Whatever you think of donald trump, hes admitting this and trying to fix it. For once americans are coming home from the middle east rather than staying forever and we ought to be celebrating that. Across the country, people are. But in washington, people are apoplectic. They are telling us we arent allowed to leave syria. Its immoral, they say. Its a betrayal. Not a betrayal of americans, that wouldnt be a problem here in washington. It happens here every day. No, its much worse than that. Its a betrayal of the ethnic group in the mountainous parts of southwest asia called the kurds. What exactly do these people know on tv know about kurds . Nothing, really. Itd be shopping if anybody at msnbc had ever met a kurd. Suddenly everyone today everyones washington teams outrage on their behalf. It psychotic. Essentially you can go to the slaughter at the hands of turkey. I wash my hands of it. What is the message to abandoning the syrian kurds who fought so valiantly for the u. S u. S. . It seems the u. S. Is hanging them out to dry. Yet again the kurds are being betrayed by those who help them. I just wonder where she was credibility in the region with both its friends and its adversaries after abandoning the kurds again . Tucker would love to tell you its just the lefty hacks on the sea we not even close, a ton of republicans on capitol hill made exactly the same point. Mitt romney did, ben sasse of nebraska, even Mitch Mcconnell the Senate Majority leader. All of them seem far anger of the prospect of leaving syria than they ever do about illegal immigration or americans dying of fentanyl o. D. Es. Some of them cited Vladimir Putin as if it were somehow the 1982 again and brush with the threat to russian went completely bonkers, wilder than they usually are. Former bush speechwriter david frum suggested, President Trump must be paying off turkey for covering up Jamal Khashoggis murder in istanbul. Provided no evidence this was true but no one in washington asked for any evidence. They were too busy nodding along in agreement. Watch senator Lindsey Graham get so worked up by the idea of americans leaving a forward war zone, one thing thats never allowed, that he forgets to make any sense at all. If i didnt see Donald Trumps name on the tweet, i thought it would be obamas rationale for getting out of the rock the iraq. This is whats going to happen. Its going to lead to isiss reemergence. The kurds will now align with a side because have nobody to count on because weve abandoned them. Tucker whatever politicians know exactly whats going to happen, be sure not to bet on it. More deeply, think about it a second. Assad, isis, and iran for that matter run different sides of the conflict. How can an american withdrawal be a win for both sides. He turned down her offer to come tonight so we can only guess. Nikki haley strongly agrees with graham after resigning as u. N. Ambassador, haley took a job on the board of boeing, the airplane manufacturer. Turkey and the estimate back out of the deal with boeing to buy jets for turkey airlines. Haley tweeted this, we must always have the backs of our allies if we expect them to have our back. The kurds were instrumental in our successful fight against isis in syria. Leaving them to die is a big mistake. Turkeyisnotourfriend. Turkey is not our friend . Thats a surprise of us who have been paying attention because it was barely a year ago that official washington i mean, everybody was outrage savaging the president for the crime of undermining nato. The atlantic for one example ran this headline. Trumps biggest gift to putin is questioning nato. It was a sin. People like nikki haley strongly agreed with that. Here the thing, kurds are not part of nato because there is no turkestan turkestan. That means we are bound by treaty to defend the kurds they are attacked. Turkey is hosting about 50 American Nuclear weapons. Does that make turkey our friend . Or our enemy . Washington cant decide. The only point that everyone here can agree on is that in the interest of foreigners, they are far more important than our own interests. It is immoral, they are telling us, to look out for their own people, but it is virtuous to suffer for others, particular for those who hate us. Hundreds of thousands of americans die from drugs, manufactured by our enemies abroad. Mexico, and china, how do our leaders respond . They shrugged. He couldnt care less. They do nothing. Turkey threatens to invade northern syria, a place not one in a thousand americans find on a map guess what that is excellent at the historic crisis and Lindsey Graham will stand for it what you are looking at is a set of priorities so my lessons are distorted there is no in fact fixing them. In the end may be the obvious one, relocate the kurds to youngstown, ohio. Only then will washington finally care. Doug mcgregor is a retired u. S. Army colonel arthur of the book margin of victory in the wises voice on Foreign Policy we know on nights like this. What do you make of the preponderance response to the president s announcement . The swab is very disturbed because the president has done something i have not witnessed in the last 30 years. Hes actually injecting strategy hes turned to mr. Erdogan for a serious part of time dash isis turned out to be a frankensteins monster that needed to be brought under control. Now he wants to resettle sunni arab refugees in northwest syria and create a security zone for turkish interest. Hes also simultaneously told mr. Erdogan you can do this but you are now responsible for dealing with isis if isis rears its head. If he comes back, its your problem. This is a very important point. Has shifted the burden responsibility for something thats clearly regional, clearly goes back to turkey, to mr. Erdogan. At the same time, russia has promised to maintain the territorial integrity of syria, come what may. How is russia going to deal with mr. Erdogan who decided to