an apparent web doover. In her place, the far less eye catching quartet of really brilliant icons. To sign up for obama care. The identity of the woman remains a big secret. Hard to believe since most people in washington can never keep a secret. Theres some speculation she was scrubbed from the site to keep her safe after she became the target of heated criticism of the site in social media. So we want to hear from you. What do you think happened to the young woman on the obama care website . Tweet us using therealstory. My facebook question of the day as well. Head over there. Weigh in. Well read your tweets and emails and facebook posts at the end of the show. Meantime, the hits from fugitive leaker Edward Snowden<\/a> keep oncoming, leaving the white house in damage control. The Obama Administration<\/a> sending off reports now that president obama knew that the nsa was eavesdropping on german chancellor Angela Merkels<\/a> personal phone calls. This as we hear of another bombshell. The nsa reportedly monitored 60 million phone calls made in spain in just a single month. Heres jay carney just a few moments ago talking about that scandal. Was the president kept out of the loop about what the nsa was doing . Josh, what i can tell you is two things. Ibz first, im not going to get into details of internal discussions. But the president clearly feels strongly about making sure that we are not just collecting information because we can, we do not and will not monitor the chancellors communications. Todays world is highly interconnected. And the flow of large amounts of data is unprecedented. Innovation is going to continue. If were going to keep our citizens and our allies safe, we have to continue to stay ahead of these changes. Fox news digital politics editor, host of power play, joins me now. He used a favorite word of mine. Executive producer jen williams, this is juicy stuff, chris, right . Its discomforting stuff as you think about the relationship between the United States<\/a> and germany is crucial. Arguably our second most important ally. Nato, european power house. Here we are having this very, very delicate and difficult, very public discussion. It makes Angela Merkel<\/a> look bad. It makes the president look bad. But at home, theres a real theres a real concern as it relates to what did president obama know and when did he know it . Yeah. And neither of the answers are particularly good. Are we to believe as americans that the president of the United States<\/a> did not know that we were listening in on chancellor merkels phone calls for five years . And that he found out yet again about this story when he read about it in the news . Well, we better hope thats not true. We better hope that the background document that the white house put out, leaked out, it seems, to the wall street journal is false. And that it is a lie. What they hold is that the president had no knowledge of one of his closest allies, the leaders of one of our nations closest allies, being spied upon. And that he didnt approve it and he didnt authorize it. Because if its the truth, much more dangerous and much more chilling possibility would be that we have a National Security<\/a> apparatus that can spy on allies, including very important ones, without the issay so of t president. Lets just hope that spin and talking point is trying to protect the president. Otherwise we have a much bigger problem on our hands. Chilling being the operative word there. Chris stirewalt, thanks for your time. You bet. New Mainstream Media<\/a> outrage now over the benghazi terror attack. But its certainly not new for you out there, our viewers. Because the wrenching report on 60 minutes last night was information fox uncovered months ago. I made it known as a meeting, you were going to get attacked. You were going to get attacked in benghazi. Its going to happen. You need to change wroyour secuy profile. Joining me now, k. T. Mcfarland, fox news National Security<\/a> analyst. When i watched this report last night i thought, well, about time. Here we go. The Mainstream Media<\/a> asking very critical questions. What was your analysis . A couple of things. First of all, the Mainstream Media<\/a> has missed every opportunity, in fact, has gone in the other direction in looking at any critical analysis of this Administration Whether<\/a> its obama care, whether its benghazi, whether its al qaeda. Whatever it is, this administration bears no blame. I was in the whut house during watergate. I remember that question. What did the president know and when did he know it . It doomed the nixon presidency. Yet no one in the media is asking that question. The second thing, though, is about benghazi. Really about the entire middle east. Its as if the administration has al qaeda blindness. And its a willful blindness. They did not believe that al qaeda was still a threat so therefore when they had warnings prior to the al qaeda attack, prior to the benghazi attack, they ignored them. They didnt beef up security. They didnt rescue. After the fact, they still havent gone in the big question, though, is why . Because in this report last night, you had the security analyst saying that the al qaeda flags were flying five months before this attack in benghazi. And dont you remember before the election that one of the Campaign Slogans<\/a> for president obama was bin laden is dead and al qaeda is on the run. If you have all these requests for more security, could it be that this was all about an election . Sure it was. It was all about an election. Remember, when