And from there, they can go anywhere in this country just like millions and millions before them. If you are wondering why america is nothing like the country you grew up in, this is why. Anyone in power, will they do anything to protect them this time or will they sit back . Over the weekend, earlier today, the president co sent a series of tweets that seems to reflect frustration. Act now, congress, our country is being stolen. To that official washington scoffed. How dare the leader of ourd. Country have the right to determine who comes here. What are greatest. Here is a former obama political appointee who now poses as a journalist over at cnn. Watch. As often happens with issues like this, we enter a fact free zone. Youve gotis to factcheck the president on this. First of all, you heard that fox newsan predicate, an army o it is a caravan. The president tweeted there are caravans, as if there are multiple groups of people storming the border. That is not true. It is one group. Tucker just a group of folks seeking asylum while pop a grant from the obama people pretended they were reporters. Shut up, america. You have no right to complain. That is cnns view, which means as the left view them as well. Do voters agree . Really think we have a moral obligation to admit every Single Person from around the world anytime who wantsim to come you . Feed, house, educate them at our expense as our own middleclass dies . May be voters to think that. I guess well find out in the midterm elections. This will help to find those election. Jessica vaughns director of policy of studies, rather, at the study for immigration studies. Jessica, thank you for coming on. When the obama guy at cnn describes them as a group of folks seeking asylum, where does that leave the United States . Does that mean we cant do nothing about this . If they are seeking asylum, what they should be doing is taking it in the first safe country that they come to, which is mexico in this case. But that is not what this is. This is a political stunt designedha to challenge the United States and particularly the trump administration. This is organized by activists. Its a walkathon for open borders. They know exactly what they are doing. They recruited these people to join this group, making their way to the United States. Its definitely a Public Relations stunt. Its a challenge to our sovereignty and the president needs to meet this challenge and not just carry on the way the Obama Administration did and welcome to them end. We dont need to accept their asylum applications. Heck, they are being trained on how to commit asylum fraud. Tucker this is a thousand people. Why would it be 100,000 or 300,000 people . The whole population of salvador . For twothirds they dont already live there . At some point that is going to happen because populations in poor countries are exploding. What exactly is our recourse when it does happen . What do we do to prevent that from happening exactly . That is why we have to prevented from happening now. There is a reason this has been building to this point since the Obama Administration essentially asylum and rules on since friendly judges stepped in detain kids. Cant they can be used as deportation shields. One thing we could do is prevent them from getting to the United States and do as we have done in thee past and tell mexio we want toil come in and head ts off before they get our borders. We have a lot of leverage with mexico, particularly on migration issues. Its not their job to control our border. We can make it in their interest to help us prevent things like thiss from happening because, lets face it, mexico gets a lot more out of our bilateral migration relationship than we do. We need to use that to leverage, may be kind of tired into nafta if we have to. But we dont need to just sit back and stand by while people take advantage of our lack of a secure border. Tucker 60,000 americans died last year because of drug ods and most of them came from mexico. They are affecting the movement of these people here. Would it be possible to send the military to our border . Why is this not a hostile act against our country . It is. It certainly should be taken that way. We could invoke emergency declare this is a immigration emergency that requires extraordinary measures. The federal government has a plan for how to deal with a mass migration emergency. Reasonable for when the haitians boat people came. We sent the postcard coast guard out to intercept them. There are tools and authorities of the president has that can be brought to bear here, perhaps even work with the state of texas, depending on where they decide to try to make landfall in the United States. We can move money around. There are authorities, we can take advantage of. We can use our leverage with mexico. Ge we dont have to sit back and wait for them to arrive. Tucker someone better be thinking this through right now. Its imminent. Jessica, thank you. Glad to be with you. Tucker and a of border angels joins us tonight. Thanks for coming on. I understand that you are for more immigration into the country. I cant imagine you would support people walking across mexico and just showing up expecting to be let in. If that were to happen