carve out a piece of syria for his own purposes . And we have iran. Iran wants to remain its connectivity to lebanon and its shiite allies. Iran now is going to be unable, or at least will find it far, far more difficult to connect with lebanon. The point is the president has checkmated all the key players in the region in syria. Now they must confront each other for a change. Tucker leaving out a key point of the one ive been hearing all day long on a loop on television which is really our only allies in the world, the kurds of syria. What about them . Everybody on television basically spends 12 hours today in a tribute to the syrian kurd kurds. Before we arrived, the maoist communist kurds in northern syria, who have a long history and close relationship with moscow as a result, were always interested and allying themselves with anyone that would further their cause when their cause involves independence for themselves in syria and also attacks against the turks. Whom they regard as enemies. In our absence, the kurds now have to make a decision. Do we make peace with damascus, which is what the russians have told them to do, which is what we have privately told them to do, which is what the Syrian Government would like them to do . Or do the kurds decide to take on the turks independently . Id rather think the syrian kurds will decide probably in their interests decide with damascus. So once we pull out, i think well see that happening. But here is something else, israel benefits from this because iran is now at loggerheads with turkey. Iran is interested in connecting to has the law. The russians have no interest earning syria as a platform for attack against israel, so the russians and iranians who are checkmated by the turks, all these people have to deal with the reality that israel and the United States are benefiting from our withdrawal. Tucker thats not at all what nikki haley said in her tweet but i think you make a persuasive case and i think i believe you. Colonel, great to see you tonight. David the ferry is an attorney and former State Government official who spent a lot of time in the region. David, i know you are a big believer in multinational organizations, particularly in nato. You defended it on this program in fact. Turkey is one of our nato allies, our sacred nato allies. Whose defense we are not obligated to provide if necessary, but you are telling us that we need to pick the side of turkeys enemy. How does that work . Just because turkey is a member of nato doesnt mean its always doing the things that we want the , the u. S. Wants to borrow what nato wants. Its doing the opposite of what nato wants, its been doing that for a long time. If you watch with happening with turkey, its now accepting as 300 rockets from russia. This is something the u. S. Did not want to add nato did not want tucker wait a second so you are saying that our job is to arm, with weapons of wars, the democrats described them, the opponent, the moral opponent of our nato ally. If turkey is attacked, we are obligated under the treaty to defend turkey . But turkey is not being attacked. Tucker turkey is absolutely in the state of complex with the kurds. Not the stf. The stf is a force of moderate kurds and arabs formed in syria informed with help in part of the u. S. That u. S. Special forces are fighting alongside with against isis. We would not have defeated isis in syria without the help of tucker any u. S. Soldier has served in syria will tell you that. Wait, hold on im asking you tucker i think a lot of what you are saying is open to debate. For sure. But whats not open to debate is our nato ally we are supposed to revere our nato allies from estonia on down including turkey things that the kurds we are army or its opponents. How does this nato thing work . Remember, trump is evil because he questioned nato. Just because you are employing false logic here. Just because we are part of an alliance doesnt mean we agree with everything they do. They do lots of things we dont agree with. Tucker if the kurds attack a stumble, we have to defend his temple the kurds are not going to attack istanbul. Tucker there have been a lot of terror attacks committed by kurds including some which we have armed. Why are we bound to pick turkeys aside when kurds engage in terrorism, we do take their side. Tucker we take the kurds aside the p kk, the kurdish separatist group in eastern turkey has engaged in terrorism, weve labeled them a terrorist organization. But the sdf is not a terrorist organization. They are fighting aside our special forces. Any special forces whos been in the trenches will tell you that you need to talk to them. Im sorry, they dont get to make our policy. Civilian control of the territory will make military, thank god. The president gets to set our strategy, and they acknowledge that there is no vital right after a call with president erdogan, he had made no attempt tucker they made this point for three years made no attempt to make the point that he was directly influenced by erdogan against the advice of every single senior u. S. Military official. Tucker the ones who kept us there fox news has kept reported that who do you trust, erdogan tucker i tell you who i dont trust, the people who kept us in afghanistan for 18 years. They should be ashamed, some should be in jail. David, thanks. The second anonymous whistleblower making allegations about the president s phone call with ukraine, to sort out what this is, foxs chief correspondent Catherine Herridge joins us. Fox news and confirm that one day after the president s phone call with the ukrainian leader, the first whistleblower wrote a two page single spaced memo to themselves documenting secondhand information from a white house official, the following is a record of a conversation i had this afternoon with a white house official about the telephone call yesterday morning between President Trump and ukrainian president