did it happen . It happened just a month before the election. Once the administration had determined that ben lin laden w dead and al qaeda was on the run, they were not going to acknowledge even in their own heads that al qaeda still presented a threat. It wasnt just the black flags of al qaeda flying. It was the fact that there was a Defense Department<\/a> report, a report from the Defense Department<\/a> saying al qaeda is setting up a cell in benghazi. Watch out. The repeated requests from the people in the embassy. We need more security. It fell on deaf and blind ears. So if it was about the election, now were postelection. Right. So why would the administration continue to allow al qaeda to become stronger in egypt, syria, iraq, afghanistan . I mean, its one thing to be blinded before an election. Right. But its a whole nother thing to have the legacy now of president obama be to be blinded about al qaeda . Your thoughts. Yeah. As far as the legacy youre absolutely right. They remain blinded about al qaeda. Why . If they admit it, then theyd have to go back and say we really did make a big mistake on benghazi. Theyre not about to admit that. Hes looking for a very different legacy. The legacy he wants is an arms control deal with the iranians at almost any price. The iranians want to have the sanctions lifted. They want to have nuclear weapons. Whether the administration goes along with okay, you know, the report is that its going to be a year away before al qaeda i mean, before Iran Gets Nuclear<\/a> weapons, now we find out maybe its even a month. Thats the legacy hes looking for. Not al qaeda. He got bin laden. That was the first term. Second term he wants to deal with iran. K. T. Mcfarland, expert on this topic, thank you so much. An alert for you right now. Police setting up a perimeter around a Movie Theater<\/a> this afternoon. Raleigh, North Carolina<\/a>, after an attempted robbery in the area. Look at that video. The suspect was subdued. Here he is lying face down on the roof. More on that story as it continues to come into fox. In the meantime, now that the Mainstream Media<\/a> is catching up to the outrage over benghazi, what does it mean for Hillary Clintons<\/a> political future . We debate. Fair and balanced, next. Plus, the search is on for four prisoners on the run. How they pulled off an escape right out of the movies and what investigators are saying now. A School District<\/a> giving the green light for teachers to pack heat. In the classroom. Where this decision is stirring a lot of hot debate, today. Right back. The constitution says that we can all carry weapons. We dont have to, but we can all carry weapons. So this vote was to allow people to carry weapons. Those teachers that or staff and volunteers should have the same rights as those that citizens that could walk on our school currently with concealed weapons permit should have them. Before the last grandchild. Before the first grandchild. Smile. Before katie, debbie, kevin and brad. There was a connection that started it all and made the future the wonderful thing it turned out to be. At bank of america, we know were not the center of your life, but well do our best to help you connect to what is. [ female announcer ] with five perfectly sweetened whole grains. You cant help but see the good. Ive got a big date, but my sinuses are acting up. Its time for advil cold and sinus. [ male announcer ] truth is that wont relieve all your symptoms. New alka seltzer plusd relieves more sinus symptoms than any other behind the counter liquid gel. Oh what a relief it is. Fox news alert for you now. Weve just heard from the Chickasaw Police<\/a> department that two out of the four prisoners, theyve been caught after escapes from a prison shower in oklahoma. They were spotted outside wearing orange jump suits before they disappeared. Two others still on the loose. Now that the Mainstream Media<\/a> is jumping on the benghazi out rage band wagon, what does it mean for former secretary of state Hillary Clintons<\/a> political future . As you recall, she was the secretary of state at the time of the deadly terror attack. And heres how she responded when questioned about it at a hearing a few months later. The fact is, we have four dead americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided theyd go kill some americans . What difference at this point does it make . Joining me now, julie ra begin ski, Fox News Contributor<\/a> a and lars larson, syndicated talk toe host. What difference does it make, lars . How do you run for president of the United States<\/a> when you have your own incompetence to blame as secretary of state for the deaths of four americans . Murdered in benghazi when you had every reason to know that their security was inadequate, as we saw in the interview with some of the security that were on the ground at the time. They warned the state department. The state department didnt want to hear those warnings. I have a feeling it was largely political. And then the fact that she dodged interviews by the congress for so long. When she finally showed up, she says what difference does it make . How do you avoid having americans killed in the future if you dont figure out the incompetence that got americans killed before . Julie, this story, it appears, is not going away. Now the Mainstream Media<\/a> looking into it after more than a year. So does this have any kind of political ramifications for Hillary Clinton<\/a> if she decides to run for president . Well, it remains to be seen. But i will say this. And