President trump i will sign a bill to open our government for three weeks until february 15. Martha to kick off the conversation, steve hilton, host of the next revolution i put that question to you. Youve been very supportive of this president and the Border Security, the wall has been central since day one. What happened today . I think that what he did today was make the right move. Because the big prize is getting that movement forward. On Border Security and immigration, that has eluded politicians of left and right for decades. Be clear about this issue, of immigration, which doesnt just mean the border, it means the whole system, has been broken for so long. Ing . That has been defeated in the swamp for decades. Its been left to fester. Its been punted along. Finally, you have a president , donald trump, not going to let it happen. Thats why he did the shotdown, forced attention on this issue, and even though today may look like a confession to some supporters, concession, in many ways it is. What hes still doing is forcing those people in congress who have ducked this issue for so long to try and come up with a solution. Hes given them 21 days. At the end of that, thats when well really know whether hes been able to make a historic difference in the way no politician has been for such a long time. Martha well see. Because he essentially said if he didnt get what he wanted, he was going to use his executive powers to declare a crisis at the border. Now, i guess, if at the end of 21 days they dont get where they need to be on this, to satisfy his base, then perhaps that option is still there. But i mean, the backlash is pretty fierce. Lets look at some of the headlines out there. Donald chump, trump just lost his leverage for building a wall. Why trump blinked. Those are some of whats being said. Some of those outlets are not particularly positive on the president in most cases anyway. But also from ann coulter, as we can imagine, good news for here bert walker bush, he noise longer the biggest wimp to serve as president of the United States. What do you think . Well, this stuff is just childish. Its not helpful. Its not serious. This is a really serious problem. Immigration has been growing as a problem. It will continue to grow as you get bigger and bigger migration flow is a round the world, technology, you have got the cost of travel. This is going to be a really serious issue. So we dill, its not the end of the process. The time to judge is in a few weeks. If congress can use this period to finally deal with the problem, the answer martha i hear what you are saying but this has been going on for 13 years, this discussion, and theyve gone right up to the edge, many times, said were this close to doing comprehensive immigration reform. The indications jared kushner, advisor to the president , has been wanting to make this a moment for comprehensive immigration refornl. I think most of america feels exactly the same way. Why would nancy pelosi want to give anything after what happened today . What is the insentive to her to negotiate with the president and leave him at the end with something that looks like or that is, because it has to be real, an actual border that works . This may sound like a weird thing to say at this moment, but fundamental decency. In the end, how long can she go on, saying that it doesnt matter what you put on the table, shes already said this, in terms of giving up what we want for the kind of priorities that our voters have. We just keep saying no, because we hate you donald trump. Okay, if she continues to do that, she really will be exposeds a completely empty politician who only cares about those partisan points and doesnt care about the future of the country. The president has shown he is interested in a bigger deal than just traveling over martha absolutely, he made a generous offer. Looking at it, you know, 30,000 feet, its like you look at what he was offering, he was offering daca release, essentially, huge program to allow people to stay here, increased technology at the border, increased Border Security in the form of more agents along that border. Also a physical barrier that prevents people from coming in. And youre right, i think that it would reveal what . On Nancy Pelosis side of the end of the fence so to speak are mushing for, is basically pushing for they want no barrier, no wall. To that you have to ask the question, do they want to remove whats there. Should it just be a completely fluid back and forth area. Exactly. They have no serious argument, no substantive argument ishgts repurely political. To every supporter much donald trump, watching tonight, whoever you are, if you want to support this president , if you want to see him reelected in 2020, then youve got to get behind him right now, at this moment, and push for that kind of big, historic deal. That is the best way to make sure that he gets credit from a situation which we can all sees that been messy, hurt his reputation, his poll numbers are down. Were not at the end. Were half way through. And hes still got the chance to have used the pressure of shutting down the government and now putting this deadline on it, with the threat of the emergency action, to get a really big, positive change. That will be the best way to ensure that hes reelected in 2020. Martha when you look at the politics and where people were moving, one of the indications that were hearing is that the two votes that they took in the seven at, where six republicans said yes to the Democrat Bill that had no border wall funding in it, got them unnerved at the white house. They were concerned about the outcome of that vote and felt they were losing folks even in their own party. Expected to lose mitt romney but they lost six people on that vote and people were becoming weakkneed about the government being closed as long as it was. I think thats right. And i think that the fact that you had real World Problems emerging, not just terrible hardships for the hundreds of thousands of people. Laguardia airport, that was a shock to the system this morning. You think about the economic impact, you know, the president rightly considered the growth in the economy, which has benefitted so many people to be his biggest achievement, dont want that put at risk. All adds up to making the smart decision today. Okay, it will be panned, weve seen, has been panned by some as being concession. As i say, this is just, this is not the end of the process. Judging by the results. Not just him, remember, judge those people in congress. Theyre the ones who now neat to put together the policy program. The president can and should lead this process. He should be out there. And arguing for the kind of big, positive change that they can then make happen in congress. The truth is, theres no way anyone can dispute the fundamentals of the actual issue. Hes on the right side of this. Martha steve hilton, thank you so much, good to see you. Coming up next, senator john kennedy about this development, right after the break. Stay with us. To look at me now, you dont see psoriasis. You see clear skin. You see me. But if you saw me before cosentyx. I was covered. It was awful. But i didnt give up. I kept fighting. 