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FOXNEWSW Tucker Carlson Tonight October 25, 2017

Contact us by the disgust he felt watching Media Coverage of the russia story. Not only were most reporters getting it wrong, they were getting it backward. The russians were in fact deeply involved in american politics, but the real story had almost nothing to do with the 2016 president ial campaign. Intrigued, we agreed to meet with at source today. He just left our offices here in washington a couple of hours ago. The story he told us is astonishing. We will be following up on it, confirming more of it and bringing you details about it this week and after. At first, heres an overview of what he told us. Media reports describe Paul Manafort as a central figure in the russia investigation due to the several months he spent as Donald Trumps campaign chairman. According to our source, thats only half true. He is indeed at the center of this investigation, but not because of his ties to trump. In fact, Paul Manafort spent years working with the Podesta Group on behalf of russian government interests. That relationship extends back to at least 20111 oh source claims manafort had dinner with both podesta for less. He saw him in the offices all the time. At least once a month. Manafort was not there to socialize, he was representing russian business and political interests, who sought to influence capitol hill, Hillary Clinton state department and the Obama Administration. Our source describes manafort bringing what he called a parade of russian oligarchs after the congress where they met with members and their staffs. But the central effort to extend russian influence was focused on the executive branch, the Obama Administration. The vehicle through which Paul Manafort worked for the russians was a shell group called the European Center for a modern ukraine. The group supposedly was based in belgium, but it had no actual offices there. It had in fact only two employees, both of them based in ukraine. Their telephone number in brussels rang, it was a sham. It did have a presence in washington. European center for a modern ukraine was a major client of the Podesta Group. Why did the russians choose the Podesta Group . Well, because both podestas for close to the clintons. She could get things done to the clients. It was influence peddling, the most obvious kind. For example, our source says that at John Podestas recommendation, his brother tony hired a man named david adams. Before joining the podesta grou group, adams worked at the state department as assistant secretary of state for legislative affairs. He was also chief legislative advisor to Hillary Clinton. As part of his job, he personally briefed Hillary Clinton every day. He aided in the confirmation of at least 122 political nominees at state. By hiring him in 2013, our source says, at the Podesta Group got a direct liaison between their offices and by extension their russian clients, and hillarys state department. Sometimes, our source said, ties between the Podesta Group and the clintons were explicit. Tony podesta spoke regularly to Hillary Clinton while she ran the state department. Secretary clinton is on the line. At one point in either 2013 or maybe early 2014 our source says a meeting was held that included both 20 podesta and a representative of the Clinton Foundation. Explicit subject of that meetin meeting . How to assist uranium one, thats the russian owned company that owns 20 of american uranium production, and whose Board Members gave more than 100 million to the Clinton Foundation. As our source put it, tony podesta was basically part of the Clinton Foundation. Apparently there was not a lot of pretending about this internally at the Podesta Group. According to our source, manafort was clear, Crystal Clear that russia wanted to cultivate ties to Hillary Clinton in the belief she was likely to become president. These links to hillary were apparently quite valuable to the russians. Our source believes that the russian money manafort funnel to the Podesta Group greatly exceeds the roughly 1 millionth they were officially paid. Thats what he said. Some of these payments he indicated could be hidden kickbacks that would be hard for investigators to trace. Our source described the groups books as a treasure trove, and highly secret. He told us the group had no board overseeing it and that all Financial Decisions internally or made by tony podesta personally. The groups he said, included a person whose only official job was managing tony podestas art collection. It would be obviously pretty easy for an organization like that to conceal financial transactions. The source we spoke to has been interviewed extensively by Robert Muellers independent investigators. The investigation is still framed for a hunt for collusion between Donald Trumps president ial campaign and the government of russia. Our source says investigators are very interested in manaforts behavior while he went from campaign, but otherwise that description is mostly focused. The investigation has broadened now to determine which people and which organization in washington have spent years working secretly as de facto operatives on behalf of russian government and business interests. The Podesta Group is chief among these. They are more focused on