i say this actually in a nonpartisan way. Look, when people attacked george bush for the attacks of 9 11 saying he should have known. He got a report. I said, you know what . Thats horrible. Its disingenuous. Youre essentially implying the president of the United States<\/a> allowed and stood back and allowed these horrible attacks to happen. The same thing is the implication here. Youre essentially implying that Hillary Clinton<\/a> voluntarily stood back and allowed four americans to be murdered. I think lets take politics out of this for a second. This is a horrible, horrible tragedy. Yeah. We need to get to the bottom of what happened. Lets not politicize it. Im not sure thats exactly the exact analogy. Of course it is. Its not. Heres a transcript from the interview last night. The reporter said in that environment you were asking for more security assets and you were not getting them . Greg hicks says, thats right. She says, did you fight that . He says, i was in the process of trying to frame a third request but it was not allowed to go forward. Lars, is it the same or different . Its different. Heres why. In august of that year, 2001, the nsa, then secretary rice not secretary rice, but dr. Rice, said there is some kind of threat coming from al qaeda that might involve airplanes somewhere, sometime. That was very nonspecific. This was a specific threat message from our own people on the ground who said, we have inadequate security. We have security locally hired that has promised to run away if attacked. Which is exactly what they did that night. Right. Theres a difference between a specific Security Threat<\/a> that could have been answered with Additional Resources<\/a> and a nonspecific threat like august of 2011. Will Hillary Clinton<\/a> have to answer this question successfully to be able to run for president. She has to address this issue. It permeates the public consciousness about her. Lets not forget, this is not to minimize what happened in benghazi, obviously a horrific tragedy from everybody involved. But from a purely political standpoint, Hillary Clintons<\/a> Approval Ratings<\/a> have not seemed to suffer over this. True. In fact, right now Hillary Clinton<\/a> is the frontrunner regardless of if she runs again. Its been interesting to see as we get closer. Got to move on to the next topic. Surprise, surprise. Obama care. It has to do with the fact former treasury secretary under bill clinton has now said that actually, lars, its republicans fault that this whole thing is not working. Your thoughts . No. Its not republicans fault. The democrats say they wanted to have single payer. Republicans said no, it has to involve the private sector. So the government jumped into the private sector and look what the result is. A 600 million website that doesnt work. And Health Care Costs<\/a> that are rising dramatically. And the Insurance Companies<\/a> point the finger blame right where it belongs. At the governments actions in the marketplace. Heres what he says. So why are todays republicans so upset with an act they designed and their patrons adore . Because its the signature achievement of the Obama Administration<\/a>. Julie, is it simply because its under this are republicans really to blame for this website no, no, no. Look, im not going to speak for bob reich. Having read his column i dont think thats what hes saying. What hes saying and i agree with this is that democrats would have preferred, myself included, a single payer program. The heritage foundation, certainly a conservative organization, proposed the initial skeleton of what you see with obama care. Then Newt Gingrich<\/a> ran with it back in the 90s. Then mitt romney, again republican governor of massachusetts enacted it at the state level. Exactly what you see here. Its been a republican proposal time after time. The minute barack obama attaches his name to it, scores of republicans oppose it. Orrin hatch of utah was one of the big proponents of this back in the 90s. No longer because barack obama supports it. When this passed under nancy pelosi not one republican voted for it. Of course. Because barack obama and nancy pelosi supported it. Obviously. Julie and lars, thanks for your time. Thank you so much. Carnival ride operator in court today facing criminal charges after an accident injured five people at a state fair. So are your kids safe . Do you let your kids go on these rides . Its a really tough question, isnt it . The latest from the courtroom straight ahead. And mourners pack the funeral of a Popular High School<\/a> teacher. Whats next for the teenage student charged with her murder . How a grieving community is trying to move forward. Theres going to be a huge presence here. Our kids are going to be safe. Our kids are resilient. And our family and our community will get through. [ male announcer ] this is brad. His day of coaching begins with knee pain, when. [ man ] hey, brad, want to trade the allday relief of two aleve for six tylenol . Whats the catch . Theres no catch. You want me to give up my two aleve for six tylenol . No. For my knee pain, nothing beats my aleve. Medicare open enrollment. Of year again. No. Time to compare plans and costs. 