Transcripts For FOXNEWSW Tucker Carlson Tonight 20171003 06:

FOXNEWSW Tucker Carlson Tonight October 3, 2017 06:00:00

Great time and all of a sudden these fireworks went off, all the fireworks, we were just kind of laughing and having a wonderful time in the growth taking the photo says oh, my god, i think its gunfire and we are all having this moment, that cant possibly be gunfire, to rapid, too fast and i just sent photos to your crew, we have video of this. He looked down on the concert, 46 floors up. What we dont know at that moment is where the lowest were left at about 7 00 is the gunma gunman. Its impossible to imagine because its all glass, theres no balconies, theres no way anybody could be doing that. And she said i think theres bodies all over the ground, people are lying down and were literally telling her theres gunfire, people are just kind of hitting the ground, it will be fine. It got weirder and weirder, they ushered us into the Foundation Room and all of a sudden the s. W. A. T. Guys come in with big machine guns and start yelling at us, get down, get down and we are thinking of the bad guys, right now we are all thinking that we are under attack. I bolted out back i was the only one who ran out to the patio like your friend just that, im hiding behind a potted plant thinking oh, my god, theres somebody whos going to shoot me any minute. Worst moment of my life. Fortunately we were nowhere in harms way, i guess if you turn the gun upwards, but from a Vantage Point its hard to believe, we all then got ushered back into the Foundation Room im really tired. We were locked down and we were Learning News the way you were but for those of us in the room where thinking theres a bomb, we are hearing theres a bomb in the bellagio and the flamingo, 30 gunman, we are hearing all these crazy rumors and nobody freaked out and everybody was very calm but it has been a very, very long night and im having a hard time. Tucker i cant even imagine. The truth is we know not all that much more now than we did 12 or 18 hours ago. We still dont know very much about this man or why he did it but i can imagine your panic when armed men come into your room and start yelling, i cant even imagine. Thank you for joining us, im glad youre okay. Im fine and im happy to help out in anyway, i have to tell you, the weirdest moment in my life was walking out this moment, they finally let us go after about ten hours, seeing the las vegas trip with no cars, theres Nobody Gambling Or Playing In The Mood here is pretty amazingly tragic. Tucker something really awful about that. Thank you very much. The mayhem at the mandalay bay ended only when Stephen Paddock killed himself just before the police breached the door to his hotel room, we have sound of that happening, here it is. I need everybody in the hallway to be aware of it and get back. Tucker there it is. One of the things that jumped out at everyone who listened to the audio of this attack last night was that it sounded like automatic weapons fire, which is unusual in this country. What exactly was this man wielding when he killed so many . Forensic chris is a former marine and active shooter expert and they both join us tonight. Chris, first to you, there is usually a lot of focus on the firearms, which may or may not be that relevant, but in this case it may be is relevant because it did sound like automatic weapons fire. It was eight, and if so what does that mean exactly . You can tell by the rate of fire, good evening, tucker. Im sorry to be with you for this reason. The rate of fire is what we call cyclic rate, its firing as fast as the front gun is capable of firing. To get it to do that its either functionally automatic weapon from a manufacturer which means while you hold on the trigger it will continue to fire until it runs out of ammunition, or as you feed it, or its a semiautomatic and as fast as you can pull the trigger, or rounds will grow out. If this seems to be a fully automatic sound from the background whether its. 223 or. 208 rounds. However, you can make these kits and you can get them and convert them on your own. Its not too far off per se, but the deterrent to do it is horrible. The atf has got a very strong hold on this. Tucker you cant do that. Right. They are legal if you purchase them with a stamp. Tucker i know that, but what i dont understand is how hard is it . My understanding is you had to be a relatively talented gunsmith to do that, but you dont . No, sir. Im not going to tell you how on tv but you can basically change a couple pieces within the mechanism near the trigger and turn it semiautomatic weapon into a fully automatic. Tucker you get in a lot of trouble for that, this guy of course didnt care. Doctor, what are pathologists learning as they examined the victims of this tragedy, what will they be looking for . One of the things that pathologists will do is remove as many bullets as they can for the police and the police will go around to the Coroners Office and to each of the hospitals to get every bullet that is removed from every patient and they will then be able to find [vo] quickbooks introduces rodney. He has a new business teaching lessons. Rodney wanted to know how his business was doing. So he got quickbooks. It organizes all his accounts, so he can see his bottom line. Ahhh. Thats a profit. Know where you stand instantly. Visit quickbooksdotcom. Want sure ck . Alright, looks like weve got chips, popcorn, pretzels . Pretzels plain, sourdough, spicy, sesame, honey mustard, chocolate covered, Peanut Butter filled, this ones in german, it says, reindfleisch . Plain. Great. So what are we gonna watch . Oh show me fall tv. Check out the best of the best handpicked fall shows on xfinity x1, online, and the Xfinity Stream app. Thirsty . Tucker it wasnt hours after this event that some politicians in washington called for new Gun Legislation in the wake of the