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Martha what is this all about, the indictment says that stone made false statements to congress about his interactions with wikileaks. And that he tried on persuade one of the with its to lie. Thats what the indictment says. The emails that were hacked and leaked, you have heard so much about, at the heart, really, of this entire russia investigation, roll back the tape and ask yourself, did they have an impact on the election, did they have an impact on how the American People voted, because of these releases of the e machlts remember, the first group came out around the time of the dnc, convention for Hillary Clinton. What did they reveal . That Debbie Wasserman schultz had sanctioned practices that made it pretty tough for Bernie Sanders to get a fair shake. You had that. Then you fast forward to october, what did those emails that, were hacked into, and revealed say . Right before it lex. These are the podesta emails. Donna brazil had her hands on the debate question and gave it to Hillary Clinton ahead of time. Some staffers were talking about things like this, that rich conservatives, probably found it more palatable to their friends to be catholic rather than evangelical, seen as a slam against catholics that might have turned off catholic voters. Another one said that they really should get into bolstering Hillary Clinton with, quote, meaty latinos, seen as something troublesome to latino voters and suggested they should try to get an endorsement by bill richardson. Real emails that came out, embarrassing, were they explosive, votechanging . Thats a question that is open to answering. This is what the Mueller Investigation is trying to find out wrchlt they the result have russian hacking and did they give them to wikileaks and did the Trump Campaign conspire to then have this whole thing blow up. Thats where were at. The mueller team did not make that link in this indictment. Stone says that they never will. No evidence of collusion or wikileaks collaboration. I rye jekt the idea that i coordinated it all. Kalt gorically false. I intend to prove it at trial. Martha his arraignment is set for tuesday. Mike cal putt owe has been on the mueller hot seat and said it was about roger stone when they questioned him. Michael, good to have you here tonight. When you look back at the chain of events here that, we just went through and what lies at the heart of this, tell me a little bit about what you think, who you call, you call roger stone your best friend, correct . Certainly among my best friends, ive known him since i was a young man i was his driver for a short time in my early 20s. Hes been woven in and out of my career for the last 30plus years. Known him a long, long time. I also know that roger is in pretty good, in a pretty good spot right now. I mean, its e ironic this slow rolf roger stone day, has been going on since july. And every thursday night reporters were calling roger, calling me, calling others that knew him, are you ready to get picked up tomorrow. It went on and on, every friday. Sometimes theyd skip a friday, about the every week. Roger stone day is friday. I think roger in some ways is relieved. And hes ready to take these charges on, headon. Martha one of the questions is whether or not, roger stone was involved with the campaign, then fired a a couple of months. The feeling is that he got pushed out by lewandowski, didnt want him on the campaign. Then hes on the outside and talking to his, sort of likeminded political friends, talking to you, jerome corsi, randy credico. Lots of buzz, i wonder if theres going to be something that drops, some Bad Information about Hillary Clinton. This indictment says that basically, some one in the Trump Campaign was nudging him along to say, like, can you find out when wikileaks is going drop this stuff. He was saying that he had a connection, and he could figure out when it was going to drop and making all of these statements about this information that was going to drop. Was he doing that because he had direct position, he had a link to the russians, he knew when it was going to drop . Or was he trying to sort of puff himself up and make himself useful to the campaign . Well, first of all you have to realize at no time did roger think wikileaks were the russians. Nor did he know tept he was interacting for a brief period on twitter that gusifer was connected to the russians. Roger argued this point, he was never at any time thinking he was talking to the russian when is he was trying to reach out to wikileaks. We know now, at least from the proof that weve seen and find out through this trial, that nobody ever got in touch with wikileaks when it came to roger trying to urge some, you know, the contact, wikileaks, through jerry corsi. Jerry corsi has never been in touch with wikileaks. The person giving him background information, as roger has always said, was an intermediary, named randy credico. Randy said things about roger, roger believes, are incorrect. Roger states now, and he has for weeks, that he has chapter and verse, email, texts, metadata that proves both of these men are lying. I can tell you, when i sat down with muellers team it was about collusion and conspiracy. Now its about two men willing to lie about roger stone. I think thats about where were at. Martha when you listen to the reports today and the way the indictment was interpreted, i read through the whole indictment this morning, you listen to the takeaway from that, some people were reporting today, they laid out a direct link that, you know, this is clear, now, goes from roger stone to wikileaks to the russians. But in fact that is not laid out in this indictment, as it exists. Also want to play one sound bite from an interview sean hannity did with Julian Assange. I submit for people to take what they will from home. Our source is not the russian government. Sean russia did not give you the podesta documents or anything from the dnc . Correct. Martha what did you make of that, michael . Thats a what roger believes as well. When the dnc documents came out that, were purloined, i immediately thought it was russia. I lived if russia for many years, i was sent there by the clinton administration, by the way, to meddle in their elections. I spent a long time. And i thought the russians worked. And i also thought that they had been so successful with their hacking and social media programs in ukraine and such that they were going to turn it on the United States. In the days that it happened, i thought that barack obama should do something about it. Roger didnt agree with that. Roger Still Believes to this day what Julian Assange said in the interview, hes not in any way related to the russians. But the bottom line of the whole thing, did roger stone ever get in contact with wikileaks, whether Julian Assange got the emails from the russians or Santa Claus Santa claus. Theres no linkage. Martha well see, hes going to get his day in court and you say hes looking forward to that. Hes salivating. Martha well see where it goes. Thank you, michael, good to see you. So, to 2020, this is fast becoming the mantra for 2020 democrats. An america that works only for the wealthy and the wellconnected, thats corruption plain and simple and we need to call it out for what it is. Martha coming up next. Youre made of trillions of cells. They Work Together doing important stuff. The hitch . Like you, your cells get hungry. Feed them. With centrum® micronutrients. Restoring your awesome. Daily. Feed your cells with centrum® micronutrients today. 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