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Flames erupting last night spreading throughout the complex, damaging businesses and residential units there. More than 60 firefighters from a dozen communities battling to bring that fire under control. One firefighter suffered injuries and was taken to the hospital. Sad day in massachusetts as 1,000 mourners including hundreds of students turn out for the funeral of colleen ritzer. The Popular High School<\/a> teacher found dead in the woods near her school last week. A 14yearold student charged in her murder. As the suspects mother releases a statement saying her heart is broken over the loss of the beloved teacher. This mother puts out this statement today. Right. Saying shes heartbroken through her attorney. Her son only 14, being charged as an adult. Does any kind of empathetic, sympathetic statement, does it change anything in this case . It could change something at sentencing. Not before sentencing. At sentencing the mother, shell be able to be there. The father, whoever else on his side will be there to take the stand and say this is not this boy. This is not who we knew. This is not the love we had in this family. Give him a break. But right now, gretchen, no. I dont think it changes a thing. Of course the mother is going to come out and say i love this boy. Hes a good choild. All of that. Hes only 14 as you said. I dont think that changes a lick of anything when it goes to the courtroom, throughout his arraignment, bail setting and all that. Something else interesting coming out in this story now, more than 130 surveillance cameras inside of this school. No doubt some of them were in the vicinity of this bathroom where this crime apparently ppened. How does that factor into the case. Absolutely. If im prosecuting it, thats exhibit a. Ill never get this kid on the stand. Im trying him as an adult. I may never get him on the stand. The surveillance, if the reports we have are accurate, its going to be pretty horrific. The nature of the killing. The getting rid of the body. All of that caught on surveillance. I am playing that for the jury again and again and again. So they see, yes, he may be a 14yearold sitting there. But look at the way he acted. Really. You would actually potentially see the murder happening. Yes. If youre a member of this jury. Of course, therell be motions from the defense. The defense lawyer will say, no way. Its so abhorrent, so horrible, we dont need to see it. We stipulate to the fact this teacher died. We dont need to see the video. I think a good judge is going to say, jurors, you need to see exactly what happened. This boy, this 14yearold is being tried as an adult. You need to see the horrendousness, is that a word . Of the crime. You need to see that. Meantime, an oregon School District<\/a>s decision to let teachers carry guns in the classroom stirring up lots of controversy. I know you and i both did a lot of research on this. Apparently now in the state of oregon you can carry concealed. Yes. You can carry concealed. The question is whether in a school. Not if youre under 21. Nobody under 21 can carry concealed. Weve also got the federal law. The federal free gun zone law that says no school no guns in the School District<\/a>. But every state kind of crafts its own law. What oregon has done now here, if you carry concealed and youve got a permit for it and you are a teacher, you may be able to carry that gun sorry. If you are a parent you may be able to carry that gun on to the school faculty. Thats really frightening. You could have, for example, a parent upset with a teacher and brings a gun in. If theyre over 21 and theyve got the concealed permit. And they go further than that. What theyre trying to do in this one district is say not just parents, but teachers as well. Teachers, apparently its st. He helens, oregon. Seven schools will allow the adults. The flip side of the argument, lis, is that had teachers been armed in some of these other situations that weve had, newtown, connecticut, for example, maybe they could have acted quicker and killed the person who was coming into the school. Thats definitely the flip side of the argument. On the flip side of the argument is that a teacher can be disabled, for example. And the gun taken away and turned against the teacher and the kids in the classroom. Its really a balance here. Oregon is stepping out in front of this debate. Its so interesting. I always thought schools were gun free zones. Thats the federal law. Yes. Its interesting that the state can supersede in certain situations. Yeah. Exactly. Thanks so much. Thats a lot of legal work we just went through. I know. Thank goodness youre the attorney. Thank you very much. Youve been tonight school law. A little bit. Accident at a state fair. What went wrong this time . The latest on the ride operator facing serious criminal charges after five people got hurt last week. Thats the vortex. Have you ever been on that one . Feds say they came to confiscate a potato gun . But a veteran reporter says they left with confidential documents and her notes with her sources listed. She joins us live for her First Television<\/a> interview, next. The day we rescued riley was a truly amazing day. He was a matted mess in a small cage. So that was our first task, was getting him to wellness. Without angies list, i dont know if we could have found all the services we needed for our riley. From contractors and doctors to dog sitters and landscapers, you can find it all on angies list. We found riley at the shelter, and found everything he needed at angies list. Join today at angieslist. Com ive got a nice long life ahead. Big plans. So when i found out medicare doesnt pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. 