Was then tortured and killed in russia and he believes that all that leads us back to why the russian lawyer wanted very much to sit down with donald junior. Bill browder tells us what he knows and then we will get reaction to all of the stomach from charles krauthammer, who is back with us this evening. First, Trace Gallagher lays it out for us. Reporter donald trump, jr. , little themes as that his meeting with russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya was a set up on behalf of fusion gps, a u. S. Firm that helped produce the infamous and now debunked from dossier which offered salacious but phony details about President Trumps connection to the russians. They deny any involvement with the meeting, but their role, if any, will certainly come up during next weeks hearing before the Senate Judiciary committee, a hearing that was scheduled before the term junior emails went public and was prompted by a complaint from financier bill browder. As you mentioned, browder and his attorney helped uncover the russian corruption and Human Rights Violations that led to the magnet ski act, which imposes sanctions on wealthy russians, along with the individuals involved in his death. Vladimir putin was still furious, he banned russian children from being adopted by u. S. Families. Browder now accuses fusion tps of waging an influence campaign against him to put an end to the magnitsky act. The biggest browder bombshell is his claim that Natalia Veselnitskaya, who said that she has no ties to the kremlin, is in fact an agent of the russian government who was trying to convince the trim campaign to change u. S. Policy on russia. Veselnitskaya has been a vocal opponent of the magnitsky act, specifically the ban on adoption, but browder says in her meeting with term, jr. , she was acting as putins proxy to repeal the act saying the meeting was an attempt by the russian government to repeal sanctions that annoy them by going to the next possible president of the United States. For now the Judiciary Committee only plans on hearing from the department of justice and bill browder, but senator Dianne Feinstein has called on donald trump junior himself to also testify. Martha thank you very much. Here now is bill browder with his side of the story. Good evening to you and thank you for joining us tonigh tonight. You worked extensively in russia, had huge business and investments there at one point and all of that went south when you feel corruption was uncovered by you and then by your friend magnitsky, who was subsequently murdered in a jail cell, correct . Thats right. I uncovered corruption, they got angry with me for uncovering corruption, expelled me from the country, my offices were rated, they seize my documents, they use the documents to steal 231 million of taxes we paid. My lawyer magnitsky exposed it. He was taken into custody, tortured for 358 days and killed seven years ago at the age of 37 and ive been on a mission to get justice for him ever since. Martha how does all of that lead to the meeting that was recently uncovered in this email chain between Natalia Veselnitskaya and donald trump junior . It became clearer that i wasnt going to get any justice in russia because its such a corrupt country, so i sought to get justice outside of russia and instead of the justice i sought to get, was to freeze the assets and ban the visas of the people who were involved in the murder of magnitsky and the people who do similar crimes. I took this idea to the u. S. Congress in 2010 and it ended up becoming the magnitsky law in 2012, and it opposes visa sanctions and asset freezes on human rights violators from russia. Vladimir putin is absolutely furious and handed up making it his single largest Foreign Policy priority to stop it. The other thing that we did was we tracked down the money from the crime and we found some of that money in the United States, we reported it to the department of justice, they opened up a criminal case and the defendant who showed up was a russian by the name of dennis, and he was represented by Natalia Veselnitskaya and she then has embarked on a threeyear campaign to try to overturn the magnitsky act and its been a wellfinanced campaign, they hired the best lawyers, the best lobbyists, the best Public Relations professionals and theyve gone all over capitol hill and eventually found their way to the possible next president of the United States back in 2016 by meeting the son of donald trump. Martha when you heard about that meeting let me interject. When you heard about the meeting that took place, she described it as she got there and she was incoherent and telling them all the stories and i thought this is a complete waste of time, this is not what we are here fo for, they were told that there was some dirt on Hillary Clinton, they were curious to hear what it might be, and the meeting sort of quickly ended and it was a waste of time. Does that add up to you . Basically these people have been going around knocking on every door. They are not the only people that thought she was a waste of time because she hasnt achieved any of her objectives, but it hasnt been for lack of trying. They went to congress and try to do the same thing, they went and try to take magnitskys act off of the global act and ended up getting one sympathetic member of the house of representatives to sponsor that amendment and when it went to vote, every single other member of the Foreign Affairs committee shut him down. These people will try everything, the russians will try 100 things in the hope that one of them works and this is just one of those hundred things as far as i can tell. Martha let me ask you this, in terms of the connection that a lot of people are drawing from all of this, there must be some kind of nefarious connection between the from campaign and russian manipulation of our electoral system and that maybe there was a quid pro quo and something was promised. Do you think this is more isolated to very intense lobbying effort that employs this woman, would you believe is connected to the kremlin, to sway their opinion, or do you see something more than that here . I think this is pretty straightforward as far as i can tell. I think i probably made a dozen different attempts to get to trump and i think it probably made a thousand different attempts to get to Hillary Clinton. They were looking for anybody who would be empowered to hear them out and hope that that person would be sympathetic to them. These people arent stupid, they look and study their targets carefully, they look from what they might want and i try to come up with some part theyre not stupid, they understand that if they will ask for Something Big like the repeal of the major human rights bill they have to offer something in return so they have to come up with something. Obviously what they came up with didnt make a lot of sense and it all fizzled out, but thats how these cards operate, they go to kgb school to learn this kind of stuff. Martha thank you very much, bill. Very interesting to talk to you tonight, thanks for being here. Thank you. Martha meanwhile President Trump is that to leave the white house any minute now headed to paris to meet with the french president and before he did, the president sat down with pat robinson where the subject of Vladimir Putin came up, watch his response. What do you think his game i is . He wants whats good for russia and i want what is good