Unjustified. Heres what he has said. This is a blown way out of proportion, in a 24hour period that the lack its the same that people were inconvenienced but at the end of the day were talking about a couple hours. Being able to come to america is a privilege, not a right. Tucker joining us now, this refugees settlement director thank you for joining us, mark. Part of it, you said this. With the stroke of a pen, donald trump has advocated American Values. I compared that against the public polling on the question and i thought it was interestin interesting. 57 agree with this. It is also going back a long time, i know you know this, strikingly low favorability on the question of whether we should admit refugees at all. Over the summer just for example, there was a poll on should we admit Syrian Refugees . 64 did not support it. Are they not aware of American Values . Would you make of these people . All i will say is that my Organization Works on the behalf of the American Jewish community. We wouldve closed down the 19th century if we went on poles. Refugees have never been popular per se. Thats why americans slammed their doors on refugees in 1921. People were trapped inside of europe in the holocaust and could not escape because the United States and other countries failed to protect refugees, failed to allow people to flee. Tucker you are saying the holocaust happened because of American Immigration . No, absolutely not. What did happen was america turned its back on refugees at that. Period. We are not responsible for the crisis in syria but we have some response ability to protect the refugees that are fighting for their lives. Tucker heres why asked that first question. You have a legitimate point of view, for sure. When you invoke the phrase American Values it suggests a set of absolute rules and i am not sure i know what those rules are. Lets get right to what the rules are about American Values as you put it. Who has a right to come here . Him it is not about having a right to come here, its about america standing up for refugee refugees. Tucker i think we are basically saying the same thing. In obligation. They dont have a right to come here per se but a refugee has been approved for Refugee Status by the government should be allowed to come here. They were all turned away. I had to spend my saturday dealing with a syrian mother, her 5yearold daughter, 8yearold daughter, who is trying to join her husband who had asylum in connecticut. They had an approval notice, if cleared and abetted. They got on a plane in a mound where they been living in a settlement. They get turned around at jfk. Tucker that sounds like a nightmare. Im very sympathetic to them. But i want to get back to the core principle here. You are saying it is an American Value to admit refugees. Im asking you what the standards are. 60 million refugees according to the united nations. Poverty, bad government, no health care. What percentage of those do we have an obligation under the American Values you refer to to admit . I will tell you one thing, the percentage is not zero. I am not going to tucker anyone who is against what you are for is somehow thats a big thing to say. America has been welcoming refugees throughout its history, with some very shameful interruptions such as the interruption between 1921 and 1965. Tucker you are not answering the question. How do i know which refugees need to come here if im going to apply the American Values that you are referring to . What are the rules . If youre going to run about with moral statements, tell me what the rules are so i can be a good person. Its become you need to welcome those people who need protectio. The United States need to play a role. The United States is the leader and refugee protection. What makes us a leaders and not the number that we take. Its how we treat refugees when they come here. He is not known as a refugee when the come here, we dont put them in camps, we welcome them as new americans. Tucker we spend huge amounts of money on them, as you know. It takes a lot of tax dollars. Im glad you raised that. Tucker im saying we are really generous. You are not answering the question which is, in a world where there are tens of millions of people who are fleeing all sorts of awful things, how do we know what our obligation is . You said we have an obligation, you do this for a living, you are a smart guy, tell me so i can evaluate all future policies through that lens. You just of my organization takes a lot of tax dollars. I am obligated to respond to that. Tucker get to my question, though. We get 2,075 per refugee. That is true, from the state department. What do we do with that . Pick them up at the airport, bring them to the apartment which we rent. We pay three months rent for that apartment. We stock it with food, put furniture in it. We get the kids in school. We got them some medical appointments. Tucker i am glad. But you are dodging the questio question. We teach them english. I pay my staff without money. 2,075. Try to pay rent without amount of money. For three months. Tucker you are a little defensive on the question. The majority of your money comes from taxpayers. They have an interest in knowing what the rules are. With the policy is. Its not just you are a private organization, you are taking money from people by force through the tax code. It our money. How do we know we have an obligation to let someone in . Do we have an obligation to let all 60 Million People in . Absolutely not. How can we play a role, how can the United States make refugees safe by taking some and allowing the host country to protect. Tucker but not with any specifically, youre not answering my question. Scapegoat vulnerable human beings, to confuse those who are fleeing terror with terrorism. Tucker i feel for them and i think they are probably very good people. Anyone who is worried about refugees, your statement says, as some kind of crackpot or a bad person. I can review the list of terror attacks or plots by refugees. They are real, theres not a ton but there are some. The people have a right to be concerned. Of course. Everyone who comes to this country should be screened and refugees are screened more thoroughly than any immigrant or any american. Tucker to ask the refugees that you bring in do you believe for example in female genital mutilation . We dont bring in tucker to do you ask questions like refugees tend to be very apolitical. Tucker why dont you ask them do you believe in the country you are coming to . They have one thing on their mind, they want a normal life. They want to become americans. Tucker do they believe in the constitution . One of the great things about this country is it refugees are on the path to citizenship the moment they enter. Tucker youre not answering my questions. Part of that is to take a civil civic exam, swear allegiance to the constitution. Tucker you are saying youre paying for their schooling, getting them jobs, you dont want a bunch of people believing in female genital mutilation coming to our country . Why dont you say we dont do that here . Homeland security scans refugees, not me. I told you how much money we got and what we do without money. Tucker we are out of time. Trumps executive order isnt just barking defiance from protesters, its also riling up the Justice Department. Her department will refuse to we are joined by trace gallagher. Hey, trees. The reason the acting attorney general will not defend the president s executive orders is because she is not convinced it is legal. In a statement late today, sally eight said my responsibility is not only legally defensible y our best view. Critics say her decision is much more political than legal. In the meantime, despite protests