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Travel nightmare in the uk after a powerful and deadly storm slams western europe. The region still copes with widespread flooding and sweeping power outages. At least 13 people have died. A ride operator charged in an accident at the North Carolina<\/a> state fair in court today. Investigators say that the vortex ride suddenly restarted as people were getting off. Five people injured. Three of them are still in the hospital. Live from our atlanta bureau, this is like a parents worst nightmare, jonathan. I know when i look at these rides for my kids, i wonder, wow, when was the last time they were inspected . Should i let them go on it . Thats a concern many parents and many riders in general have when they go to the fair. This particular fair, the North Carolina<\/a> state fair, has an excellent safety record. All of the rides undergo a mandatory inspection three times. But authorities are accusing this one ride operator of making some alterations to some of the safety features after an inspection. We have some new video that i want to show you right now of the defendant making his first appearance in a North Carolina<\/a> courtroom. The defendant is 46yearold Timothy Dwayne<\/a> tutterrow of quitman, georgia. He is that ride operator now facing three criminal counts of assault with a deadly weapon. In this case, the alleged weapon is the ride itself. Authorities are accusing the operator of tampering with the ride after an inspection in a way that they say compromised safety mechanisms. Tutterrow is scheduled to appear in court this afternoon. There you saw him in that video just now. His attorney wouldnt discuss details of the case, but said that his client is devastated by what happened. Witnesses say on thursday, a ride called the vortex suddenly went into motion while passengers were exiting and no longer in their safety restraints. Dropping some riders from heights of 20 to 30 feet by some estimates. At least five people were injured. Three of them remain hospitalized. Now, gretchen, early this morning, around 3 00 this morning, another fair worker was injured while dismantling another ride that just by coincidence is also called the vortex. He was taken to the hospital with an alleged leg injury. Authorities point out the vortex he was injured on has a separate manufacturer and is apparently a completely different type of ride than the vortex that is at the center of this ongoing criminal investigation. Gretchen . All right. Thanks so much for that clarification. Thanks much, jonathan. This next story raising serious questions about government overreach. A conservative reporter says the fed is in a predawn raid took her files while searching her home for guns. Including a toy potato gun. She thinks the government may have an ulterior motive for conducting the search. Joining us now in her first tv interview, Audrey Hudson<\/a>, washington correspondent for the colorado observer. Great to see you, audrey. Thanks for having me, gretchen. Lets go back to 1986. I know your husband had some sort of a gun charge back then. Is that what this all stems from . No. That has nothing to do with this. My husband was a federally licensed firearm dealer. However, what this has to do with is he purchased a potato launcher. It looks exactly like this. Its a novelty item. Right. He purchased it online five years ago. The search warrant they presented at our house at 4 30 in the morning said that they came to recover this potato launcher. However, once they were in the house, the first thing that the Homeland Security<\/a> officer asks me was, are you the same Audrey Hudson<\/a> who wrote all of the federal air martial stories for the Washington Times<\/a> . Wow. Because you had written some articles about air martials criticizing what . Correct. I wrote numerous articles. I had a wealth of confidential informants. The main story i wrote that aggravated the agency was they lied to congress about how many flights they were actually protecting from terrorists. Do you think you were specifically targeted . In other words, do you think that they came up with this potato gun raid that they had to do at your house predawn hours, but what they really wanted was what they ended up walking away with, which was what . What they ended up walking away with were my confidential notes. I didnt even know that they had taken these until a month later. They calm ecalled me on the pho said, by the way, you can come and pick up your files. I said, what files. When i asked them why they had the federal air marbshal files e said we needed to run it by the tsa to make sure it was legitimate for you to have these files. Theyre my files. My typewritten notes, handwritten notes. My files. By the way, the Privacy Protection<\/a> act guarantees that government cannot look at a reporters notes unless there are very specific circumstances. So essentially they came into my house, they stole my notes, theyve exposed my sources. So i want to read the statement that comes from the coast guard. Heres what they had to say. The documents were reviewed with the Source Agency<\/a> and determined to be obtained properly as you just said, through the freedom of information act. The cg, coast guard employee, was notified the documents were cleared and the cg employee picked them up after signing for the documents. Or are they talking about your husband in that case being the cg in play . No. Thats who took the documents, the coast guard is part of Homeland Security<\/a>. And thats really frustrating. Because only one file contained a document that i obtained under the freedom of information act, which is what they said they wanted to check out. The