facilitators of russian influence in this country, says our source, then they are on election collusion. The Podesta Group he says is in their cross hairs. We should note the obvious, many of the lobbying efforts are source described are not yet illegal necessarily and i told you a lot about modern american politics. But if true, the story we heard overturns much of what we think we know about russian attempts to influence american policy. We believe our source is telling the truth. We dont think he has reason to lie to us. The fact weve been able to check have turned out to be accurate. If we believe our source has exposed behavior that undermines this country, but that unfortunately is common here in washington. We plan to proceed carefully as we report this out, but we will proceed bringing you everything went fine. If we suspect theres a lot there. Brit hume joins us tonight. The fact, or the idea from our source that Paul Manafort was working for the Podesta Group on behalf of russian interests before running the Trump Campaign changes this story completely, it seems to me. It does to change completely. It suggests that what collusion there have been was between Paul Manafort and the Podesta Group on behalf of russian interests. The Podesta Group these two guys, tony and john, they lie at the heart of the Democratic Party and certainly of the clintons and their political endeavors. This changes the whole character and focus and it does raise also the question. Youre coming around to getting at this now, thats remarkable on your part to have gotten this source to come and talk to you, how could it be that all these journalists working for other news organizations have been chasing the story, these many months, and never run across any of this . Remarkable indeed. Tucker thats exactly the point. Youve been in journalism longer than ive been alive, how could the central front group that manafort was representing, the money goes through the Podesta Group and nobody notices . 75 employees in washington, no one has mentioned this to a journalist in the last 11 months . I find that not believable. Its pretty striking, and it suggests that the work has been done on the story has not been of the best quality or this would have turned out and i would also suggest that you have a pack of journalists who are so determined to follow one story line that they completely missed this. But this is a big deal on a lot of levels. It is particularly noteworthy that we hear that Robert Mueller is on this and suggested that his investigation, which might have been initially about russian efforts to influence the election, is now much more broad gazed effort to determine the extent and depth of russian efforts to influence american policy going back several years. If thats the case, and if all we hear about the podestas is true, seems to be the democrats have been complaining about this and making all kinds of allegations about this all this time are going to be very disappointed in the outcome. Tucker considering for the last year we heard that america faces no greater for, has never faced a greater foe then putins russia and seeking to undermine our democracy and destroy our country, and now it turns out the two of the people closest to Hillary Clinton were working for them. I dont really know how democrats will respond to that. Was also the case, if we look at this uranium one matter that is coming more and more to light, it appears that we have the Obama Administration in its effort to seek a closer relationship with russian acquiescing a sale of materials that are strategic and that could certainly be argued place American Security interests at some risk and all of this going on of course while unlike what youve just reported, this has been known for some time, but it seems to be coming into sharper focus at the moment and will be the subject of investigations going forward. Democrats can scream a lot and they no doubt will that all of that is a diversion, but im beginning to think that those claims and accusations are going to ring a Little Hollow in light of what your reporting and in light of what else is coming out even as we speak tonight. Tucker we cant get democrat on the show tonight, we can get a member of congress. Of course we reach out immediately to the Podesta Group for comment, we didnt hear back from them. As if there isnt enough news today, theres latebreaking news that apparently the information that comprise the nowfamous dossier that busby printed, that information was paid for by the dnc and Hillary Clinton president ial campaign. Im not even sure how to respond to this. It striking, that dossier, even as it appeared at the time, was pretty widely recognized even among media unsympathetic to donald trump as curlers and a lot of it was demonstrably false. This is a pretty shabby piece of business here and if it turns out that, as we now believe, that it was paid for in considerable measure by the Clinton Campaign and the Democratic Party this contained within it, allegations about from collusion with the russians. That tends to soil that whole allegation even further. The tide may be no turning in all this in political terms, and one might also open journalistic terms. Tucker kind of brazen though. One of your chief fundraisers and the guy whos running your campaign is in effect