The story. President trump has not rolled out a meeting with the iranians. He told reporters he never rolls anything out. Iran has not said the same. Their message, no talks until u. S. Lifts sanctions and reenters the iran deal. So tonight, as host of potential talks appear bleak and in the wake of the attacks on saudi arabias oil field earlier this month, irans foreign minister mohammed javon sharif is offering this dire assessmen assessment. Im confident im confident that whoever starts it will not be the one who finishes it. Harris that sounds like a threat. Fox news correspondent at large Geraldo Rivera with me right now. He met with him just over the weekend, you have an interesting take on this. I follow on twitter. Thank you, harris. Harris and i want to ask you i felly on television. Harris okay, thank you. You seem to be from your tweets, things Like Fighting children who grow up in the United States and having some space to give him to relief sanctions, why are you so proiran . What i am is profairness. It and i think the United States citizenry has been sold a bill of goods. Making saudi arabia the good guys somehow. 15 of the 19 9 11 hijackers. The financers of every Religious School in the muslim world. Saudi arabia is not the friend of the United States. The fact is that iran has been made the bogeyman. Iran did a terrible thing back in 1980 when the argument did you just say that iran made that we made iran the bogeyman . We have, definitely. Harris they held american citizens and double mats for 444 days inside the iranians rather the american embassy. We shut on the civilian aircraft and killed over 150 civilians, including children. We are not giving iran any fairness in terms of our deliberations. We opt to side with the saudis regardless of what theyve done and i have done horrible things. Harris so wait a minute, are you saying then that iran was legitimate if it did in fact hit the Saudi Oil Field . Im saying that war is war. Saudi arabia has been hitting yemen, supported by iran, for four and a half years. For four and a half years, saudi arabia using american bombers, american jets, have been killing yemeni civilians. It theyve been funerals, weddings, they have been absolutely committing more crimes. Harris is no one the yemeni faction that the saudis are fighting have tried with their drones and could very well they say the iranians are vehement in their denial that they did this attack on the saudi oil. It is not really a credible denial to think that the yemenis could mount that attacked themselves seems farfetched. It seems almost nonsensical. But they are saying that war hits both ways and this it was saudi arabias territory that was hit by iran may be. Thats between iran and saudi arabia. Its not between the United States. Harris lets just slow down for a second. You know they took out our our queue for a global hawk drone. They claim it was over their territory. Harris and we say the straight of hormuz. That thing was the size of a 737. The president held back. He has held back time and time again. And i appreciate that he did. Harris and now we have deployed troops to the region at that deployment not anything on their soil, not anything a direct threat, that has brought them a more direct threat towards the United States, and we know how they feel about israel, iran. I dont think bringing israel into this harris then why are you bringing the saudis into this . Because the saudis in the iranians are the two major powers in the persian gulf. Harris i get that. The control discussed oil reservoir. They hate each other. One is the prime she had country, the other is the prime sunni country. Theyve been at each others throats for decades. Its not our fight. Harris i want to bring in the president quickly responding to reports of attack near a Baghdad American Embassy tonight. We dont know all the details in this, but he was just act about it at the u. N. We note the french president is trying to meet with ronnie of iran. And we watch that really quickly . I dont know anything about it, they just all makes breaking news i will have to see it. I havent heard. When did this happen . Just now. No. We will look into it. Harris look al qaeda. Harris let me finish. We dont want to connect the dots here but im saying that while these meetings are going don to mike on the u. N. General assembly and everyone is focused in on iran, your defending iran. There is a lot breaking off in the world. What you think about the french president trying to mediate . I think its great, but i also think that having spoken with him for the third time, an extensive conversation, he says that president his boss, the iranian president , will not meet with the american president outside the four corners of the jcpoa. The Nuclear Agreement that President Trump withdrew from. They have a meeting scheduled for wednesday at the General Assembly. If rouhani were to come to that meeting and President Trump is at that meeting, it is very possible that they can talk and then harris you know who said they wont talk . At there. The president says never was anything out. Speaking with the foreign minister, he definitely off the door open that if the president our president was to go to that meeting on wednesday, that rouhani and trump could speak and maybe take the conversation out into the hallway at the president , our president does. I think you got to talk to these people. Youve got to negotiate with these people. Youve got to me, you know, more fairminded. Harris everybody wants to avoid war. Everybody is on that page. After bringing a senator or an expert in youre welcome. My next guest has a much different take on Geraldo Rivera and a new piece for foxnews. Com, republican senator rick scott says irans leaders have sent a message that if they cant sell oil, then no one can. That is essentially a declaration of war, gary rick scott, sits on the Armed Services committee and joins me. I think you probably are Geraldo Rivera and i would say he is somewhat defending iran, i want to get your reaction. First of, i just got back from israel a couple weeks ago and it went to the lebanese border. I went to the gaza strip. They are supporting hamas. Hamas is shooting rockets off. Putting appealing balloons with explosives to her children in israel and so and clearly iran is they are constantly saying they want to annihilate israel and we know that the missile that the facilities came from iran, theres no question about that. I think their goal is to dramatically impact the oil markets. Was going to get hurt, its actually not going to be the United States, its going to be europe, its going to be china but if iran actually wanted to be part of the world community, stop being stop getting all of these giving weapons to all of these horrible individuals or groups that are trying to annihilate israel and because all this unrest in the middle east. Try to be part of the world market. Its crazy, what they are doing. Harris s were to talk about again, ive got Geraldo Rivera sitting by as we kind of been drawing at one another over the fact that he seems to support iran in this process. Senator, youre saying that youre fairly certain now that he wanted this. Have you seen intelligence that maybe you can share anything about meg because democrats are saying we have to wait and see. Look, its always good to do everything we can to make sure every bit of intelligence that ive been told about is that it came from iran. They did this. Is geraldo right that we should be disgusted with what the strategies did with khashoggi . That was absolutely