student. Congressman Henry Cuellar represent the state of texas, he has an a rating from the nra, he joins us tonight to assess this, thanks for coming on. Thank you so much. Tucker we dont even know the basic answers to the questions of why this happened. Does it seem a little premature to you to get into a complex debate of Light Gun Control within hours of his . Absolutely. I think we need to wait, let the First Responders, but the Law Enforcement find out exactly what happened and then we can have another debate. Right now we pray for the families, we thank the First Responders for doing a good job but they still have a lot of work because just listen to all those stories, it just doesnt make sense. He doesnt fit the pattern of somebody that would do Something Like this, especially somebody at that particular age. Tucker you grew up on a ranch in texas hunting . You must of been surrounded by guns because renters are filled with guns. Because i learned at a very young age from my father how to hunt. I got th ree brothers are peace officers so weve been around guns for a very young age. Even if you take guns away we know somebody can kill somebody using an airplane, a knife, a truck. Exactly. I think we need to just let the Law Enforcement do the work and we can always have time for political debate. Tucker its when people come out immediately after an event like this without knowing any of the facts, it suggests to the rest of us that they have been kind of waiting for an opportunity to push a preexisting agenda on the country. It makes people really nervous, can you see why . Not that there waiting for the next event but i think we have had several events in the past years and i think there are some people who believe in guncontrol, i dont believe in guncontrol. I think you can have responsible people do the right thing with a gun but unfortunately sometimes you get a situation like this that its hard to explain but just taking guns away from everybody is not going to solve the issue. Tucker why do people keep saying that . Can you think of a single place in the United States that has become safe because of gun control . No. Tucker right. I dont think anyone else can think of when either so why do people keep proposing it . There are some people just feel that guns are the problem but i think its a little bit more complicated than that. As you know, i dont believe that. Im a big believer in the Second Amendment but there are some people who feel you have to take guns away. Tucker a totally nonpolitical and Sincere Question and i dont know the answer to it. There were no Mass Shootings when you were a kid, there was one, the university of texas. Thats right. Tucker he had a brain tumor. They want a feature of american life, what has changed, what is going on . I dont know. After look at every individual case and lets see what the investigators find out. There has to be something, lets see what happened in this particular case. Tucker i just hope that we in the press arent adding to it, something that we think about a lot, we dont want to be part of the problem. The stories we are, incredible. Tucker they are incredible, incredibly sad. Its great to see you, i appreciate it. Including postage and a digital scale. Go to stamps. Com tv and never go to the post office again. Las vegas, this morning she tweeted the crowd fled at the sound of gunshots, imagine the deaths if the shooter had a silencer, which the enemy wants to make it easier to get. Clinton then added without a trace of irony, our grief is not enough, we must put politics aside, stand up to the nra and Work Together to stop this from happening again. A radio show host, what was your response to Hillary Clintons tweet . It was shocking and it was also ghoulish. She put out that tweet at about 7 15 00 a. M. Eastern time. If the police in las vegas were still removing bodies as of 2 00 p. M. Pacific time. We also know that not everyone had died, we still have more deaths. This is a moment without any details moving immediately into a political framework and immediately going into the pet issue. Americans know as youve discussed your entire show that we have a problem. We are going to be dealing with what caused this and the issue of the firearms. But when you go to the element of the guns, what it does is it sucks all the air out of the room to deal with the underlying major issue, which is the Human Condition that drives this issue. Just as one example, mayo clinic says 70 of people in america are on a Prescription Drug. Opioids and antidepressants being the majority of them. Over 50 of americans are on at least two Prescription Drugs, the things that we never discuss, which is the nature of what would push someone over a ledge like this in the modern age never is addressed because we all get moved in by politicians to this issue. We are going to find out what made this an automatic weapon, we will address that. Immediately it divides it immediately removes the compassion within the nature of what we should be doing today. And i think americans, this is exactly what americans are tired of. Tucker flesh that out a little bit, i should state the out obvious, im hardly a doctor and have no evidence that Prescription Drug use has anything to do with this. I have long suspected that there probably are effects if you have a huge percentage of the country on mind altering drugs, why wouldnt their behavior change . At least we need to begin to ask and because we dont know. We dont ask that question in addition to, as you brought up in your program, the issue of media, the nature of the horrible, bloodied carnage that we have been watching for years since september 11th 2001. We are becoming inured in a certain way. This is the Human Condition, this is what we have to deal with but then theres also the hypocrisy of washington and of someone like mrs. Clinton, who in that Tennessee Church shooting