letter that came with the document clearing it was still attached. There was no question. People watching the other documents sorry. Sorry to interrupt. People watching right now are going to be saying, are you telling me that this may have been some sort of intimidation because of stories that you had written that were critical of this administration . Its clearly intimidation. So you believe that you were clearly and specifically targeted, and that the the whole thing about the gun, the potato gun, was a cover . I do. And so what are you doing now . Whats your answer . And why did you come forward . Well, the Washington Times<\/a> who i wrote the stories for, they are pursuing legal action. So theyre going to take that track. And i came forward for two purposes. One, i needed to let my sources know they could have been compromised by the notes that were taken. And also i want to make sure that this doesnt happen to another reporter. Because we cant just have the government coming into your house on a minor warrant and walk out with whatever files they please of our work product. Very interesting story. Audrey hudson, thanks so much for your time today. Keep us posted. Thank you, gretchen. Let us know what you think about that story as well. They may be related, but they have very different views, especially when it comes to obama care. The president s second cousin once removed. A Tea Party Member<\/a> . Hes going to join us live. And the trial of a doctor accused of murdering his wife so he could keep up an affair now getting even juicier. His mistress has this to say about their relationship. How often were the two of you having sexual relations . We would see each other about a couple times a month. There were months when we didnt see each other. I think we probably had sex half the time. I mean, sometimes it was just lunch. 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C. The arrest could affect his probation for assaulting his on again, off again girlfriend rihanna back in 2009. Movie star Sylvester Stallone<\/a> showing off his artwork. I thought we were going to Say Something<\/a> else. Just his artwork. At the Russian Museum<\/a> in st. Petersburg. The veteran actor says if he had the choice he would spend his life drawing instead of acting. Belly rubs on the baby bump a big no no in pennsylvania. A state law protects pregnant women from the unwanted attention. Offenders could face a criminal charge of harassment if they rub. All across the country, reports of monthly premiums spiking because of obama care. According to a recent study conduct bid the heritage foundation, a conservative think tank, arkansas, georgia, arizona, vermont and kansas are seeing the worst of it. Dr. Milton wolf is from kansas. Hes a Board Certified<\/a> diagnostic radiologist. Hes also the Tea Party Candidate<\/a> who just mounted a primary challenge to republican senator pat roberts in that state. And hes president obamas second cousin once removed. Good to see you, doctor. Thanks for having me, gretchen. Congratulations on the new show. Thank you so much. A lot of people watching are going to say, wait a minute. Second cousin once removed from president obama. And youre in the tea party . You know, they say you cannot choose your own family. But you can choose to rise up and stop your family from destroying america. Thats what im thats what i intend to do. That is not a light hearted statement. What do you mean by that . Well, you know, the sad thing is about barack obama, and i dont mean anything personal against him, but he doesnt understand america. At least he doesnt understand american exceptionalism. What makes america exceptional is that unlike other countries around the world, our citizens are sovereign. You know, the power in america should reside in the people. And our government needs to relearn its place as servant rather than master. Have you ever had a chance to tell him that . I understand that your mom and his mom grew up together in kansas. Have you ever met the president . Have you ever been able to tell him you 100 disagree with him . Indeed, i have. I think there are probably few people in this world who have looked barack obama in the eye and stood toe to toe and told him hes wrong. And he is wrong. He is wrong to not trust americans with their own basic Health Insurance<\/a> decisions. Hes wrong to think that the government should step in between a doctor and their patient. Hes wrong to tell a mother who takes her young child into the e. R. At 3 00 a. M. In the morning that that doctor has to check with bureaucrats to see what treatments can be given. He is simply wrong. So you decided you wanted to be the Tea Party Candidate<\/a> against kansas senator pat roberts, a republican, whos been in that seat for quite some time. But it had something to do with the health and Human Services<\/a> secretary, Kathleen Sebelius<\/a>. And you found it ironic that it was senator roberts who was one of the first to ask for her resignation. Because they were longtime friends, correct . Well, this is true. But ill tell you what. Ill give you 17 trillion reasons why we need to replace every one of those career politicians in that congress. That debt is crushing us, and its destroying our future. Ill give you 11 reasons why that has to include senator pat roberts. Thats the number of times he has voted to increase the debt ceiling. But ill give you one reason why we need to replace senator pat roberts today. If it was not for senator pat roberts, we would not have Kathleen Sebelius<\/a> as the head