and legal challenges, the administration is calling it a Success Story with the president himself blaming any disorganization on others, tweeting. Referring of course to Chuck Schumer who teared up when he talked about the band. Today, trump signed another executive order living up to his one into ad campaign promise, meaning for every new regulation the feds want to impose on businesses, to existing regulations would have to be defunded by the office of management and budget. Before signing the order, mr. Trump invited Business Leaders to the white house for a listening session where he said its time to let Small Businesses thrive. Watch. The American Dream is back. We are going to create an environment for Small Businesses like we havent had in many, many decades. This is not on this is a knock on everybody. So far wall street has embraced the trump presidency, though the markets were down today over what experts called the uncertainty surrounding the president S Immigration order. Tucker well, trace gallagher, thanks a lot. The refugee story is giving one of americas hottest companies a grand opportunity for more posturing. The ceo of huber said our company is always standing up for what is right, it he pledged to use ubers lawyers for the ban. The companys entire Business Model relies on using illegal loopholes to deny Drivers Health coverage or an offense. And over executive once called for the targeting of families of critical journalists and then leaking their personal Information Online as a form of intimidation. Perhaps uber is not the Ideal Company to giving the rest of us sanctimonious lectures. Get back to us, if you would. The Screen Actors Guild award was last night, he can probably guess where this is going. A bunch of stars used what may have been a nonpolitical event as an opportunity to denounce the government. This immigrant band is a blemish and it is unamerican. Anyone that is in an airport belongs in my america. You are part of the fabric of who we are and we love you and we welcome you. Tucker this spells trouble ahead for the new administration because when you lose hollywood, you always lose santa monica and that is not good. Coming up, the Trump Administration has a furiously active first week. We talked to steve miller, top advisor to the president , coming up. A california lawmaker wants to mandate the school teaches kids that russia hacked the last american election. We will talk about what inspired this idea. Add one a day mens complete with key nutrients we may need. Plus hearthealth support with b vitamins. One a day mens in gummies and tablets. With toothpaste or plain water. An their dentures and even though their dentures look clean, in reality theyre not. 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Thank you for having me here, mr. Koehlers home. Mr. Carlson. Tucker you arent particularly spun up about these executive orders. What bothers you about this . We have seen a lot of action coming from the white house since january 20th. It just seems like we see so much coming at us, so much to read. We are responding. For me, i am very troubled to feel that President Donald Trump who was elected this is a man who did not receive the majority of the popular vote, that is a first for the country. It is emblematic of the fact that we are pretty divisive as a country right now, upon political spectrums, rural versus liberal. The country right now its reacting. There are a lot of people who feel like their voices were not heard during the selection. I think what we are seeing tucker you are reacting for sure. It has happened before. Whatever, i see your point. You dont like trump. Have you read the executive orders that you are protesting against . I have read a number of them. I have not read all of them. If he signed more he did sign more than i can probably count. Different islamic organizations, aclu are spreading messages about what is happening. I am also reading about the federal judges whove been ruling as well. And the attorney general, statewide and nationally who are also decreeing orders. There is a lot to read out there. Im not going to say that ive read everything. Its just happening so fast. We have a white house that is taking action. Tucker you can pull it up. Just in case he did not read it, heres a part that you may agree this. I thought of you when i read this. The United States should not admit those who engage in actions of bigotry or hatred, those who oppress americans of any race, gender, or Sexual Orientation. Do you agree with that . I am curious about how that relates to the seven countries that was put on the travel immigration refugee ban. Tucker what are the seven countries . You are asking which . Iran, iraq, i cant list all of them. There is five others. I believe that turkey is probably on that, syria is probably on it. Tucker there are different countries. Here is the point saudi arabia is not on it. Trump has had business interest in that we have seen not on the list. How do you get on that list or not . Tucker i want to get back to this quote then, what you think of that . You should make sure before people come here that they are not going to be committing acts of discrimination when they get here. I am just really confused there were people who were already in the air, who have family here, and they can leave the airport. Have we not already proven that they love this country . Tucker i want to get back to the specific do you think it is a good idea or not . Should we say hey, we do not discriminate on the basis of race or or Sexual Orientation . Are you for that . Tucker the application of this executive order is already questionable. They have never shown these people are being discriminated against. We are burning bridges in this country. Tucker well be right back. Fox news alert, President Trump has fired sally yates of georgia. He is naming dana in the acting role in her place. Steve miller will be here to discuss his breaking news which is significant. Right now, back to Chris Cameron whitten. Sorry to break you in there, you just heard that the president has fired the acting attorney general. I want to get back to something you just said. He said you showed up in airports and part of the reason you want is because there were virtuous refugees stuck in those airports and they could not get in the country. I wonder if it occurred to that by protesting outside those airports, you prevented normal people from getting on airplanes and going to do their jobs or to see their family or an ailing loved one. Im wondering why you thought you had the right to do that. It hurt people who had nothing to do with these executive orders or might agree with you. Why did you have a right to hurt them . I want to bring her back to the fact that this all happened because people were not able to come onto american soil. I understand you are asking now out of concern about people that were inconvenienced. We have people who celebrated their First Amendment rights, the act of nonviolent civil disobedience we know that democracy is messy. We have people who defend freedom here and abroad. Tucker cameron, ive heard all of this before. I agree with the First Amendment. I just want to ask a really simple human question. Did you think about the people you were hurting when you blocked access to airports . There is some normal person who wants to get through. Their motivation is love. That is why we are out here. We are out there so we can spread a message that the entire world can hear. We cannot allow one person who just got into office now treat the narrative for this country. People are out there showing love. Tucker what about the normal people . They got on the planes. It happened, actually. Tucker for a man who is