where one woman was murdered, seven injured, the massacre only stopped because of a heroic usher. She has said i found this hard to believe but its true, nothing about that particular attack and if the issue really is about guns we dont see a consistency in this. In the meantime, we struggle as a society to want to find a solution as we elevate the heros that we see in the midst of Something Like this and this is also again what americans are seeing about the condition of our society, how politicians are not necessarily saying and doing the right thing and how we are tired of being divided in this regard. Tucker i would like to get to the deeper question, i think its a really smart point. Thank you. A democrat representing Northern California joins us tonight. Thanks for coming on. Hillary clintons tweet was the crowd fled to the sound of gunshots, imagine the deaths if the shooter had a silencer. I would silencer have made the deaths a higher number of deaths . First, my heart aches in my hands pray for the victims with deep gratitude for the First Responders. They ran into a building not knowing where he was shooting. I think your point is congress is considering not doing more to prevent Mass Shootings but actually the only legislation around on firearms is to allow silencers. Tucker what does that have to do with this though . She said imagine the deaths if the shooter had a silencer, do you think she thinks a silencer would make a rifle silent, did she think that because if she thinks that maybe she should be weighing in on it. Social media has given up thousand of perspectives, a silencer was allowed, if people could buy, maybe they wouldnt have further gunshots and more people would have died. Spoon i guess thats what bothers me when policymakers weigh in on things about which they know nothing. Silencer would not silence an automatic fire, it might suppress its own but it is loud as hell. You have to wear earplugs even with a suppressor unmanned. Most people might not know that but if you are to weigh in on and we are all sort of obligated to take your opinion seriously, maybe you should know what youre talking about, but she doesnt and the reason im bringing this up is because its emblematic of this entire debate. Nobody pushing for gun control can name a single piece of gun control legislation that would have prevented this or any other shooting unless im mistaken i got one. Its still early. Tucker right why only democrats jumping up and down about the National Tragedy of the nra and we need more gun control, what gun control would have ended this . I think when you watch so many people who are helpless and running you think that our lawmakers under the capitol dome, we are not helpless. Before the trigger is squeezed you are actually able to do something. Whether its universal background checks, ammunition restrictions, making sure we dont have silencers or of course making sure that a weapon of war is only in the hand of a warrior. Tucker you are doing exactly what you just conceded is false and unhelpful. You are socalled silencers into it when we both know that that would have had no effect at all. You are a lawmaker, Hillary Clinton tried to be the president of the United States, came pretty close. Dont people like you want or have an obligation to know what you are talking about before you try and change our laws . I know what im talking about and i look at the fear that people have and i think that they expect us to at least have a dialogue, shouldnt be a factorbased dialogue . Of course. Tucker this is a soliloquy designed to make the rest of us angry and fearful. Dialogue is when i say here is what i believe and heres why. But thats not what she is engaging in, thats not what senator bennet we need to ban automatic weapons, they are already banned, theyve been banned since the great depression. They still have no idea what theyre talking about, why dont they learn something . I think a lot of us are tired of being quiet and there are a lot of good republican ideas around Mental Health in the last guest mention Prescription Drugs, lets talk about all of that bullets do more than be silent. Tucker im totally for that. Im for a real conversation, something strange is going on in america. Im 48, this was not a feature of my childhood, this is a new thing and something is causing it. But the prescription from the left is always the same come up ban certain guns, banned certain bullets, ban certain magazines, silencers. And yet they dont feel an obligation to explain how that would solve a problem because they know it wouldnt because thats not their agenda. Thats what scares me. Tonight congressman john lewis, mike thompson, speaker line, lets just have a Bipartisan Task force, but every thing on the table and look at the facts of the shooting and others but lets do something that shows we are not helpless, we can actually address this issue. Tucker why would i trust someone who points to silencers within hours of the shooting as the cause or an exacerbating factor, thats moronic . Silencers would make more shootings like this actually easier to accomplish and congress right now tucker how exactly does that happen . You are sticking with that Talking Point . Its not true. Have you ever fired a weapon with a suppressor . What kind . Ar15. We go out and look at the weapons that were taken off the streets. Tucker you fired in ar15, suppresses the sound, it makes it harder for victims to hear it so its just another tool. Tucker s eve actually fired a rifle with a suppressor on it you are telling me that you didnt have to wear earplugs when you did that . It suppresses some, tucker did you have to wear earplugs . You should always wear earplugs. Tucker thats how loud, its super loud. I just shot when the other day. You cant look at me straight in the face and say it would be undetectab

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