a lot, we would no longer be a country. What should we do with these people . Mexico is not a hostile nation like you mentioned earlier. Tucker of course it is. Forget it isnt. The fact that these people are coming from Central America is the same thing that has been going on since reagan interfered in the Central American policies of the late 70s end 80s. These are people escaping violence, escaping hunger. They are looking for refuge and they are trying to give much of the country. When you have a Border Patrol spokesman like chris harris encouraging them to come, telling them, show up at the border andnd say asylum when you get in, thats a lie. Thats not the way it works. It causes these people to flee. They are crossing, they think they will be able to get in. Most will not be getting in. Tucker a im not really sure why you would feel an obligation to defend the government of mexico, which is abetting illegal immigration into our country, which b has been literallyy for years, trained people especially with documents that we have on how to get into those country illegally. I dont know why you would be flocking for them . I dont know what its in for you. Lets stop lying about it. Mexico could stop it right now. Its a long way from honduras to tijuana. They could stop this but they are not. This is an act of hostility. The thing is we allow free people to travel within the country as a lot of countries do in the world. I will defend mexico because you are lying. Show me a document or the Mexican Government is training people, like you just said, to cross into the United States . The Mexican Government isnt doing that. Are there people doing that . There may be. Tucker really . [laughs] im sorry. I win with superior knowledge. Superior arrogance. I know youre from san diego tucker the Mexican Government has given instructions to people. Ive seen them with my own eyes, on how to get across the border. Show the video of that. Tucker this group of people could be stopped anytime by the Mexican Government, which again you feel the need to make policies for, but they defend people all the time in their country from Central America, as you know. They are not detaining these people because they say they are going del norte , but why should we accept them here . Most undocumented people go elsewhere. They have no desire to come here. Of the 200,000 undocumented people in the world today, the United States has 11 million. And that floww has shifted tucker you are missing it. Why should we pick any . Theres a lot of people come here legally. Theres no way for these people to come here legally. The United States interfering in the countries, the demand for the drugs, invading a Sovereign Land like a wreck from interfering in the civil wars of Central America, that causes people to flee. Tucker our sins are the reason you hate america so if you are saying. Its interesting. You are blaming america for illegal immigration into america. Central america as part of america. Mexico is part of the america. Tucker United States as a separate country that is not the same as honduras. Onethird of all honduran el san citizens live here. Stop taking their Natural Resources, stop invading the Sovereign Lands. Donald trump come about guy is an embarrassment to the world. He sayss o they are coming for daca. Daca ended people had to have been here by 2012. Donald trump doesnt know what hes talking about. Tucker im not asking your opinions on trump. Im not interested. Hold on. The policies that affect all of us as americans, and you are saying that hondurans have a right to come here because we take the Natural Resources of honduras is somehow . Can you be a lot more specific . Absolutely. The invasion of the United States of Sovereign Lands, whether it was the interference in south america with the Reagan Administration tucker what did we do with honduras . Have you heard of iran contra . The United States is the number one consumer of Natural Resources from other countries . Tucker and honduras . These people are coming here to punish us from bad things that we did in honduras. Are you are representative of people on the left . Is everyone this dumb . B . What are you talking about . We may take from Sovereign Lands, they should be a more welcoming nation and they are a. Tucker i just want to have a rational conversation. Yeah, we should have a good conversation. 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They picked a new target. Any statue that defense anybody in power. In narcotic, california, a statue of William Mckinley is going to be torn down on the grounds that he pursued policies harmful to native americans. Of course he did. So did abraham lincoln. So we await lincolns monuments dynamiting, not really. You never know. A member of the city Council Joins us tonight. E paul, thanks for coming on. You are welcome. Tucker im not for tearing statues down without a flood but of all statues you could tear down, why mckinley . Is the only one we got. Tucker [laughs] okay. Good answer. But here you have a guy who joined the union army at 18 to fight the confederacy, spent years in battle. I dont think his reputation as a particular cruel guy. He himself was a victim of gun violence, as you know. Why