working with Paul Manafort, its a little brazen for you to run around claiming that Paul Manafort when he worked for donald trump was working with the russians, no . What does it take to clean Something Like that . Brazen might be the right word. One hardly knows what to say about that, but it certainly reveals another side of the story that may be bigger and more important than these allegations, which have so far remained virtually without evidence. The allegations of collusion between the Trump Campaign itself and the president , the man who is now president , and the russians, is virtually nonexistent. After all these months. Now we hear about all this other stuff. As i suggest tucker, the tide may now be turning on all of this and not in a way the democrats are going to enjoy. Tucker i would be concerned if i were the podestas. Thank you very much for that. Appreciate it. You bet. Tucker up next, for the reaction to the allegations which is brought you from a form to my former member of president obamas campaign team. Thats next. Tucker we have ample reason to believe the uranium one story is actual news related to a wide ranging effort by russia to affect american policy. According to Hillary Clinton its just old news. Its the same baloney theyve been peddling for years and theres been no credible evidence that anyone, in fact it has been debunked repeatedly. And it will continue to be debunked. Trump and his allies, including fox news, are really experts at distraction and diversion. Tucker former obama Regional Campaign direction, thanks for coming on. Thank you, anytime. Tucker we now have a sourcing, we spoke to a couple hours ago, saying that a representative from the Clinton Foundation had a meeting at the Podesta Group founded, as you know, by john and tony podesta here in washington. Sort of locus of democratic politics. If the Clinton Foundation person said we need to do what we can to help the uranium one. And thats the group was Board Members gave over 100 million to the Clinton Family foundation. Thats not fake news, thats real. Whats the innocent explanation for that . That we were seeking to reset our relationship with russia and get the kremlin on board with the iran nuclear deal. I do want to say, you said earlier that you couldnt get a democrat on the show, but here i am tucker a member of congress, but you are nice to come. Thats a real explanation, and i think thats probably the real explanation, they were very focused on the nuclear deal and they wanted brush on board. In exchange we give up control of 20 of our strategic uranium reserves and i dont think anybody in retrospect i think thats a wise idea, do you . Honestly i actually see this as a win. For so long this was just thrown off as a myth, it was dismissed, the president told us that this was fake news, but im glad to see that republicans are now beginning to take this seriously, that russian is seeking to destabilize our democracy. I dont see this as a partisan issue, whatever it takes to the stable side of our democracy. Tucker it turns out to be a democratic issue because Paul Manafort was working on behalf of russian interests with the Podesta Group. Paul manafort, the former chairman of Trumps Campaign was working with the Podesta Group founded by the chairman of hillarys campaign to influence the Obama Administration and Hillary Clintons state department. The kind of changes the story line a little bit, wouldnt you say . I think Robert Mueller will leave no stone unturned. Tucker i want to know what you say about that. Americans want to know exactly whats going on. They dont care about the policy partakes. They want to know what russia is doing to destabilize our democracy. Tucker let me agree with you and say, however, that what we have just discovered contravenes everything that democrats have been saying for the last 11 months, it turns out the only information that i verified is that the russians were attempting to influence the Obama Administration and the Hillary Clintons state department and they got pretty far in that effort with the help of Paul Manafort. Thats not shocking to you . Nothing shocks me when it comes to russia. I want to say that one thing with this recent story about the Podesta Group is that we have got to make some gains here, some improvements to the foreign agents registration act, because its very lax. It was that with general flynn and i really think i would not be surprised if theres a problem here. Im glad that mueller its not just a partisan investigation. Hes leaving no stone unturned. I think her name will be cleared. Tucker why would you be confident that when we just discovered that one of her eighth at the state department was hired by tony podesta, one of her biggest fundraisers to lobby her on behalf of russian, apparently. Thats what our source told us. How does that exculpate or . That seems to incriminate her to me. I think thats a stretch. 145, i know that that was debunked. I saw that when you boil it down it was more like 4 million. I want to say that one thing that is being left out of this narrative, one thing that is being left out of this narrative is that russia cant export this uranium outside of the United States. Its not like they can do just whatever they want with it, they were

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