of hhs. Kathleen sebelius has been a disaster since shes been in washington. But it should be no surprise. She was a disaster when she was in kansas. Her heavy handed government mandates on insurance chased several companies out of the state. And left tens of thousands of kansans without insurance. You know, she also provided single handedly cut single handedly provided cover for the most prolific mass murderer in the kansas state history, that being george tiller, the third trimester abortionist. A very controversial topic. Everything about her were going to hear more from her he knew all this before he voted for her. Sorry to cut you off. Were tight on time. Shes going to be testifying just 48 hours from now. So we will wait to hear how that goes. Great to meet you, dr. Wolf. Ill tell you, you can tune into our website at miltonwolf. Com. Im not here to send a career politician a message. Im here to send a career politician home. Your viewers can contribute, can get on our website, they can help us get this job done. You may be a doctor, but youre a good politician already. You know how to talk. Thanks so much, doctor. New developments in the sensational murder trial. What a mistress named gypsy says about her affair with the doctor accused of murdering his wife and trying to make it look like an accident. Trace is going to have all the details for us. Plus, maybe you should buy some lotto tickets. A man struck by lightning not once, but twice during the storm lives to tell his tale. Lucky guy. announcer at scottrade, our clients trade and invest exactly how they want. With scottrades online banking, i get one view of my bank and brokerage accounts with one login. To easily move my money when i need to. Plus, when i call my local scottrade office, i can talk to someone who knows how i trade. Becausybody. I trade like me. Im with scottrade. announcer scottradeproud to be ranked best overall client experience. The former mistress of a utah doctor accused of murdering his wife set to take the stand again when the trial resumes tomorrow. Prosecutors say Martin Macneill<\/a> killed his wife, michelle, so he could keep up his affair with a woman named gypsy willis. But on the stand yesterday, willis said their affair was never that serious. Trace gallagher is live with more on this story. Reporter she is the prosecutions star witness but there were times when she didnt do the prosecution many favors. At one point she told them the affair was casual and they didnt see each other that much. Now listen to when she talks about how Martin Macneill<\/a> showed concern about his wifes heart condition prior to her upcoming plastic surgery. Listen. I overheard a conversation where she had stopped and gotten her Blood Pressure<\/a> checked and it was quite high, and he said youve got to get that under control if youre going to have the surgery. Remember, the initial autopsy showed Michelle Macneill<\/a> died of Heart Disease<\/a> but the prosecutors dead make headway point ought Martin Macneill<\/a> was helping gypsy willis financially through nursing school, and when his wife died, macneill hired gypsy willis as a nanny. She took on the identity of one of his adopt editors who had gone back to the ukraine. Prosecutors show that in the days before the wife died, macneill and gypsy willis called and texted dozens upon dozens of times and that their relationship had clearly gotten more serious. Listen. Do you remember emailing the potential suitor in march of 2007. In the letter i wrote in response to a guy that was asking me on a date. Okay. So in march 6, 2007, you emailed another suitor and said, a good and best friend has become much more than that, and because of that it would be inappropriate for the two of you to meet. Correct. Pointing out they were exclusive at that point in time. Gypsy willis is back on the stand tomorrow morning. The trial expected to last at least three, maybe four more weeks. Wow. Thanks for the update. Ole miss has one of College Footballs<\/a> most cherished tradition. Guess who started it all. Thats coming up next. [ male announcer ] progressos so passionate about its new tomato florentine soup, it took a little time to get it just right. [ ding ] but finally, it happened. Perfection. At progresso, weve got a passion for quality, because youve got a passion for taste. Talk about one lucky guy. Rodeo clown hit twice buy lightning, lives to tell the tale. It dropped me to me knees and then hit me again, and it was two big flashes and sparks. I give everything to god. I owe everything to him, kept me alive. He lost sensation some n some parts of his bowed but has it back now. Guess what leads to the hotty toddy cheer on saturday night. Im gretchen karlson, host of the the real story. My friend told me about oxford but i have a very important question to ask. Are you ready my gosh, a huge honor, a lot of fun, Shepard Smith<\/a> is reporting live. Shep, you went to ole miss and i wore red for you today. Everybody e everyone in rebel nation appreciates it. Now if we can just win out. Look out, arkansas. The news begins anew. Have you heard . Red bull is being sued now . Millions and millions and millions of dollars from a family that says, your product killed our relative. How . Well have the details on that. Lets get to it. Good afternoon from the news deck on a monday. A workers attempts to cut corners may be what turned a packed ride at the far into a deadly weapon. One that launched riders into the sky and threw them to the ground. 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