the wrong thing. But rather than taking saudi arabia, lets make sure lets hold iran accountable. Why are they doing what theyre doing with hezbollah. Why are they doing what theyre doing with hamas . Why would they called they clearly have said they want to annoy out the mic annihilate israel, our partner, our ally. Harris senator, we have sold them weapons. In saudi arabia, can they not hold on. I think its a legitimate question to be able to at least ask about what they can do for themselves. Absolutely. Heres what you should be impressed with, israel defends itself. We provided a lot of resources. You really have to admire the Israeli Defense force. We should expect that for all of our allies. So my focus though is iran has got to change. You want somebody to have a Nuclear Weapon if it wants to annihilate your ally . You can do that. Harris death to america too. Right. They want to annihilate israel. They want to wipe them off the face of the earth. What do they say, theres not going to be enough gravesites for all the people they are going to kill in israel . Its an act of war. Not somebody want to do business with. I love you as a governor, i love you have a senator. But if there was an act of war to a protected saudi on the oil then why is it an act of war to choke iran so they cant sell the oil . Isnt at the same thing connection to be fairness . The president unilaterally said he wants to renegotiate the nuclear deal, so lets renegotiate the nuclear deal. Harris geraldo, you got to step in. Sender if you would like to respond. Geraldo, i agree with you. The first thing we ought to try to do is sit down with people, but its very difficult when somebody is saying death to america and they are saying harris do you think that we might see that . Wiped off the face of the earth. Harris is there a place that may outside the official General Assembly meetings that the french president or anybody can facilitate that . President trump says he doesnt need anybodys help because hes open to sitting down with anyone buried him President Trump he doesnt want to go to war. He talks to everybody. Theyve got to be part of this. What has iran done to say they want to have a legitimate conversation . Harris i havent. They just want back in a deal. Europe is got to be feeling conflicted. Its a bad deal. Harris more of the coalition will have to come along but they are still in that deal. Its complicated. Senator rick scott of the great state of florida, thank you for joining with that and being patient as geraldos mike is still hot. Good to see you. 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Harris a Surprising New development in the case of a whistleblower was complaint about President Trumps phone call with the ukrainian president has set off a political firestorm. A source now has fox news that whistleblower did not have quote unquote firsthand knowledge of the conversation and that typically multiple u. S. Officials are on such calls with the president , but this would indicate the whistleblower was not one of those people. Senate democrats are now employing their republican colleagues to issue a subpoena for the complaint. House democrats also want their hands on a copy when acting director of National IntelligenceJoseph Maguire testifies in front of the House Intel Committee this thursday. I want to bring in now karl rove, former deputy chief of staff to president george w. Bush. And mo elleithee, executive director of georgetown universitys institute of politics and public service, both are fox news contributors. Lets start if we can with the startling Development Today about not firsthand and what that dumps into the political conversation. Carl. Well, its a big news item. It obscures some bigger issues that lie behind it but look, here somebody that honestly saw some kind of written summary, a written report on the president s conversation, was not privy to it, may not have seen the entire transcript, but filed a whistleblower complaint and what we know is that first of all, the president has a right, any president to have confidential conversations with foreign leaders. He is, after all, under the constitution charged with the direction of americas Foreign Policy and the idea that every conversation the president of the United States would be subject to the call of the United States congress upon a whim would be an utter unmitigated disaster for the conduct of u. S. Foreign policy. Harris you know the other part of it, mo, really has to do with the anticipation of the foreign leaders who also expect for those calls to be kept confidential. Sure. But, this whistleblower pass this information along to the Inspector General for the Intelligence Community. The Inspector General found it to be urgent and credible. Enough to submit it to the director. It Inspector Generals dont tend to to go off willynilly d just take your say at face value. They look into it and then if they find it urgent and credible, they will pass it on, and thats the case here. Easiest way to come to the bottom of this is look at the transcript. Harris you know that dni letter said not to meet the right requirements. Go ahead. Yeah. I was just going to say, that was what the Inspector General said, his boss, the acting director of National Intelligence deferred the issue to the department of justice, and the office of Legal Counsel came back and said the sad statute doesnt apply to the president of the president of auschwitz communications. There is no authority to do this and i repeat, we went all the conversations that president obama had. We went all the conversations that president bush had. We want the primer stations that president clinton had. What congress would stand for that what president would stand for that if congress made those demands . None of them would buried harris real quickly, we put together some calls for impeachment based on all this might even with the facts that have first, lets take a look and i will get reaction from each of you. He has solicited another Foreign Government to attack our election system. It is time for us to call out this illegal behavior and start impeachment proceedings right now. Manager absolutely right away begin impeachment proceedings. That may be the only remedy that is coequal to the evil that that conduct represents buried harris that thirst is real in your. Yeah, sure it is. But look, ive always been a voice that says lets not go too fast on the impeachment front, lets get all the information. I think there is a situation here that could resolve this issue in a very measured way, and thats give the transcript to the Senate Intelligence community. The Senate Intelligence community has a record of working in a very bipartisan way with the chair and vice chair and trying to get to the bottom of issues. They havent gone sort of throttle throughout the term presidency the way the house ha has, so give the transcript to the Senate Intelligence committee and let them look at it. Harris prior to the release of the Mueller Report and they said if it shows with the president didnt actually commit a crime, if theres nothing there they are, if theres no smoking gun, so to speak, we will move on. I would ask the same thing now. Democrats have to be very careful with this. Quick last word, karl. They have to be. Elizabeth warren is sitting there saying nobody should invite them into our political campaign. How tonedeaf is she . Fairly clinton in 2016 an Opposition Research from that offered an expert Foreign Service agent within called up his friends in the russian Intelligence Community in