spiel zelensky. Using dramatic tone contrasting with the publicly released transcript for the white house, the whistleblower describes the call as crazy, frightening, completely lacking in substance relating to National Security and theres a clear transcript of the call. Some called it a summary or notes, but in the memo the first whistleblower suggests it is a complete record that the Standard Practice the white house situation room to produce a word for word transcript that memorializes the call. After questions raised last week about the first whistleblowers contact with stafford democratic adam schiff before the complaint was officially called, confirm that second whistleblower does possess firsthand knowledge of certain information. No legal requirement for any whistleblower to have such knowledge, the law only requires a reasonable belief. Fox news asked a legal team but they have not responded to our recent questions about their clients Democratic Political connections. Tucker . Tucker i hope they do. Me too. Tucker thank you so much. Washington is panicking over the president s latest effort to create a rational Foreign Policy, but the impeachment inquiry trumps forward. You heard endlessly on cable news, its unprecedented the president would seek political gain from a conversation with a foreign leader. Turns out it happened before. Back in 2000, we can report, president bill clinton had a conversation with tony blair of the u. K. And asked him directly a dispute into American Airways with british carriers. The president was much more direct in his conversation with the ukrainian leader. This was bill clinton back then and im quoting, in a political season, it would be big over here to get this open sore resolved. If you could have somebody take a look at it. Tony blair responded that he would. Is this a big deal . Not really. Is it nakedly political . Is in an effort to use a foreign country to influence the outcome of an election in the president ial year . Yes, it is. Obviously. It didnt take long for us to find that transcript. We only had to dig through old clinton transcript for about 15 minutes. They are all caps, all online by the way. Probably a lot more examples and if we find them well bring them to you. But the point is anybody commenting on this, anybody staring at the screen and countless people with this decision this is never happened before, its outrageou none of them took the time to check. Whatever they are telling you that something is without precedent, you can be certain that it happens every day here. Washington is, of course, totally addicted to impeachment over the ukraine scandal. On msnbc, a contributor spun a wild fantasy where in fact in the end, nancy pelosi could become president. You could impeach pence first. The problem is donald trump has to name his replacement. But i think that may be a deal could be struck where he was told that if you dont make a replacement that nancy pelosi does become president , you will be impeached and convicted. You need to make this replacement so that the proper Party Remains in power. Tucker who are these people . I mean, look at a plea to tv bookers, before you put someone on the air, people are watching this people and treadmills across the country are listening. Try to make sure the person you have on the screen knows what he or she is talking about, is kind of credible, and saying the excellent how about that as a baseline requirement . This is fantasy, as you know. Its outrunning reality. The entire ukraine site that is starting to resemble another fake scandal, the character assassination of Justice Brett kavanaugh. So, peter, weve been at this for two weeks, the ukraine story. I dont think of you as a specially partisan. Whats your assessment . Do we know more now than we did two weeks ago and enough to justify impeachment . You start to think this is a real story or no . No, its not. The first complaint surfaced the phone call, the full transcript is available online. Anybody can read it and its clearly not crazy or frightening, it clearly doesnt represent any kind of demand for political quid pro quo and anything along those lines. What weve seen is clever teeing up of information and kind of a threeway pitch and toss between the democrats, the media, and whats going on with the socalled whistleblower. There is a second whistleblower that we are led to believe is somehow adding to the narrative, but i think what is emerging is that the second whistleblower is actually the source for the first whistleblower, which means its all the same thing. This is different than in the cavanagh case where they sent Michael Avenatti to find additional victims wherever he could. In his case, there are other lawyers who took time off to go on twitter and play out their second whistleblower. In fact, hes simply the source for the first whistleblower. This is an old trick. Its called a feedback loop. What you do is you set up one of your sources to back up another source and you make it appear that your initial source is more credible by feeding information into the loop. Thats what seems to be going on here. They are repurposed seeing a witness as a second whistleblower. Tucker it does have the hallmark of that. Thank you for pointing i was trying to think about while watching this, we have the transcripts are all of this is superfluous. Its all moot. Tucker and i was thinking, what does this remind me of. It is a feedback loop Elizabeth Warren spend years lying about her ethnicity in order to scam the affirmative action system, and another lie about her early life has been exposed. Reminiscent of the first. Our lisa boothe investigates this after the break. Plus mark steyn is here tonight. We will be right back. What are you doing back there, junior . Since were obviously lost, im rescheduling my Xfinity Customer Service appointment. Ah, relax. I got this. 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