are you picking on him . I think if you look at all the stuff about him, you just mentioned a couple of things. There is tons of other stuff about this guy. When you take the totality of everything that he was responsible for and what happened during his presidency, you look at it and you go, okay, positive, negative. If today i was out for that statue is a city councilman, i would say, no thank you. Basically, im correcting 112yearold error of judgment. Tucker i dont know if that is your place. You didnt put the statue ther. Are you having a townwide vote on this . Heres whats happening. The city council, 112 years or so ago, decided to put it there, and the city council has the power to remove it. If indeed citizens dont want that to happen, we have a referendum and initiatives here in california that happens constantly and so it can be simply, a thousand signatures, and be on the ballot. Tucker why dont you let them vote anyway . I just wonder how you would feel, lets say there is a statue of you, i hope there never is but lets say there was, how would you like to be assessed on every bad thing you did . Im sure youve done good things. Im positive youve drawn some bad things, i can tell. How would you like it if people said, we got to tear the statue down . Shouldnt we be more forgiving amount of people . Let me say this. I dont think any human being deserves a statue. We are all equals. I think it is a mistake to put statues up fort humans. Statue of liberty, it works because that is not a human. As a replica. Or a stylized person. When you put up a human, you are always going to have a problem, no matter what human, whether its mussolini or whoever. Its a problem. Tucker i have to say, iob wasnt expecting you to say that. You are winning me over a little bit of that argument because i think thats actually true. We shouldnt be worshiping politicians, even the good ones are not that good. I kind of agree. Im sure we dont agree on anything other than that. I dont think thats a dumb point at all. Kind of an islamic point but still a good point. Since his dad she upp there, and no one living made the decision to put it there, you have to make an affirmative decision to take it down. By doing that, arent you reallv saying, you know, his sins outweigh the good things that he did . He was a good president. He fought against slavery. Can we ask anymore . By the way, he was a victim of gun violence. Shouldnt that giveen him a pas . You know, i totally see the good points and i see the bad points and i come as an elected official, a representative of the people in the town, i have to say, go deep inside and look at what would i do if i was faced with this any other time. 13 years ago, it came before us before. We didnt have a majority, so it stayed. This time, 13 years later, came up again, we had a majority, and so areso a voted for it to leav. Tucker have you guys i loved all the problems in your town other than this . Is it literally a utopia . Hey, look, nobody solves all the problems. Tucker but you have no crimeso and nobody is ever doube parked . No ones ever got divorced . You know what i mean . No one chooses microwave burritos over brussel sprouts. Ru youve got it all figured out so in your spare time, you will tear down the mckinley statue. Is that is what is going on . s big an opinion. As a city councilman, i have to cover every thing. This is just one item. I dont like wasting a lot of time on it. It has come to us before. It came before i even lived her here. This issue. Its like, okay. Lets stop wasting time on it. Im willing to take the freight. I will make the decision to make that motion to move that thing so that we can be done with it and move on and to not waste anymore time. So, yeah, i really dont like wasting time about it. Tucker okay. I disagree with you but i do think you make a good point about not worshiping people. Im with you on that. Councilman, thank you. Youre welcome. Thanks for having me. Tucker Jason Nichols is professor at the university of maryland and he joins us tonight. Professor, thanks a lot for coming on. Thank you. Tucker unless you agree with the professor i just talked to who, i actually think makes a good point, we should and ought to be naming things after people especially living politicians, whether its kennedy, killed a woman, robert byrd, any of these politicians should not be allowed to name things after them. I agree with that. But mckinley . Really . Why is he so sinful . If you look at his history, he did some things in terms of what he did with the indigenous people,ge taking their land, giving it to white settlers. Breaking up their autonomy. So i think he has some issues in his past. At the same time, i think its important for us, and its interesting, this discussion, i think im going to play the republican here. And say that you had a city council, a local group, who has made a decision for their community, that is what they are elected to do. And yet we come when you here in our shirts and ties in washington will sit here and told him that what they did was wrong and question them. Tucker i feel totally empowered to pass judgment on decisions that governments make. Local government that you have no tucker im allowed to hav