for the United States. And i think like in a case like cereal where we get together and do a ceasefire, there are many other cases were getting along can be a very positive thing. But always putin is going to want russia and trump is going to want United States and thats the the waiters. People said they shouldnt get along, but where the people that are saying that . I think we got along very, very well, we are a tremendously powerful Nuclear Power and so are they. It doesnt make sense not to have some kind of a relationship. Martha here now charles krauthammer, also fox news contributor, good evening to you. The Pat Robertson interview, what are your thoughts . I think what youre interview with browder illustrates is who the pollen was in this game. That lawyer was not a trump apologist, just some dogooder human rights, shes an agent of the russian government going after this act, which is about human rights and the purpose is to punish the people in the putin circle who tortured him and killed him. And i think its one of the few acts of sanctions that worked well because it doesnt have the whole population, it hits the bad guys and their associates. Thats why putin despises it, and she was used as a pawn in this episode, it doesnt change anything about what was in the chain of donald trump junior emails, which indicates that he was offered dirt from a foreign hostile power and he went for i it. Martha in terms of the actions of the Trump Administration, because they have sought to lift some of the sanctions, and members of Congress Want to keep them. Clearly bill browder wants to make sure the sanction stay in place. Serving that line does not help them in this whole story at all. The Trump Administration action on sanctions has been zigzagged and inconspicuous. The senate wants to stop on really hard sanctions, overwhelming vote to do it, the administration has resisted. The irony is that that happened with the Obama Administration where they tried to slap on hard sanctions in the administration resisted as well. Theres a pattern that continues here. I think there is no policy really, trump in that interview said we try to get along, of course we try to get along, the ceasefire in syria may be a good thing, we dont know how it will work out, but that so far is the only proof of his diplomacy. Martha when you you and i spoke yesterday you talked about than i naivete of donald trump, jr. , being a lousy excuse, 24 hours later, how does the story look to you . Is this something administration gets through or is it just the beginning of more of the stories that could likely keep dropping and cause them a lot of trouble in getting anything done . I think its likely there are more stories, but even if there were none, if the damage done by the story is enormous and the reason is that for six months the administration touted the line that there was no collusio collusion, democratic exaggeration, its a delusion on their part, theres nothing here. I supported that line because there was no evidence for it, but now you see the evidence loud and clear. An email that says that the russian government is supporting your father as part of the effort, we cut dirt, we will get there. The state prosecutor with documents to support that, we want you to take meeting and what does he say . I love it. I love it, deadly words. Even if it didnt pan out, that doesnt matter. Attempted collusion is still collusion, and thats why i think it undermines the entire story that collusion was fictio fiction. I always said i dont see any collusion, but im open to empirical evidence, this is the first empirical evidence. Martha charles krauthammer, thank you very much, we will see you next time. Still had tonight, the white house is heading back at the critics of donald trump, jr. , their messag message . Hillary clinton allies, like this one rented here, did the same thing. We will show you exactly what that story is. Also a growing trend on College Campuses, rightwing speakers blocked often by violent means from sharing their views with students. Dr. Charles murray is one of those voices he joins us here tonight to address what he calls spoiled college students. Plus, more on the case of penn state sophomore Timothy Piazza after Fraternity Hazing leaves him dead. 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I do know for a fact the Democratic Party operatives went to the Ukrainian Embassy to coordinate Oppositional Research and attack against our campaign, so thats a story. The double standard is upsetting, you see it everyday. I would love to rant and rave about it, but with everything thats going on, i think that people see it. Is anybody saying by the y it why did the dnc have their operatives meeting with ukrainians and actually getting information . Why is that not one standard and this is another . Martha live in washington tonight with a back story on the dncs alleged ties to the ukraine, watch. This all stems from a political article back in january. It found that Ukrainian Government officials have tried to help Hillary Clinton and her thencandidate donald trump during the campaign. Sound familiar . Instead of allegations about the Trump Campaign colluding with russia, this is about the Clinton Campaign possibly colluding with ukraine, one of russias biggest adversaries. At the center of the story is the ukrainian American Woman named alexandra toluca. She is a veteran democratic operative who used to work in the Clinton White house and in 2016 while consulting for the dnc she reportedly met with ukrainian ambassadors at the embassy in washington to discuss Paul Manaforts ties to russia. That took place right before manafort was brought on as his Campaign Chairman and a few days later she reportedly briefed the dnc staff about it. According to politico, but ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race helping to force manaforts resignation and advancing the narrative that the Trump Campaign was deeply connected to russia. It goes on to say that they were far less concerted or centrally directed than russias. Most quote u. S. Intelligence officials have concluded that russia hacking was personally directed by president putin, but theres little evidence of a similar effort by ukraine, so thats the difference. Still, the Trump Administration is seizing on the similarities. They claim that this constitutes clear and active coordination between the dnc and a Foreign Government. Martha thank you very much much. Kristin fisher live in washington. Here now, Campaign Director for the center for American Progress action fund. And katie, news editor for townhall. Com and a fox news contributor. Emily, let me start with you, obviously the egregious part of that is that there was coordination with a Foreign Government. The dnc has categorically denied this. The dnc Research Director said they have never been in contact and 4. 5 years with any Foreign Government. That does not change the fact that what donald trump, jr. , did was probably collusion, and admitted to it. He had first lied about it, its important that we talk about the timeline. First he said the meeting never happened, then he said it was about adoption an end he said it was to get dirt, but it was actually find that it was to get dark. These are just things that we know about. Time and time again from the Trump Administration people very, very close to the president meeting with russian officials and lying about it.